Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Dyno]

That's actually a quite explanation in-universe.

[vegitot]

very,very good art. Freeza's leg and Goku's had are incredible.

You wouldn't even notice those problems in animation. It's just a few instances of not looking great when paused.

Now this...this is animation that looks bad in motion and paused:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awSlNF0uZ4U

His pain would be greater than ours, given what the animation did to his face...

That's not bad animation its drawn deliberately like that.
you want to see a bad animation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U3QP8cj0Xk we have full episodes of them

Compare TV series to Movie?
Let's compare the animation of RoF to Spirited Away one. That's fair

[vegitot]

Ok correct me if I'm wrong here but from what I understand Golden Freeza gives Goku a hard time before his stamina runs low right?

The power increase from that golden form is impressive if it allows Freeza, who could barely keep up with normal Goku in his fourth form, to have the edge over a god powered super saiyan.

Just 4 months.

[Helios518]

You see, what's happening in those shots is that they are moving with so much force that the fabric of space-time is being distorted around them causing them to appear that way

You should win an award for this because that explanation is great.

[Lord Frieza]

Ok correct me if I'm wrong here but from what I understand Golden Freeza gives Goku a hard time before his stamina runs low right?

The power increase from that golden form is impressive if it allows Freeza, who could barely keep up with normal Goku in his fourth form, to have the edge over a god powered super saiyan.

Just 4 months.

Yes, shame that, as always his ego got in the way.

give him a year and I bet he'd be as strong as Beerus or a super saiyan god.

[vegitot]

Will AT explain how Frieza trains in his new book?

[JulieYBM]

He said it was animation that looks bad, not is bad. The technical animation is good but it's rather clear that it really doesn't look good at all. It would only look good on a comedy and that moment is supposed to be very dramatic.

It's an abstract depiction of the character's twisted, ugly logic. It's also the only three seconds of the episode that look that way right dab in the middle of a the six and a half minute section Yamashita Shingo animated entirely himself. Suffice it to say there's actual thought placed into the cut. But hey, let's ignore people the thought process behind decisions so we can all focus on depthless arguments that nobody has to put effort into making!

[Duo]

I hate the general focus on Battle Powers that's been going on, but it sure feels like a stretch to see first stage Freeza taking down a Super Saiyan. If Freeza trained as much as Goku, he would be ten times stronger than Beerus in just a few years. None of that will impact my enjoying the film much, it just seems peculiar Freeza could have such overwhelmingly insane potential.

[Doctor.]

If Freeza trained as much as Goku, he would be ten times stronger than Beerus in just a few years.

I doubt that. To me it seems just like that Freeza managed to release all of his hidden potential in 4 months and no matter the amount of training he'll do in the future, he'll never get any stronger (unless he unlocks new transformations). My main complaint relies on the fact that it takes him 4 months to release it all.

[sintzu]

Ok correct me if I'm wrong here but from what I understand Golden Freeza gives Goku a hard time before his stamina runs low right?

Someone who saw it said that but I don't know how reliable he is.

[rereboy]

It's an abstract depiction of the character's twisted, ugly logic. It's also the only three seconds of the episode that look that way right dab in the middle of a the six and a half minute section Yamashita Shingo animated entirely himself. Suffice it to say there's actual thought placed into the cut. But hey, let's ignore people the thought process behind decisions so we can all focus on depthless arguments that nobody has to put effort into making!

- The fact that the whole episode looks similar to that is not a positive thing to me, not did I state that is was just that segment that looked like that.

- Its perfectly fine if you disagree with me that it looks bad, because this is all subjective, ultimately. To me it clearly looks bad and is unfitting for the series as a whole and for that particular segment. I'm sure that they had a defined idea going for that look but that doesn't really change things since the fact that they didn't randomly choose this look doesn't make me like the look or makes me think it's fitting for the series or the segment... it just tells me that their idea didn't work for me and that's it.

- I really don't care who was involved in the project. You constantly name the artists behind the episodes, movies and whatnot but I really don't care about that at all, nor do I see why anyone should. The episode could have the greatest artists ever involved in it or the most unknown artists ever and I would just pay attention to how the product is, not the names behind it. Having great names behind me doesn't help me if I don't like the product.

[CashmanX]

I hate the general focus on Battle Powers that's been going on, but it sure feels like a stretch to see first stage Freeza taking down a Super Saiyan. If Freeza trained as much as Goku, he would be ten times stronger than Beerus in just a few years. None of that will impact my enjoying the film much, it just seems peculiar Freeza could have such overwhelmingly insane potential.

Maybe it would have been easier to swallow it Freeza had been revived with the second wish that Pilaf and co. didn't get a year before Battle of Gods? That way he'd have two years to train instead of four months.

At the same time though, he supposedly was born with a BP of a Super Saiyan....

[Noah]

Even though, not even a single dubbed trailer yet.

This marketing is surely a mess. How I miss Movie 14's one.

Why you call BoG, Movie 14? lol

It's not like BoG and RoF are in the same level as the other DBZ movies

I'd also like Gohan to step up and play a big role next time too.

If I were you I won't even dream with something like that, Gohan is a weakling now... Once the strongest warrior in universe till Boo Arc End now he is below Bojack power level and can't even use SSJ2 or his "Mystic" form anymore.

Will AT explain how Freeza trains in his new book?

I hope he will, it can't be something coming from nowhere like: "I'm recently discovered that I'm a prodigy, besides I never trained, maybe if I train for 4 months I can surpass the Super Saiyan God even though I never saw one"

And did Freeza reached his limit? That's why was only 4 months? Because if not this just make he looks idiot for not train more than that.

I really want him to explains why and how, a off-screen training justs shits in all concept. It makes us to think that villains could overwhelm easily the heroes if they weren't so lazy.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Came across this review today:

http://www.geekscape.net/geekscape-revi ... r-spoilers

They gave it 4.5/5. Seems SaiyaJedi was right people were overreacting way too much when the spoilers dropped couple weeks ago.

[Birusu16]

I hate the general focus on Battle Powers that's been going on, but it sure feels like a stretch to see first stage Freeza taking down a Super Saiyan. If Freeza trained as much as Goku, he would be ten times stronger than Beerus in just a few years. None of that will impact my enjoying the film much, it just seems peculiar Freeza could have such overwhelmingly insane potential.

I think people are missing the point here. The 4 months Freeza trained managed to release ALL of his hidden potential. He makes that clear in the first chapter of the tie-in manga where he says "If I were to train and draw out all of my hidden potential latent ability"

So yea he could continue to train and it would likely do nothing for him as he's already drawn out all of his hidden potential just the way the Elder Kai managed to draw out all of Gohan's hidden potential with his powers.

[Dyno]

Judging by all these reviews, Toriyama wasn't lying when he said he increased by a great deal the action scenes... Insert this in every movie from now on, and everyone will love.

Meanwhile, Dragon Ball Minus got that treatment.

[Lord Frieza]

This movie is gonna be awesome!

[JulieYBM]

- The fact that the whole episode looks similar to that is not a positive thing to me, not did I state that is was just that segment that looked like that.

The whole episode doesn't look similar. It's the only three seconds in the episode that employs thick outlines and a detailed, closely framed distortion of a character's form as they move in an exaggerated manner. Anyone actually watching the scene within the context of the episode will actually be able to pick up on these things, but your argument relies on cherry-picking facts and presenting them outside of the context they exist. Now you have the gumption to use this out-of-context three second cut on a forum dedicated solely to an entirely separate franchise to lord over being 'even worse' without even taking the responsibility of defending your argument.

It's really no different from a lot of the feedback from Dragon Ball Z: Fukkatsu no F being out of context, vague and ill-described with little thought placed into the manner in which ideas are expressed. There's a lot of saying of 'what' but not a whole lot of saying of 'why'.

- Its perfectly fine if you disagree with me that it looks bad, because this is all subjective, ultimately. To me it clearly looks bad and is unfitting for the series as a whole and for that particular segment. I'm sure that they had a defined idea going for that look but that doesn't really change things since the fact that they didn't randomly choose this look doesn't make me like the look or makes me think it's fitting for the series or the segment... it just tells me that their idea didn't work for me and that's it.

Why is it dozen of episodes do similar? Episodes #82, #85 #123, #131, #135, #143, #166, or any other episode since Episode #167 that uses talented staff all stick out and change their look depending on the heat moment. Dragon Ball Z did that all the time with Studio Cockpit episodes looking nothing like Shindou Pro episodes, K-Pro episodes, Douga Koubou episodes, Kino Production episodes or Seigasha episodes.

Stiff, on-model drawings do neither good animation nor good filmmaking make.

[/- I really don't care who was involved in the project. You constantly name the artists behind the episodes, movies and whatnot but I really don't care about that at all, nor do I see why anyone should. The episode could have the greatest artists ever involved in it or the most unknown artists ever and I would just pay attention to how the product is, not the names behind it. Having great names behind me doesn't help me if I don't like the product.

If you do not care about applying or being a pinch bit receptive to learning information about the subjects you wish to discuss you should not discuss them. It doesn't matter if you don't care to actually sound like you have a bare minimum grasp of knowledge about what you are discussing because my posts aren't written solely for those they might reply to. There wouldn't be any reason to writing these posts at all if they were written solely for such a petty reason.

[rereboy]

If you do not care about applying or being a pinch bit receptive to learning information about the subjects you wish to discuss you should not discuss them. It doesn't matter if you don't care to actually sound like you have a bare minimum grasp of knowledge about what you are discussing because my posts aren't written solely for those they might reply to. There wouldn't be any reason to writing these posts at all if they were written solely for such a petty reason.

The names of the artists behind the episodes is completely irrelevant to the episode looking good or not to me because even the most amazing team can create a bad product and the the worst team can create a good product. Only the actual product matters.

If you want to discuss talk about artists behind Naruto episodes, you are free to do so, but that's irrelevant to the point of my discussion.

Why is it dozen of episodes do similar? Episodes #82, #85 #123, #131, #135, #143, #166, or any other episode since Episode #167 that uses talented staff all stick out and change their look depending on the heat moment. Dragon Ball Z did that all the time with Studio Cockpit episodes looking nothing like Shindou Pro episodes, K-Pro episodes, Douga Koubou episodes, Kino Production episodes or Seigasha episodes.

Stiff, on-model drawings do neither good animation nor good filmmaking make.

I also don't care if other episodes do it or not. I judge episodes on a case by case basis. I won't suddenly think it's good just because other episodes did something similar.

And having talented staff or talented studios or not and their names continues to be irrelevant to the actual product looking good to me.

[Lord Frieza]

Came across this review today:

http://www.geekscape.net/geekscape-revi ... r-spoilers

They gave it 4.5/5. Seems SaiyaJedi was right people were overreacting way too much when the spoilers dropped couple weeks ago.

Good review overall, I would disagree with some of the complaints about the cannon of hell because this movie is based on the manga but while I can exept that Gohan has gotten weaker could it please not always be left so ambiguous. Just have a scene where he explains that because he hasent keep up with his training he lost his power up and now need to go super saiyan, thats all I ask. Fingers crossed for something like that in the extended cut (if we get one that is).

Also i am so looking forward to watching Frieza one hit KO a super saiyan, sorry Gohan but as a life long Frieza fan its something I've always wanted to see and your just in the wrong place at the wrong time.