Why is Toei reanimating Sailor Moon but not DBZ?

[Kid Buu]

I see. That reminds me of Sailor Moon Episode 140 that had Yamcha, Vegeta, and Piccolo in it but none of them interacted with each other.

Fun Fact: Toshio Furukawa is also married to Shino Kakinuma, the voice of Naru in SM and Videl in Kai.

[Chuquita]

I know the episode of Sailor Moon that Ryo Horikawa was in, who did Toshio Furukawa play in it? I didn't know he was there too.

There's already art about the shared VA's showing up on pixiv: http://touch.pixiv.net/member_illust.ph ... d=46201759

[Kid Buu]

Toshio Furukawa voiced Hawk's Eye, of Amazon Trio fame, in Sailor Moon SuperS:



But more importantly, Toshio Furukawa is Ataru Moroboshi, the infamous protagonist of Urusei Yatsura.

[Cold Skin]

I wish Toei would do for Dragon Ball's openings what they did for the Sailor Moon Crystal one: create one opening for the TV-length version and take time to create a totally different opening with yet other pictures for the full length version.
Imagine Toei making 1-minute-and-a-half animation for Dragon Soul and Like Nothing Before or After, and then 3-4 minutes of totally new animation for the full length tracks too.

Anyway, chances are that artists often prefer to appear themselves in their music videos, not let Toei make a 3-4 minutes-long anime opening for them.

[damn]

Who cares? The animation for the New Sailor Moon is fucking awful from what I've seen anyways...it's inferior to the 90s series
Looks like the typical low budget garbage Toei is used to putting out

[dbboxkaifan]

Who cares? The animation for the New Sailor Moon is fucking awful from what I've seen anyways...it's inferior to the 90s series
Looks like the typical low budget garbage Toei is used to putting out

I concur.

The eyes and legs are either too big or too large, plus trying to gain back what they did in the 90's rarely ever works out properly. Kai 2.0 while they're using the original footage it's not doing much good since they're not taking proper care of it (Kai 1.0 was definitely better though).

[damn]

Who cares? The animation for the New Sailor Moon is fucking awful from what I've seen anyways...it's inferior to the 90s series
Looks like the typical low budget garbage Toei is used to putting out

I concur.

The eyes and legs are either too big or too large, plus trying to gain back what they did in the 90's rarely ever works out properly. Kai 2.0 while they're using the original footage it's not doing much good since they're not taking proper care of it (Kai 1.0 was definitely better though).

That's the case for majority of anime now tho
The whole thing looks really soft too like 99% of anime nowadays
Unless it's a production by Madhouse,I.G Production or something it's not going to look that good(and even Madhouse has it's duds depending on the show)

Ever since the switch to Digital Animation the Anime Industry has put out a lot of cheap badly drawn anime...though that is not news(and the popular moe art-style 95% of anime now use sucks too imo)
I mean even though in the 90s Anime still had limited animation(repeated animations and what not) at least they were done using cels then so they at least looked easy on the eyes(Cuz the colors didn't look so bad since they were colored by hand)

[JulieYBM]

Budgets are bigger now than they were in the 1990s. Costs have gone up thanks to inflation and animators being paid more. Toei Animation simply does not produce high-quality works for Otaku, outside of Kyou-sougiga. It is also silly to say numerous 'cheap' and poorly drawn cartoons are being put out today when this has always been the case. The majority of anything is never great, that's how we define greatness in the first place! You can't have an elite if you do not have series that are not elite.

Thanks to the popularity of Shin Seiki Evangelion and Cowboy Bebop in Japan during the 1990s it has become easier to produce works for Otaku with less restrictions on content. The former created 'My Anime' (animation that would be aimed and fully financially recouped by Otaku) and the latter made it possible to air violence or themes once only available to OVAs and films. Airing animation for adults during the later hours of the night and on premium channels has made it easier to take advantage of loyal fans. Series can be produced with lavish production values and be as simple as a slice of life comedy or the violent and apocalyptic Shingeki no Kyojin. It is estimated there are some 100,000 Otaku that make late-night animation possible. Dragon Ball and Toei Animation do not take advantage of that, unfortunately. A market for charming series like Love Lab, Nisekoi and Yozakura Quartet: Hana no Uta wouldn't exist without today's climate.

[damn]

I don't know in what world you're living in but most anime nowadays are low budget crap and almost always are produced very quickly...everyone who knows shit about Animation knows this
If they really are expensive to produce(which I doubt they are) then I'm betting most of the money is going to the voice actors

Really...Anime nowadays is the Fast Food of Animation....that's the way I'd describe it
It's all about meeting the demand

And there's the fact that Digital Animation is enabling a lot of studios to make crappy shows with less work put into them which is why you see a much bigger quantity of anime nowadays resulting in lesser quality overall

Back in the days of Cel Animation not many companies could afford making a crappy show since back then it took a lot more to finish one single episode than it does today with the aid of advanced technology...resulting in lesser quantity and more quality overall

That's my take on it...and this is not limited to anime...this goes for American Cartoons nowadays too
It only makes sense if you think about it logically

[JulieYBM]

I don't know in what world you're living in but most anime nowadays are low budget crap and almost always are produced very quickly...everyone who knows shit about Animation knows this
If they really are expensive to produce(which I doubt they are) then I'm betting most of the money is going to the voice actors

The world where numerous great works are produced despite limited schedules or money.

This is how money is spent on your typical episode of a Japanese cartoon. Your average episode costs between $100,000-300,000, but Bones has been known to do series with episodes that cost $90,000 an episode. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann cost $180,000-200,000 an episode. Episodes used to cost much less before the 2000s, costing between $50,000 and $70,000 an episode. According to Animator Cindy H. Yamauchi in-between animation used to pay $0.85. She entered the industry as a part-timer during high school in the 1980s, so she is well aware of the industry.

Really...Anime nowadays is the Fast Food of Animation....that's the way I'd describe it
It's all about meeting the demand

You have just described commercial art since the inception of time.

And there's the fact that Digital Animation is enabling a lot of studios to make crappy shows with less work put into them which is why you see a much bigger quantity of anime nowadays resulting in lesser quality overall

Back in the days of Cel Animation not many companies could afford making a crappy show since back then it took a lot more to finish one single episode than it does today with the aid of advanced technology...resulting in lesser quantity and more quality overall

That's my take on it...and this is not limited to anime...this goes for American Cartoons nowadays too
It only makes sense if you think about it logically

Again, crappy shows with no effort placed into them have existed since the beginning of time. There is no point in having a conversation when it is going to be based on vague general statements that look neither at context nor a broader sample size.

Modern series are being made on the quick because production committees are careless, not because digital technologies have made things quicker. Outsourced animation drawings are still shipped by hand back to Japan for correcting, Elaborate backgrounds are still created, thought is placed into coloring and lighting should the director have talent and vision. A lot of what you are describing is merely untalented staff members headlining children's cartoons.

Studios are making many cartoons now because there is a demand for them. Studios do not provide the majority of the budget for a series, the production committee does. Animation studios make little off of a series and are essentially nothing more than production houses for the work to be created.

[Super Sonic]

Just thought earlier, over in Japan whenever anime is remade, are there comparisons to original works like there happens to be with US cartoons? And not just Sailor Moon Crystal. Know there were three different Tetsujin-28 series, and wonder if guys compared or complained with them? Don't know if that happened here as not many folks I know watched the late 90s version, or the 80s one that was released here as "The New Gigantor". As for Gigantor, know my dad watched it as a kid, but not sure if guys of my generation watched reruns on AS when they aired them or not. Know with Western cartoons, whenever there's a new Batman cartoon, someone will compare to "Batman: the Animated Series".

[kei17]

Know there were three different Tetsujin-28 series, and wonder if guys compared or complained with them? Don't know if that happened here as not many folks I know watched the late 90s version, or the 80s one that was released here as "The New Gigantor". As for Gigantor, know my dad watched it as a kid, but not sure if guys of my generation watched reruns on AS when they aired them or not. Know with Western cartoons, whenever there's a new Batman cartoon, someone will compare to "Batman: the Animated Series".

There are five different series, and only the first one follows the original manga. So, there's nothing to compare there.

[Kid Buu]

I wish Toei would do for Dragon Ball's openings what they did for the Sailor Moon Crystal one: create one opening for the TV-length version and take time to create a totally different opening with yet other pictures for the full length version.
Imagine Toei making 1-minute-and-a-half animation for Dragon Soul and Like Nothing Before or After, and then 3-4 minutes of totally new animation for the full length tracks too.

Anyway, chances are that artists often prefer to appear themselves in their music videos, not let Toei make a 3-4 minutes-long anime opening for them.

I think DBZ needs more opening themes. Cha La Head Cha La got stale by the Cell Arc.

[Super Sonic]

Know there were three different Tetsujin-28 series, and wonder if guys compared or complained with them? Don't know if that happened here as not many folks I know watched the late 90s version, or the 80s one that was released here as "The New Gigantor". As for Gigantor, know my dad watched it as a kid, but not sure if guys of my generation watched reruns on AS when they aired them or not. Know with Western cartoons, whenever there's a new Batman cartoon, someone will compare to "Batman: the Animated Series".

There are five different series, and only the first one follows the original manga. So, there's nothing to compare there.

Like I said, not too familiar with the franchise, or that it was a manga. Just barely the one my dad watched when he was a kid. And only knew of three that made it stateside.

[Kid Buu]

So I decided to check out that latest One Piece episode just for Furuya, and then I was reminded why I don't watch One Piece in the first place.

Anyway, to get to the point, I wonder if someone at that AWA convention asked Furuya about why he wasn't in Crystal or the status of Battle of Gods 2? Hopefully interviews show up on youtube soon.

[Attitudefan]

Another episode premiere, i think we can safely say, that this anime really follow manga closely. And, opening had been re-animated
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They took out Mamoru helping Usagi healing the town.

On-topic, hasn't DBZ technically been reanimated through all those new video games?

Well, Cha La had been updated and fixed up and new releases just solely use the fixed versions. Happens on first airings.

[Cold Skin]

^ I think it's nice that they update a few things here and there.
There's always little things that can be improved: adding shadows, correcting colors or shapes, correcting face details...

Of course, the best is when they do what they did with Advent Children and Battle of Gods, which is a high degree of correction including a huge amount of additionnal footage, but also correcting some shots, some plot points, etc...
But even on a smaller scale, little touch-ups are always welcome.

I think whether it's for video games or anime, there are things that they will not notice before release, they need people to point out this or that, and it's always nice when they can go back to it and correct what was missing to make the "final touch", the "final update", a refined product.
Of course, it's best if the product is refined to begin with, but I think that no matter how great a work is, there are always little things here and there that will slip by before release/airing and that will have the creators go "oh, snap, I didn't see that it would have been better that way actually". And we live in a very digital age where re-opening the game/anime original file and modifying this or that is always a possibility, so they might as well make use of that possibility.

[Kid Buu]

Last episode was good. I like that Toei is willing to alter the story, but the animation is meh and the side characters need more characterization. Should have adapted some of the short stories to flesh out the characters.

Meanwhile, I've given up on Kai all together.

[JulieYBM]

Episode #7 was mostly key animated by Toei Animation Philippines, who did a lot of work on Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans. One of the animation supervisors and key animators was Paul Ano-nuevo, who did some nice cuts of key animation for Yes! PreCure 5 Episode #12. If a new Dragon Ball series made from scratch were ever to come to fruition Toei Animation Philippines would inevitably have a hand with it. I would love to see Ano-nuevo try his hand at Dragon Ball action animation.

[Kid Buu]

Is that the early 90s Dragon Ball: Plan to Eradicate the Super Saiyans or the one from the video game a few years back?