Most memorable BS dub lines / names

[Khin]

1rst Form Freeza saying he's 530,000 times stronger Nail.

[precita]

There's one episode in Season 3 when Yamcha says, "That's whack!" on King Kai's planet.

Goddamn, ebonic slang. Granted at least it came from Yamcha rather than anyone else. I hated it when Goku said, "Yo!" a few times in the Freeza saga. What.

[ABED]

Furthermore, a matter-of-fact villain that doesn't take as much pleasure in the violence he/she spreads would be comparatively less monstrous, but no less destructive. We're not only gauging iniquity by effect alone. And if you can't see why spouting "pop goes the weasel"--upon causing someone to violently rupture--is disgustingly reprehensible, then I don't know what to tell you. The jokes aren't corny; they exemplify mood dissonance and showcase just how much of a beast he is. If I said that after blowing up your best friend, your hatred of me would most probably reach a fever pitch; bad enough that I killed him, I'm also making light of it.

You've put more care into your choice of words than they did. That was awful dialog and in no way was there to make him more reprehensible than he was. "around and around the monkey goes, if he stops, off with his nose" is most certainly cheesy. It's not about mood dissonance, it's about appealing to young American children. And yes, using that dumb line "pop goes the weasel" is reprehinsible. It takes a tense moment, and undercuts it completely. It's eyeroll worthy.

Yamcha's line "So what if i like to comb my hair a lot?" or something to that effect.

Dainty mannerisms can also be construed as simply effeminate or gender ambiguous, which is is certainly evocative of Freeza's aesthetics.
It's not the daintyness, it's the posh and erudite mannerisms. If I remember correctly, Toriyama created Freeza to be like a real estate speculator. Nothing about him is about exuding sexuality and cheesy one liners.

[Kamiccolo9]

There's one episode in Season 3 when Yamcha says, "That's whack!" on King Kai's planet.

Goddamn, ebonic slang. Granted at least it came from Yamcha rather than anyone else. I hated it when Goku said, "Yo!" a few times in the Freeza saga. What.

What's wrong with "yo?"

[ABED]

There's one episode in Season 3 when Yamcha says, "That's whack!" on King Kai's planet.

Goddamn, ebonic slang. Granted at least it came from Yamcha rather than anyone else. I hated it when Goku said, "Yo!" a few times in the Freeza saga. What.

What's wrong with "yo?"

Does yo have the same connotations in Japan as it does in the US?

[Kamiccolo9]

There's one episode in Season 3 when Yamcha says, "That's whack!" on King Kai's planet.

Goddamn, ebonic slang. Granted at least it came from Yamcha rather than anyone else. I hated it when Goku said, "Yo!" a few times in the Freeza saga. What.

What's wrong with "yo?"

Does yo have the same connotations in Japan as it does in the US?

No idea, but Goku is super casual when it comes to greeting people. "Yo" seems appropriate.

[VegettoEX]

Goku's said "Yo!" aloud in Japanese, though I think it may be exclusive to older DBZ movies. It's generally "Ossu!" (which I don't necessarily have a problem with translating as "Yo!" but I prefer "Heya!" because he does actually also literally say "Yo!" separate from "Ossu!").

[LuckyCat]

Goku said "Yo" to Burter in Episode 67 when he got behind him. It means the same thing in Japanese, it's just that it was 90s slang, which is why VegettoEX accurately associates it with the 90s movies.

[precita]

What does Guru say in the Japanese version when he's transported to Earth talking to the Nameks? I really like his dub line when he says, "Goku and Freeza are writing the final chapter in a story neither you nor your children will soon forget."

Even when I was a kid I loved that line and still do. It just seems so fitting for him to say that. What doe she say in the original? Its the first scene we see the Nameks transported on Earth.

[ABED]

Bulma's explanation about why Goku can't be resurrected after Kaio tells her that Goku is dead involves a silly analogy about eggs and a nest.

[Sandubadear]

1rst Form Freeza saying he's 530,000 times stronger Nail.

Worse is Freeza saying his power is '53,000' instead of 530k. Brazilian dub.

[Lord Exor]

Furthermore, a matter-of-fact villain that doesn't take as much pleasure in the violence he/she spreads would be comparatively less monstrous, but no less destructive. We're not only gauging iniquity by effect alone. And if you can't see why spouting "pop goes the weasel"--upon causing someone to violently rupture--is disgustingly reprehensible, then I don't know what to tell you. The jokes aren't corny; they exemplify mood dissonance and showcase just how much of a beast he is. If I said that after blowing up your best friend, your hatred of me would most probably reach a fever pitch; bad enough that I killed him, I'm also making light of it.

You've put more care into your choice of words than they did. That was awful dialog and in no way was there to make him more reprehensible than he was. "around and around the monkey goes, if he stops, off with his nose" is most certainly cheesy. It's not about mood dissonance, it's about appealing to young American children. And yes, using that dumb line "pop goes the weasel" is reprehinsible. It takes a tense moment, and undercuts it completely. It's eyeroll worthy.

Yamcha's line "So what if i like to comb my hair a lot?" or something to that effect.

Dainty mannerisms can also be construed as simply effeminate or gender ambiguous, which is is certainly evocative of Freeza's aesthetics.
It's not the daintyness, it's the posh and erudite mannerisms. If I remember correctly, Toriyama created Freeza to be like a real estate speculator. Nothing about him is about exuding sexuality and cheesy one liners.

What "posh and erudite" mannerisms are you referring to exactly? You keep citing them, but their placement and exact form seems nebulous.

You keep alluding to creator intent on both sides when posing your argument, which I feel isn't germane to the topic. First of all, we don't know what FUNimation's writers were thinking exactly when drafting those lines; second, Toriyama's vision for Frieza is immaterial here since we're talking about a reversion that's subjectively better or worse. Compare both versions on their own merits.

[Azelf89]

When it comes to memorable BS dub lines, there's this one exchange in the English dubs of the original Dragon Ball that has always stuck to me as both weird, and interesting/funny at the same time, mainly due to how it was handled later on in the show. The exchange i'm talking about is the one around the end of the 8th episode, where Chi Chi asks Goku about their marriage, but Goku misunderstands her, thinking she wants to talk about food.

In the BlT dub and Funimation's in-house dub, the exchange was changed to this:

Goku: "What's up?"
Chi Chi: "Oh, nothing. I was just wondering if you were ever gonna think about me again?"
Goku: "Yeah, I think so."
Chi Chi: "Oh my, you're so funny! *giggles*"
Goku: "Do you think you're ever going to think about me again, Chi Chi?
Chi Chi: "Oh my gosh!"

While this change is not that bad, its not that great either, as it completely takes out the original joke from the scene. Plus it kinda screws Funimation over royally later on.

In the Blue Water dub, this exchange was changed again, this time to this:

Goku: "What's wrong?"
Chi Chi: "Oh, nothing. I was just wondering if you were ever gonna come see me again?"
Goku: "Well, why wouldn't I?"
Chi Chi: "Oh Goku, you're so sweet! *giggles*"
Goku: "Thanks, and you know what? I think you're pretty cool! For a girl I mean."
Chi Chi: "Oh my gosh!"

Ugh, I really hate that last line from Goku. It's one of those lines where you KNOW an adult wrote this script, as I NEVER heard any kid say something like this in real life.

However, that's not the most interesting part. Its actually what happens during the Goku vs. Chi Chi fight during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arc when they flashback to that exchange that catches my attention the most. Now in the Funimation dub, they decided to rerecord that scene using the same lines, but like I said before, this sorta screws Funi over majorly. This is because their version of the scene makes NO mention of any marriage promise at all, and thus makes the whole thing make no sense in context.

The Blue Water dub, on the other hand, decides to take a more interesting approach, and actually rewrite most of the lines from that scene, making it much more closer to the original Japanese dialogue:

Chi Chi: "Bye Goku. When i'm old enough to be a bride, I hope you'll think about coming to see me."
Goku: "Well, why wouldn't I?"
Chi Chi: "Oh! *giggles* You're making me blush!"
Goku: "I'd be glad to help you out. It can't be that hard to make you a bride."
Chi Chi: *increasingly embarrassed*

Now that's much better. In fact, I find most of the dialogue from the Goku vs. Chi Chi fight to be handled a lot better in the Blue Water dub. The only thing that I thought the Funimation dub did right was keeping the line from Goku where he explains that he actually thought that Chi Chi was talking about food this entire time, whereas the Blue Water dub changed it to him asking to clarify that living together with a bride meant that Chi Chi wanted them to get married. Oh well, you can't win them all I guess.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Huh...I somehow never noticed that the mention of getting married is completely removed in FUNi's dub of that scene. At least, right there it is...doesn't the Ox King still mention it somewhere? I think?

But yeah, I've loathed their handling of the 23rd Budokai scene - or at least the 'I might not remember, but my heart does' bit - ever since I first saw it. It's so out of character that it doesn't even fit with the way FUNi handled Goku back then or at any other point in time. It's just...maddeningly bizarre. I'm all for sweet moments, but the attempt to make that one any sweeter than it already may have been just completely fell flat on it's face, in the worst possible way.

[ABED]

What "posh and erudite" mannerisms are you referring to exactly? You keep citing them, but their placement and exact form seems nebulous.

You keep alluding to creator intent on both sides when posing your argument, which I feel isn't germane to the topic. First of all, we don't know what FUNimation's writers were thinking exactly when drafting those lines; second, Toriyama's vision for Freeza is immaterial here since we're talking about a reversion that's subjectively better or worse. Compare both versions on their own merits.

Look at the way Freeza moves and walks and the way he holds his arms behind his back. He also rarely does his own dirty work, he leaves it for his underlings. It's beneath him, or so he feels.

Toriyama's intent isn't imaterial, it's his story. Okay, FUNi's version on its own merits is garbage. It's not interesting, it's not threatening, it's childish, and completely detracts from such a great character. We can gather that FUNi's writers constantly wrote cheesy lines for the characters, not merely Freeza, so the idea that they did it to make him more threatening is false. They did it to beef up the comedy. That has been explicitly stated by FUNi execs.

As for bad dub lines, there's one that I find memorable that no one else seems to. There's an exchange between the tournament announcer and Goku before the final 8 determine the brackets where Goku and the announcer talk about his nice suit. It's VERY uncharacteristic of Goku.

[precita]

A lot of Roshi's perverted humor in Dragonball was severely toned down.

Instead of talking about taking a "Puff Puff" his lines were changed to, "Would you go on a date with me?" or "Come take a walk around my island." or "How about a smoochy-smoochy?"

I think they tried to remove all mention of breasts entirely.

[Azelf89]

Huh...I somehow never noticed that the mention of getting married is completely removed in FUNi's dub of that scene. At least, right there it is...doesn't the Ox King still mention it somewhere? I think?

But yeah, I've loathed their handling of the 23rd Budokai scene - or at least the 'I might not remember, but my heart does' bit - ever since I first saw it. It's so out of character that it doesn't even fit with the way FUNi handled Goku back then or at any other point in time. It's just...maddeningly bizarre. I'm all for sweet moments, but the attempt to make that one any sweeter than it already may have been just completely fell flat on it's face, in the worst possible way.

You might be thinking of those filler episodes during the beginning of the Red Ribbon Army arc, where the Ox King is holding a wedding feast for Chi Chi because she believes that Goku is coming to marry her right then.

Oh, and don't forget that out of character line from Krillin during 23rd Budokai scene as well: "A Bride!? Roughly translated, it means your life is over!"

[Gyt Kaliba]

There's definitely that bit of filler, but I want to say the Ox King still offers her hand in marriage to Goku when he's first telling him about his daughter being mentioned, which prompts Oolong to imagine what the daughter must look like. It's been a while since I watched it though, so maybe my brain is just auto-correcting with what I know should be there.

Ahh yeah, that Krillin line. That one doesn't bother me quite as badly, oddly enough. I mean, it is extremely out of character coming from the guy who's entire mission in life is to find a girl to settle down with, but it's an attempt at humor. Basically it's a 'the wife wears the pants' joke. Whether it's actually funny is up for debate of course, but for me at least it's still not near as nauseating as Goku's 'heart'.

[ABED]

It's times like these that I ask myself, "Why didn't I become a shoe salesman?"

[Azelf89]

There's definitely that bit of filler, but I want to say the Ox King still offers her hand in marriage to Goku when he's first telling him about his daughter being mentioned, which prompts Oolong to imagine what the daughter must look like. It's been a while since I watched it though, so maybe my brain is just auto-correcting with what I know should be there.

Ahh yeah, that Krillin line. That one doesn't bother me quite as badly, oddly enough. I mean, it is extremely out of character coming from the guy who's entire mission in life is to find a girl to settle down with, but it's an attempt at humor. Basically it's a 'the wife wears the pants' joke. Whether it's actually funny is up for debate of course, but for me at least it's still not near as nauseating as Goku's 'heart'.

I just checked and it turns out that, yeah, you were right. He does suggest that they should both marry. I guess it was my brain that was confusing things, as I completely forgot that he said that to Goku.