Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[rereboy]

Everyone was fighting, it's not like anyone had the time to pull out an Excel spreadsheet and calculate power level stuff (which by the way are off-topic).

Fighters in the Dragon Ball universe have always been able to tell how much force they need to take much weaker opponents (killing them or not) without problems.

[Marco Polo]

I'm just happy to see the heroes fighting Freeza's army. I always wanted to see that.

I just wish Freeza had more stronger underlings like Shisame, I'm not asking for a fight that would grind the story to a hault just a few quick one on one fights to let it end with a bang.

I wonder if for example Bulma and Tien will comment Frieza's appearance, since they had never actually seen him in the Namek Saga. Goku also had never seen Frieza's first form.

[Lord Frieza]

Buu arc Piccolo (who is much stronger than 100% Freeza was) getting tired from fighting fodder, and not even that many of them (1000), doesn't make much sense, but ok...

Logically, he could just shoot one ki blast and kill 100 of them. Repeat 10 times and its all done. Why should 10 blast of the level required to destroy this type of fodder tire him significantly?

I guess people watching the film are just supposed to go with it.

Everyone was fighting, it's not like anyone had the time to pull out an Excel spreadsheet and calculate power level stuff (which by the way are off-topic).

Way do I have this image in my head of Gohan doing that while every one else including Frieza and his men stand there looking confused.

[ZombieVito]

Besides a Kiai has killed before.

[Kendamu]

This is exactly what I meant when I said that the power adjustment, the number of foes, and stamina being taken into account will really irk some fans. I, on the other hand, enjoy it because it makes for better fights. In any case, in-universe discussion will now be a lot more interesting for you guys.

Also, the no-kill thing also stalled for time that they needed for Goku to show up.

[Lord Frieza]

I'm just happy to see the heroes fighting Freeza's army. I always wanted to see that.

I just wish Freeza had more stronger underlings like Shisame, I'm not asking for a fight that would grind the story to a hault just a few quick one on one fights to let it end with a bang.

I wonder if for example Bulma and Tenshinhan will comment Freeza's appearance, since they had never actually seen him in the Namek Saga. Goku also had never seen Freeza's first form.

I think they will be more concered about the fact that he's power has increased by ridiculous amount but who knows maybe.

[DBZ_Lee]

Once again, thank you to SaiyaJedi, kei17 & Kendamu for all of the information they've given about the movie.

I absolutely love everything I'm reading about Resurrection"F". I know a lot of other fans are nitpicking at the smallest of details, I, for one am simply interested in how the movie entertains, with regards to Story, action and character development wise.

I think Gohan going Super Saiyan is ok, because he hasn't kept up with his training, and has therefore lost his purest form. Perhaps he will go back to the planet of the Kai's and spend some more time with Elder Kai to retrieve it?.

The situation with Piccolo is acceptable, he was fighting multiple enemies before a fresh Shisame joined the battle, and as the case with Vegeta gaining an immediate advantage fighting an already defeated Freeza at the hands of Goku, Shisame had that same benefit with Piccolo.

[ZombieVito]

Once again, thank you to SaiyaJedi, kei17 & Kendamu for all of the information they've given about the movie.

I absolutely love everything I'm reading about Resurrection"F". I know a lot of other fans are nitpicking at the smallest of details, I, for one am simply interested in how the movie entertains, with regards to Story, action and character development wise.

I think Gohan going Super Saiyan is ok, because he hasn't kept up with his training, and has therefore lost his purest form. Perhaps he will go back to the planet of the Kai's and spend some more time with Elder Kai to retrieve it?.

The situation with Piccolo is acceptable, he was fighting multiple enemies before a fresh Shisame joined the battle, and as the case with Vegeta gaining an immediate advantage fighting an already defeated Freeza at the hands of Goku, Shisame had that same benefit with Piccolo.

Besides Piccolo wasn't beat in one shot like the trailer suggested, he actually traded blows in the film.

I think this movie finally confirms Gohan's ultimate power up is just another form he can access when he sees fit.

[rereboy]

Besides Piccolo wasn't one beat in one shot like the trailer suggested, he actually traded blows in the film.

I think this movie finally confirms Gohan's ultimate power up is just another form he can access when he sees fit.

Then why would he need SSJ? "Ultimate" would be better.

[ZombieVito]

Besides Piccolo wasn't one beat in one shot like the trailer suggested, he actually traded blows in the film.

I think this movie finally confirms Gohan's ultimate power up is just another form he can access when he sees fit.

Then why would he need SSJ? "Ultimate" would be better.

SSJ is enough to beat Shisami.

[Kid Buu]

Besides Piccolo wasn't one beat in one shot like the trailer suggested, he actually traded blows in the film.

I think this movie finally confirms Gohan's ultimate power up is just another form he can access when he sees fit.

It was kind of implied Gohan lost the Ultimate Power-Up because of his slacking off. He says something about not training and wonders if he can even turn SSJ1 at this point.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Oh hey Kid Buu, what were thoughts on the film?

[rereboy]

Besides Piccolo wasn't one beat in one shot like the trailer suggested, he actually traded blows in the film.

I think this movie finally confirms Gohan's ultimate power up is just another form he can access when he sees fit.

Then why would he need SSJ? "Ultimate" would be better.

SSJ is enough to beat Shisami.

Apparently he says "I think I can still go SSJ" even before the battle begins. And since "Ultimate" wastes no energy and doesn't create any tension since its supposed to be as natural as his base, there really isn't a logical reason for Gohan to be in base or SSJ after feeling Freeza's power up.

[Lord Beerus]

On Freeza:

Spoiler:

That base form Freeza was a much stronger one than the one on Namek. He didn't just get a new form. He got stronger overall in every form.

Damn. Now that is insane level grinding. Gotta give Freeza credit for that.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I have a question, in the 2008 OVA it was said that Abo and Cado were as strong as Freeza was before his death, yet apparently Sorbet the leader of the PTO is a lot weaker than that, so are Abo and Cado mentioned at all in the movie? You'd figure they would be very important since the reason Sorbet and Tagoma wanted Freeza back was to have someone strong to enforce their trade and those two seem a lot more stable and less tyrannical than Freeza so if the choice was between them they should have tried to get them back instead.

[ZombieVito]

Besides Piccolo wasn't one beat in one shot like the trailer suggested, he actually traded blows in the film.

I think this movie finally confirms Gohan's ultimate power up is just another form he can access when he sees fit.

It was kind of implied Gohan lost the Ultimate Power-Up because of his slacking off. He says something about not training and wonders if he can even turn SSJ1 at this point.

I'm aware of that. It just seems weird that he lost the form in just a year.

I'm just going to role with what I said until someone asks AT about this.

[Kid Buu]

Oh hey Kid Buu, what were thoughts on the film?

I liked the story more than BOG1, since despite some illogical stuff, it wasn't another "everyone gets together again" like in Battle of Gods.

I wasn't really a fan of how some characters were shafted. I could tolerate Yamcha and Chaozu being left behind, but having Roshi fight when he's much weaker than them? Eh, and I would have liked to see #18 fight. Oh well, Team Gohan Vs. The Mooks was fun, and I really like seeing Jaco fight. Despite complaining about characters being shafted, having less characters did let the ones they use get more time to shine. The character interaction was good too.

As for the main fight, I'm kinda iffy on it. The instant it was established Goku & Vegeta worked out Freeza's weakness it didn't feel like there was much tension, I was kinda bored with that fight fast.

So overall I'd say it's flawed, but I liked it more than Battle of Gods.

[batistabus]

Also, as for Piccolo appearing much weaker in this film....perhaps instead of Shisami being overpowered or the writing just being inconsistent, he simply is that much weaker as a result of him not training. Earth has been peaceful, he does not have a training partner in Goku anymore, and he seems to be more interested in grandfatherly activities nowadays. If you don't use it, you lose it. It seems like Gohan has lost his Elder Kaioshin powerup. It doesn't seem likely that Piccolo would live his life without any form of physical or spiritual discipline, but maybe he has taken more to meditation than actual physical training.

[ZombieVito]

Also, as for Piccolo appearing much weaker in this film....perhaps instead of Shisami being overpowered or the writing just being inconsistent, he simply is that much weaker as a result of him not training. Earth has been peaceful, he does not have a training partner in Goku anymore, and he seems to be more interested in grandfatherly activities nowadays. If you don't use it, you lose it. It seems like Gohan has lost his Elder Kaioshin powerup. It doesn't seem likely that Piccolo would live his life without any form of physical or spiritual discipline, but maybe he has taken more to meditation than actual physical training.

AT confirmed Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo always train.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Oh hey Kid Buu, what were thoughts on the film?

I liked the story more than BOG1, since despite some illogical stuff, it wasn't another "everyone gets together again" like in Battle of Gods.

I wasn't really a fan of how some characters were shafted. I could tolerate Yamcha and Chaozu being left behind, but having Roshi fight when he's much weaker than them? Eh, and I would have liked to see #18 fight. Oh well, Team Gohan Vs. The Mooks was fun, and I really like seeing Jaco fight. Despite complaining about characters being shafted, having less characters did let the ones they use get more time to shine. The character interaction was good too.

As for the main fight, I'm kinda iffy on it. The instant it was established Goku & Vegeta worked out Freeza's weakness it didn't feel like there was much tension, I was kinda bored with that fight fast.

So overall I'd say it's flawed, but I liked it more than Battle of Gods.

Yeah, I guess once they worked out his weakness it was kind of like waiting for the inevitable victory, nice to see Jaco keeps on getting positive responses (wonder who FUNi would cast as him hopefully they stick with Haberkorn), appreciate the thoughts glad you enjoyed the movie.