Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Beerus-sama]

Beerus: Mmm, what a nuisance…Still, you did prepare a nice meal for me, so I’ll save you. But no one else.

Awww... thats so kind of him

Thanks for translating these Herms

[Duo]

I doubt that. To me it seems just like that Freeza managed to release all of his hidden potential in 4 months and no matter the amount of training he'll do in the future, he'll never get any stronger (unless he unlocks new transformations). My main complaint relies on the fact that it takes him 4 months to release it all.

Is there anything in the film that says he brought himself to his absolute limit?

I think people are missing the point here. The 4 months Freeza trained managed to release ALL of his hidden potential. He makes that clear in the first chapter of the tie-in manga where he says "If I were to train and draw out all of my hidden potential latent ability"

Huh. I don't recall that tidbit. It seems odd to me that he would know exactly how strong he can become, and I wonder if that statement in the manga was meant that way. I'll have to look into this a bit further, seems like.

Maybe it would have been easier to swallow it Freeza had been revived with the second wish that Pilaf and co. didn't get a year before Battle of Gods? That way he'd have two years to train instead of four months.

At the same time though, he supposedly was born with a BP of a Super Saiyan....

Well, we don't really know how strong Freeza was upon birth. However, I still agree with you. That would have been an excellent way to close up that BoG plothole while creating greater justification for Freeza's strength growth. It's not THAT big of a deal that he got that much stronger, I just wish there was something blocking the idea that four years of training would have sent him beyond anything the DB universe has ever seen, God's and all.

[mAcChaos]

I doubt that. To me it seems just like that Freeza managed to release all of his hidden potential in 4 months and no matter the amount of training he'll do in the future, he'll never get any stronger (unless he unlocks new transformations). My main complaint relies on the fact that it takes him 4 months to release it all.

Is there anything in the film that says he brought himself to his absolute limit?

Well, it would explain why he only stopped at 4 months.

[Duo]

Well, it would explain why he only stopped at 4 months.

Perhaps. But when the main characters are poking fun at the obvious flaw in the new transformation, it implies Freeza could have gone further, if in no other way than mastering his new form.

[MCDaveG]

Well, he's nowhere as powerful as Brolli, because his power is maximum.

[dbgtFO]

Is it just me or does Goku's Blue Super Saiyan hair look different in some screenshots?
It looks more cyan now.

[sintzu]

I found a review for the movie (not sure if it's been posted) with details about how some scenes play out :

http://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/32 ... n_f_movie/

You have to scroll down a bit for the review.

If anyone doesn't want to read the whole thing then here's the important parts :

Spoiler:

"Vegeta then steps in to help.I cannot describe his presence than anything but intense. Horikawa's voice acting is amazing during this part. Anyone looking for a callback to the Vegeta of old will be more than happy. He's still very much Battle of Gods Vegeta, in that he cares about everyone, but he's much darker and more akin to his Boo arc appearance, I feel.
He talks about the destruction of Planet Vegeta before telling Kuririn to come and grab Goku and give him a senzu. This pretty much begins my favourite portion of the film, and what is really the intended highlight of it, too.
As Kuririn flies towards them, Freeza launches a ki disc at him. Vegeta teleports and knocks it away from Kuririn, right in the direction of Sorbet (RIP!).
After this, Vegeta then transforms into the blue form and begins to slowly walk towards Freeza; spouting off in his usual arrogant way. Freeza looks panicked and responds with a flurry of ki blasts. These don't affect Vegeta at all and he walks right through them; glaring right at Freeza. After a short conversation, Vegeta punches Freeza right in the stomach and begins his beatdown.
The entire sequence features the best animation of the entire film. It looks incredible. Everything is wonderfully framed, beautifully smooth, and incredibly well drawn. It's short but it rivals the cut we got in Battle of Gods where Goku bursts out of the rocks against Beerus.
The scene features no music. It's carried entirely by it's incredible sound effects. They shake the entire room. The beat down is absolutely one-sided and ends with Freeza dropping back into his regular fourth form. Vegeta finally gets to stand over Freeza triumphant."

Spoiler:

"Vegeta's beat down against Freeza is one of the most memorable moments from the entire franchise."

A lot of Vegeta fans on Youtube and other sites are complaining about Vegeta's role in this movie and are calling Toriyama a lire about giving Vegeta a main role so hopefully it'll stop after they see the movie cause based on this review and others,Vegeta is at him best here.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

I found a review for the movie (not sure if it's been posted) with details about how some scenes play out :

http://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/32 ... n_f_movie/

You have to scroll down a bit for the review.

If anyone doesn't want to read the whole thing then here's the important parts :

Spoiler:

"As Kuririn flies towards them, Freeza launches a ki disc at him. Vegeta teleports and knocks it away from Kuririn, right in the direction of Sorbet (RIP!).
After this, Vegeta then transforms into the blue form and begins to slowly walk towards Freeza; spouting off in his usual arrogant way. Freeza looks panicked and responds with a flurry of ki blasts. These don't affect Vegeta at all and he walks right through them; glaring right at Freeza. After a short conversation, Vegeta punches Freeza right in the stomach and begins his beatdown.
The entire sequence features the best animation of the entire film. It looks incredible. Everything is wonderfully framed, beautifully smooth, and incredibly well drawn. It's short but it rivals the cut we got in Battle of Gods where Goku bursts out of the rocks against Beerus.
The scene features no music. It's carried entirely by it's incredible sound effects. They shake the entire room. The beat down is absolutely one-sided and ends with Freeza dropping back into his regular fourth form. Vegeta finally gets to stand over Freeza triumphant."

Spoiler:

"Vegeta's beatdown against Freeza is one of the most memorable moments from the entire franchise."

Yeah, it was brought up about 3 pages back.

[sintzu]

Yeah, it was brought up about 3 pages back.

Well at least people who didn't read it won't have to go look for it.

[Doctor.]

Is it just me or does Goku's Blue Super Saiyan hair look different in some screenshots?
It looks more cyan now.

The color is really inconsistent. It looks cyan in some scans, then it's dark blue in others, then it has a greenish hue, in others it's a really light blue, I think it's because of the aura.

[SansrivaaL]

Gotta admit, I love how AT portrayed Goku,Vegeta and Frieza.
Goku got stomped in a not so humiliating manner since Frieza could barely hurt Goku anymore that he needed help from his henchmen to put Goku down.
Vegeta fighting a tired Frieza now yeah we will never know if Vegeta could have stood a chance against Frieza in a 100% state but putting him in a position that Frieza could no longer even hurt Goku despite them both tired (but yeah Frieza mostly) it fits the scene, the Vegeta vs Frieza is not a battle anymore, its a 1 sided beatup that suited Vegeta.
Frieza being a sly mothafcka as usual.
all in all I love how the plot goes and how it shows us that almost all of em are idiots for letting their guard down.
Still hyped to see this! (not so happy about the cgi especially from the trailer)

[Baggie_Saiyan]

A lot of folk said the CGI improved a lot over BoG, course I would prefer no CGI at all but it is at least assuring to know it is not as bad as BoG.

[Btown Saiyan]

as the first reviews came out couple weeks ago, I have to admit I was rather upset with how the movie ends, but as I see more and more info come out, I've talked myself into at least keeping an open mind about it once I'm able to see it.

[fexus]

So, the movie wasn't a disaster as people think it is. Wow, what a surprise.

[ShadowWolf87]

Spoiler:

"Vegeta's beatdown against Freeza is one of the most memorable moments from the entire franchise."

I really do have to wonder what one's opinion on the quality of the franchise is if they think that

Spoiler:

a fresh Vegeta beating on an already-exhausted Freeza

is one of said franchise's most memorable moments.

[Abel Taylor]

Spoiler:

"Vegeta's beatdown against Freeza is one of the most memorable moments from the entire franchise."

I really do have to wonder what one's opinion on the quality of the franchise is if they think that

Spoiler:

a fresh Vegeta beating on an already-exhausted Freeza

is one of said franchise's most memorable moments.

I like that Vegeta beats Frieza like that. It reminds me of the Saiyan and Namek sagas, and Vegeta was awesome back then.
Also, I think ghey mean the beating scene in general.

[ShadowWolf87]

Spoiler:

"Vegeta's beatdown against Freeza is one of the most memorable moments from the entire franchise."

I really do have to wonder what one's opinion on the quality of the franchise is if they think that

Spoiler:

a fresh Vegeta beating on an already-exhausted Freeza

is one of said franchise's most memorable moments.

I like that Vegeta beats Freeza like that. It reminds me of the Saiyan and Namek sagas, and Vegeta was awesome back then.
Also, I think ghey mean the beating scene in general.

Still. I get being happy it gets to happen and all, and I could maybe get it were it an epic brawl with them evenly matched similar to Namek and Goku & Freeza... or even if it were done akin to Gohan taking on Cell post-Senzu and still beating him down effortlessly.

It just seems a bit undercut by

Spoiler:

Freeza already being so worn out he couldn't really even affect Goku anymore with his blows

, idk.

[ekrolo2]

Wouldn't it be far more memorable for Vegeta and Freeza to have a legit fight, almost even fight akin to Goku VS Cell in which Vegeta turns out the victory THEN gets his chance of beating up Freeza afterward?

[Birusu16]

Spoiler:

"Vegeta's beatdown against Freeza is one of the most memorable moments from the entire franchise."

I really do have to wonder what one's opinion on the quality of the franchise is if they think that

Spoiler:

a fresh Vegeta beating on an already-exhausted Freeza

is one of said franchise's most memorable moments.

Seriously? Why don't you just learn to broaden your view and accept other peoples opinions. It'll go a long way for you, even in real life. Just because they see a moment like this in high regard doesn't mean they think the quality of the franchise is shit. It just happens to be one of the best moments for them. What you think and what other people think doesn't always line up.

[dbzfan7]

Spoiler:

"Vegeta's beatdown against Freeza is one of the most memorable moments from the entire franchise."

I really do have to wonder what one's opinion on the quality of the franchise is if they think that

Spoiler:

a fresh Vegeta beating on an already-exhausted Freeza

is one of said franchise's most memorable moments.

Agreed. Vegeta kicking the shit out of Freeza sounds awesome on paper, and apparently looks fantastic in the animation. However that context absolutely kills the moment for me. It makes the fight lame. If Vegeta realized he was scared, but wanted to prove he could still beat a 100% Freeza, then the moment would be all the much sweeter and epic. They could also split that last senzu bean as that did work on Namek, and then have Vegeta fight Freeza at his best. Instead he beats up on a tired Freeza who could no longer hurt Goku beforehand, which pretty much meant Vegeta had pretty much had gotten spoon fed a win. Honestly I'd normally think Vegeta would rather not bother as a spoonfed victory doesn't make him superior. Kinda like how Goku refused a senzu while he was fighting Cell. He would rather die than win like that.

I do like stomp fights, but only when it's a stomp when everyone is at their best. Gohan vs Cell being the prime example as that's a stomp, but Cell really couldn't do shit even at his best. Freeza though could have done way better. I just can't imagine Vegeta going through with this. It feels so....not Vegeta. Though I guess he has done this before Ala the Ginyu Force, but even so it feels so lame. Like he really should have had an epic final battle, but instead took the bronze medal fight instead.

Though hey some people are really happy with this, and that's fine with them. Honestly I'd feel kinda sour if I was the big fan. I'd want a worthy final battle. I'd want a bold statement. Instead I see a coyote eating up the bones that the wolverine had left behind.