"Dragon Ball FighterZ" Official Discussion Thread

[KayDash]

Until we wait for the new character reveals here are some fresh manga comparison videos by IKevinX:

Tien:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsBRxtXfrOg

Nappa:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6PjLBOSmtQ

Ginyu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8u8V681Cng

[mahakaishin1991]

It cant be long till the next reveal right? I'm really hoping for Raditz.

[KayDash]

There are some interesting leaks:
[spoiler]Dragon Ball FighterZ:
3 of the DLC characters I've heard of include Broly, Regular Goku (it was noted to me that he does use the Spriit Bomb), and Regular Vegeta. This is something I know is going to be highly controversial and I will get into why further down. Three more characters that I know about but not their status of launch or DLC are Bardock (whom I originally heard would be DLC, but that was only from one source that I have never heard back from), Raditz (I was told that he'd be DLC by only one source in particular), and Goku Black (in his Rose form)
I was told that Goku Black was even finished 3 months ago, and that Broly, Regular Goku, and Regular Vegeta were finished during the game's main development with Goku Black. I think people should make some noise if those 3 (or 4 if Goku Black is withheld) were made alongside the launch game, but are going to be held back as DLC like I've been told.
With the controversy out of the way, there is a Switch port in the works. Unreal Engine 4's UE4.15 is Switch-friendly, so that may explain why the Switch port is coming later. I do not know what Unreal Engine 4 version it uses for the others. The much demanded Nintendo Switch version will likely come out next year in the autumn or winter.
For some personal history, the season pass was originally leaked to me as some exclusive pass featuring saiyans (I originally heard about Broly and Bardock being DLC characters). Since the FighterZ Pass was revealed, I've heard much more since originally leaking those two. I've been told the game will be supported for 2 years by multiple sources. I don't know if that pass of 8 characters accounts for the first year or both. I am going to assume it means just the first year. Bandai Namco is reportedly, according to the people I have talked to, taking a very serious approach with this game having a lengthy life and long term support. Including an esports push.
I have a few different sources regarding this game as I said. Every source that I've talked to has told me that Broly, Regular Goku, and Regular Vegeta have all been heard about and agreed upon as being DLC.

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments ... eakileaks/[/spoiler]

So it's apparently the same person who leaked the latest Injustice 2 characters so it might end up actually being true.
Raditz, Broly, Bardock, Base Goku and Base Vegeta were already in Extreme Butoden, and they are popular choices, so they are not a suprise at all. The SSJ Goku character leaves out most of his moveset from the 23rd Tournament to the Namek Saga, so while I'm not too happy about clone characters at least there's enough stuff, to make him unique: Bending Kamahameha, Feet Kamehameha, Kaioken, Genki Dama, etc. Same applies to Vegeta, he had at least 4 different energy attacks, that the SSJ Vegeta character doesn't have, and for a change they could give him that move as a close range super attack that he used to finish off transformed Zarbon.

And there's also Goku Black, he is like one of the most requested characters, if you follow this game on any message board. No suprise.

I was told that Goku Black was even finished 3 months ago, and that Broly, Regular Goku, and Regular Vegeta were finished during the game's main development with Goku Black.

Now if Normal Goku/Vegeta is already finished, and they just cut them from the final game, that's a bit sad. Although it also makes sense: They don't want that many clones with the smaller roster in the base game, and it was probably much easier to not split the development of the 3 versions of Goku and Vegeta.

[Olympian]

Wasting time with regular Vegeta or Goku in the game? Make regular versions that transform into Super Saiyan like Freeza does into Golden Freeza..wha? I can see the validity in terms of moveset that is missing in your post but at this point too many clones is not really adding up anything of worth so I`m hoping they were scrapped.

Wasted slots when you have so many characters that could expand the potential complete roster further. I rather have Raditz instead.

[KayDash]

Wasted slots

Nah, clones are not like that. They usually go for clones because they can save time and money on them. So assuming the current roster's size, it's not "24 and two of the slots are wasted on SSBlue characters", but instead it's "the game has 22 characters, but we also add two extra clones, because they are cheap to make".

And Raditz is confirmed in that leak. (if the leak is true)

[LightBing]

Can we not advertise these "leaks"?

Remember the "Saiyan Pass" rumour apparently it was the same individual leaking it and look how true it was. This latest rumour is him regurgitating what he posted two months ago adding the Regular Saiyans rumour and Goku Black.
Checking his reddit history all he does is provide leaks from all range of companies. How well connected is this guy?

He got the Injustice 2 leaks correct? When you shoot in all directions I guess that's bound to happen. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Also can't one not see the irony of the post coming from a sub-reddit called Kappa. I mean seriously...

[mahakaishin1991]

Wasted slots

Nah, clones are not like that. They usually go for clones because they can save time and money on them. So assuming the current roster's size, it's not "24 and two of the slots are wasted on SSBlue characters", but instead it's "the game has 22 characters, but we also add two extra clones, because they are cheap to make".

And Raditz is confirmed in that leak. (if the leak is true)

a big assumption since there are no images to back this up?

[KayDash]

Wasted slots

Nah, clones are not like that. They usually go for clones because they can save time and money on them. So assuming the current roster's size, it's not "24 and two of the slots are wasted on SSBlue characters", but instead it's "the game has 22 characters, but we also add two extra clones, because they are cheap to make".

And Raditz is confirmed in that leak. (if the leak is true)

a big assumption since there are no images to back this up?

Okay then, I fixed it for you:
The current roster's size is X. It's not "X slots and two of them are wasted on SSBlue characters", but instead it's "the game has X-2 characters, but we also add two extra clones, because they are cheap to make".

Can we not advertise these "leaks"?

Remember the "Saiyan Pass" rumour apparently it was the same individual leaking it and look how true it was. This latest rumour is him regurgitating what he posted two months ago adding the Regular Saiyans rumour and Goku Black.
Checking his reddit history all he does is provide leaks from all range of companies. How well connected is this guy?

He got the Injustice 2 leaks correct? When you shoot in all directions I guess that's bound to happen. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Also can't one not see the irony of the post coming from a sub-reddit called Kappa. I mean seriously...

The "Saiyan Pass leak" was from 4chan, and not from him, and it's not really possible to guess that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will be the last DLC character of a DC Comics game, like the guy did. If it was actually him...
I never take these kind of leaks as facts, but it's always interesting to look into them, and there are cases when they turn out to be true. Like the TMNT leak for Injustice, or the Menat leak in Street Fighter V, who were also a non-guessable character, because she was brand new to the series.

[mahakaishin1991]

Did i mention the roster size?

Was referring to raditz. Don't want to feel disappointed if he's deconfirmed later

[LightBing]

Can we not advertise these "leaks"?

Remember the "Saiyan Pass" rumour apparently it was the same individual leaking it and look how true it was. This latest rumour is him regurgitating what he posted two months ago adding the Regular Saiyans rumour and Goku Black.
Checking his reddit history all he does is provide leaks from all range of companies. How well connected is this guy?

He got the Injustice 2 leaks correct? When you shoot in all directions I guess that's bound to happen. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Also can't one not see the irony of the post coming from a sub-reddit called Kappa. I mean seriously...

The "Saiyan Pass leak" was from 4chan, and not from him, and it's not really possible to guess that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will be the last DLC character of a DC Comics game, like the guy did. If it was actually him...
I never take these kind of leaks as facts, but it's always interesting to look into them, and there are cases when they turn out to be true. Like the TMNT leak for Injustice, or the Menat leak in Street Fighter V, who were also a non-guessable character, because she was brand new to the series.

True but he rode that leak to support his claim that Broly and Bardock are DLC characters the first time he come up with some inside information. He got a bunch of things wrong regarding other games based on posts from people analysing his information. It seems people got blind-sided by the Injustice 2 bit.

Every once in a while a leak turns out to be true, the majority don't. The majority are people seeking attention while spreading miss-information. Don't feed them. That person post already took over the Dragon Ball FighterZ sub-reddit with a parody post and other posts regarding the regular Saiyans versions.

You might think it's interesting but it's not, you're contributing to the problem inadvertently. There's a reason this website has a rumor guide.

Not to say that talking about leaks should be off limits, let's just have much better standards. If you look beyond this guy's opening line of Injustice 2 everything else is a bunch of questions marks.

[KayDash]

Did i mention the roster size?

Was referring to raditz. Don't want to feel disappointed if he's deconfirmed later

The quote had the whole post, it was hard to tell.

Also my Raditz reaction originally was for this:

Wasted slots when you have so many characters that could expand the potential complete roster further. I rather have Raditz instead.

And what I ment is if the leak is true, and normal Goku/Vegeta take two slots, they still don't really take Raditz' slot, because he is also in.

[The S]

Can we not advertise these "leaks"?

While I don't see any problem with discussing them, I'm tired of the world pretending they're actual leaks. Just like how you have it in quotes, I prefer to call them alleged leaks or just plain old rumors.

Even with the most trusted "leakers", I take everything with a grain of salt. Not all of them are always 100% correct, and I even remember one guy got his source fired and so he made stuff up to try to keep his rep.

Plus I find it hard to believe that one rando like this has so many ears to the ground at so many companies that he could get all of this information.

Evidence is king. If you don't have evidence, you don't have shit.

[KayDash]

Just finished reading through the whole reddit thread, he indeed verifies himself with proof as a person who leaked the Injustice 2 DLC. Which of course doesn't make the DBFZ rumor automatically true. But it's not like we can trust the gaming press either, just look at IGN with their "two new DBFZ characters".
Anyway, some of those rumors look realistic, some of them don't like the SFV one. I'm not seeing them adding color edit mode, when they make money on selling outfit colors. Also what does he mean by four free characters? All dlc characters are already free, if you unlock them by playing a lot.
There's also something about DBFZ he wrote that is wierd:

The FighterZ info was the thing that disappointed me the most to hear concerning them not just being done, but held back as DLC.... when two of those characters are two more versions of Goku and Vegeta. Worst part is that info came from very reputable sources, so there's not much wiggle room for it not being how things will pan out. A point of me getting that info in particular out there is so that they see the reception to it online before the game goes gold so that they reconsider and make them launch roster characters instead since the work is done on them.

There were many cases, when a company intentionally leaked stuff, to keep up hype, but I'm not seeing the point of this one. It's really obvious what people would think about finished content being left out of the game to be sold as seperate DLC. (based on the many similar cases previously) A "leak" like this would only lead to negative press, which Bamco already had enough in the recent weeks.

[FortuneSSJ]

Fake or not, I sincerely hope Base Goku and Base Vegeta is something that it's not even under consideration to them.
As if announce 8 DLC characters months away from the game being released haven't been bad enough.

[precita]

I can see Goku, Vegeta and Radditz being in, but in the regular game and not DLC. Nobody is going to pay for these characters.

DLC characters generally have to be extremely popular or have an incentive to buy them. Far less people are going to fork over $10 for Radditz and base Goku as they would for Hit and Goku Black.

[The S]

I'm actually surprised there hasn't been a legit leak in the way of datamining the beta.

Maybe BamCo finally wised up....

[Olympian]

I can see Goku, Vegeta and Radditz being in, but in the regular game and not DLC. Nobody is going to pay for these characters.

DLC characters generally have to be extremely popular or have an incentive to buy them. Far less people are going to fork over $10 for Radditz and base Goku as they would for Hit and Goku Black.

If that be the case who would pick up regular Vegeta or Goku in base roster? What would the incentive be?

Especially when everyone can smell a Ultra Limit Goku or Super God Goku and Vegeta looming ahead as DLC. The regular versions don`t add zip to the game other than some completist desire to use Goku`s feet kamehameha but then again there`s moves others have been missing as well like Tenshinhan`s Kiai or the OG clones attack. You can pretty much add anime moves to nearly anyone that is already there or make some new ones.

Nah, they did it but as soon they updated the models to Super Saiyan and Blue, they were scrapped. At least it`s what I`m hoping.

[Nickolaidas]

8 DLC characters currently costing about 40 bucks, of which half are GokuVegetas.

Fun-freakin-tastic.

So what was that crap about 'not wanting five Gokus in the game' and all that?

I mean, it is moronic to have characters like the Ginyu Force, Chiaotzu and #17 being used as assist characters and not regular characters, while Goku will have three versions and two look-alikes? That's bullshit.

If true.

[Simere]

8 DLC characters currently costing about 40 bucks, of which half are GokuVegetas.

Fun-freakin-tastic.

So what was that crap about 'not wanting five Gokus in the game' and all that?

I'm going to quote what I said before the last time this became a point of discussion:

Many fans have said that's what they said, but at best what they said is that it would be kept to a minimum:

PG: Other Dragon Ball games have featured multiple versions of characters (for example, Teen Gohan, Adult Gohan and Great Saiyaman). Is it possible we may see multiple versions of characters in this game?

TH: When developing this game, we are focusing on making the fighting characteristics of each character really stand out and deliver a variety of gameplay. With that said, we don’t intend to include too many characters who fight alike.

KS: Will we see multiple versions of playable characters such as different forms of Goku for example?

TH: We can’t go into detail, all we can say right now is look forward to future announcements, and we choose which characters make it in depending on what they can add to the game in a unique way, so look forward to that.

But the more straightforward interpretation is that she's saying Kid Goku, SSB Goku, SSJ Goku and SSJ4 Goku can all be in the game as long as they play differently from each other.

And I'll also add now that three versions of a character might not seem like "too many" to them, especially since they could have closer to ten.

I, for one, would be happy to have Base Goku to fill out an all Goku team. That's the only silver lining from that supposed leak.

[Nickolaidas]

No. Just no.

Having five Gokus and three Vegetas in a game with a roster of 32 characters is TOO MUCH.

It's that Final Bout crap all over again.