Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[SaiyaJedi]

"Countdown DB ~ Dragon Ball Z Resurrection 'F'" Exihbition
Fuji TV
April 14 (Tuesday) ~ 16 (Thursday)

Casting:
Masako Nozawa
Ryusei Nakao
MAXIMUM THE HORMONE

http://www.barks.jp/news/?id=1000114611 ... paign=feed


**** Double post, i'm sorry! ****

Bonus Stage, I believe it has been mentioned to you before, but you need to have more content in your post than just a link to something and a vague reference to its contents. There are times that you even leave everything in Japanese, so that you haven't even added anything of your own at all. Does this intrigue you? Are you excited for it? Do you want to know what it says? If you have nothing to say, consider letting someone else link to it instead.

[Friezaa!]

i typed this long messages and this dumb site keepslogging me out. awh hate that.

here we go again

[Vegitofaxx]

i typed this long messages and this dumb site keepslogging me out. awh hate that.

here we go again

Alright...?

[Birusu16]

I got some friends in LA that said that this movie is better than Fast & Furious 7 and they're fan of both series

This proceeds?

I haven't seen Fukkatsu no F yet, but I have seen Furious 7 and I can't see anyway a DBZ movie can top it. What they did for Paul Walker was absolutely stunning and beautiful. An anime movie can't measure up to that IMO.

[Friezaa!]

Just a summary of what i wrote. could bother writing all that again:

He let Freeza repeatedly transform on Namek despite knowing he'd be pretty outclassed, he let Cell transform into his Perfect form just to test himself and he was cocky enough to again think he'd be able to defeat Buu without anyone elses help. Vegeta being smart about his engagements ended when the Ginyu force arrived and his IQ has yet to grow back since. He's completely failed to fight smartly since then. If anything, Vegeta should've been the one to want to go up against Freeza and Goku be the one to sense that somethings amiss, as it was during their battle in the Buu Saga.

If anything, Whis' whole lecture to Goku and Vegeta is completely wrong. More often then not, Goku knows when to gauge his opponents strength in a fairly precise and unbiased way, Vegeta's the one who gets too laid back and cocky with his strength and it has been the cause of his repeated ass kickings throughout DBZ. If he suddenly grew a brain cell its not any better, its just rushed "character development".

Vegeta shouldn't be scared of Freeza, if anything he'd be the one to rush in and have at him thinking he's superior, especially given his recent acquisition of God power. As for the whole "letting down your guard thing" please don't remind me, I try not to think about that.... thing....

I think you're forgetting the context when it comes to Vegeta's goading Freeza to transform. Earlier when he fought Zarbon he was informed that both he and Freeza have hidden transformations that boost their powers, which implies that even had Vegeta matched first form Freeza in strength, Freeza would just transform anyway to get the upper hand. So in a way, fighting Freeza in his first form would be pointless, which is what I think Vegeta foresaw. ( Look to his second fight with Zarbon as another example of Vegeta's refusal to fight opponents who are holding back). In a way, it was smart at the time. Why waste energy on someone who is holding back? His chances of winning were not going to change regardless, because if he started to win Freeza would just transform. Of course, he greatly underestimated the power boost that Freeza would obtain. However, every subsequent transformation was not Vegeta's fault. I don't recall him having a true fight with second or third form Freeza once Piccolo arrived, since he was too busy trying to get a zenkai boost on the sidelines. (Which demonstrates some calculating on Vegeta's part; scheming before he gets in the fight with Freeza, which is an early example of the meticulous and strategizing fighter that Whis implies him to be).

The only time Vegeta was too overconfident in his abilities was his Android/Cell arc persona, and right before he goes off to fight the fat Majn Boo.

But I wouldn't say that Toriyama "rushed his character development". I think by the end of the Boo arc he was fairly humbled and as a result became more laid back. We saw him give Goku the title of "Number One" and finally succumbed to getting off his proverbial high horse. The seeds for that development were planted at the end of that arc. Whether you believe that he stays true to that is entirely up for you to decide, but if we also look back to the 2008 OVA and Battle of Gods, he isn't quite the rusher you make him out to be. He actually waits and conceded to let others fight, and only stepped in when he absolutely had to. So if anything, ROF isn't out of place or uncharacteristic of Vegeta. It's following through that character development that started way back then.

As for Goku, he's never been the one to really calculate or reserve himself. He's always the first to go and try and experiment with things, in that laid back manner. We can go as far back to his initial reaction to Freeza, and how excited he was to fight him, despite the warnings from Kaio-sama. He jumps in to the fight without really knowing how tough Freeza was, and luckily he powered through and came out on top.

If we look at the Cell games, we see him laid back throughout that arc, and is completely confident that Gohan would save the day. And of course, as we all know that ended up costing him his own life. He was too relaxed and nonchalant and paid dearly for it. This is Goku's typical MO. He gets real excited and rushes into things, and sometimes he wins and other times he gets owned pretty badly. The last example of that characteristic of his is when he fights Beerus in the beginning of Battle of Gods. He wanted to go fight the "God of Destruction" despite not knowing how strong he was, and greatly underestimated the power he held. He didn't quite "gauge" his opponent that time, whic is something you imply he does all the time.

So I don't think any of the actions that Goku and Vegeta make are out of character at all. Sure Toriyama forgets a lot of things here and there, but I don't think he forgets who his characters are, and what drives each of them. He's been pretty consistent with their motivations ever since he retook the helm with these new movies.

You got it twisted, a bit, the only time goku doesn't 'seem' calculated and reserved, or rushes into a fight is during battle of gods, And its understandable to a certain degree why he did, obviously because he 'cant sense' beerus. Also you have a very narrow minded view on all this(either that or you're just biased). Whats being shown in that scene is ignorance and intense curiosity (and a slightly uncharacteristic show of arrogance). That doesn't mean hes not calculated and reserved. If goku could have sensed beerus there wouldn't have been a fight, we know this as fact based on the scene back in the buu saga with how goku reacted to vegeta attempting to blow a hole through buu, goku knowing buus strengh calculated his and vegetas chances, and so stopped him, knowing they'd loose.

With frieza he was forced, his son and friends were in danger. Before this, he chose not to fight frieza based not on Kaio-sama warnings that came before his newly acquired strength but on vegetas(who also already knows how strong frieza is as well as gokus new strengh) statement comparing the two. And he didnt jump in the fight with frieza expecting he'd win he knew very well frieza was stronger than him(at this point he could sense Freeza's strengh), hence the slight hesitation before going, just didnt know by how much. Which is why he went in with 10 times kaioken as one of his back up plan(as well as spirit bomb), which didnt work because of the huge gap between them.

The manga as always depicted goku as calculative and reserved when it comes to everything involving fighting. There are so many scenes that clearly shows this, to say this isnt true, dismissing those scenes shows a great deal of bias..

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Another review (spoiler-free):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeqwnSF3_0w

He also says he knows the specific release date for the dub in the summer but can't disclose it yet.

[Polyphase Avatron]

The Whis blog post doesn't make sense. Even if Whis never knew about the androids or Cell, he surely knows about the Kaioshin and they said they could defeat Freeza (pre-resurrection) easily, didn't they?

[Mewzard]

The Whis blog post doesn't make sense. Even if Whis never knew about the androids or Cell, he surely knows about the Kaioshin and they said they could defeat Freeza (pre-resurrection) easily, didn't they?

Maybe he was just saying who could AND would do it. The Kaioshin clearly had other business to worry about after Majin Buu.

[Polyphase Avatron]

True, he also doesn't mention himself come to think of it.

[Dyno]

Oh, and back on April 1st, Bulma shockingly revealed that Trunks isn't actually Vegeta's child!! Of course.

What!?

EDIT: Ah, April's Fool. Damn.

[Lord Beerus]

Preview of Momoiro Clover Z's "'Z' no Chikai" music video

I have to admit, it looks pretty cool.

[SSJ Electric Fury]

Preview of Momoiro Clover Z's "'Z' no Chikai" music video

I have to admit, it looks pretty cool.

I don't know if this is the full version or just what's used in the movie, but here's more of the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G49m2OqXFE0

On a side note, can someone tell me if Goku transforms in some manner (post-rewind) before he kills Freeza?

[BlackCatScott]

I really like it, it's really catchy and sounded cool in the trailers. Pleased to finally hear it without voices over the top of the song

[SansrivaaL]

Never thought the song would sound that good.... especially the last part it had a lil chinese effect.
Also the first girl... her cosplay is freaking sick! Goku's upper gi + sun wukong's pants

[buutenks]

Does golden freeza have god ki or normal ki?

[GoldLiger]

Does golden freeza have god ki or normal ki?

Maybe or was just as strong as ???? Goku. Did you guys hear the reason why Frieza goes Gold?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Freeza chose the Gold colouring himself because he thought it was perfect the thing to do to exact his revenge, since Goku and Trunks were Gold when they offed him.

[ZaWarudoZ]

Dunno if someone mentioned this, but Enma saying that Dabra would've liked to go to hell, now that we know how it really is supposed to look like, sounds sort of wierd..

http://img1.mangasee.co/s/DragonBall/0478-003.png

[ShadowWolf87]

Dunno if someone mentioned this, but Enma saying that Dabra would've liked to go to hell, now that we know how it really is supposed to look like, sounds sort of wierd..

http://img1.mangasee.co/s/DragonBall/0478-003.png

Fairly certain that this is just Freeza's own little corner of Hell.

Besides, sadism is sadism, and he'd probably dig the ironic cruelty.

[Noah]

I got some friends in LA that said that this movie is better than Fast & Furious 7 and they're fan of both series

This proceeds?

I haven't seen Fukkatsu no F yet, but I have seen Furious 7 and I can't see anyway a DBZ movie can top it. What they did for Paul Walker was absolutely stunning and beautiful. An anime movie can't measure up to that IMO.

Maybe they can if they do something crazy like kill a relevant character from the series forever like Piccolo or Gohan lol

but yeah that would make no sense