"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Swifticuffs » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:14 pm

Alruneia wrote:It's only sensible that the Grand Attendant is the same race as Whis and Vados, who are also attendants.
("Priest" is a stupid translation if you ask me, even if it is accurate, since "Attendant" also works.)

I still think that the Top 5 Strongest in the Multiverse list goes
1. Zen'ou
2. Zen'ou's guard
3. Zen'ou's other guard
4. The Grand Attendant
5. An unknown person
I guess if we classify the two as Guards and translate to attendant for "priest" as I agree, dislike that too, then this all makes sense to me.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:19 pm

Alruneia wrote:("Priest" is a stupid translation if you ask me, even if it is accurate, since "Attendant" also works.)
I still think that the Top 5 Strongest in the Multiverse list goes
[spoiler]1. Zen'ou
2. Zen'ou's guard
3. Zen'ou's other guard
4. The Grand Attendant
5. An unknown person[/spoiler]
Sure, I just used Priest since it's more common (though I use Black Goku, so...).

The Grand Attendant could also be #5, though. It would make sense considering they did say "Top 5."
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:20 pm

Swifticuffs wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:
Hit and weaker characters yes, Cabba, no.
And guess what?
Trunks is also very weak in this situation so your last comment makes you look like an idiot.

You are ultimately just easily satisfied. My point about a bunch of rematches seems true though.

In a few weeks you and others will most likely be complaining about the mystery and outcome. I am looking forward more to the story in Xenoverse 2 than this arc.

For the next arc I want a traditional bad guy with henchmen who is just evil as I feel Super needs that now.
That was completely uncalled for. There are better ways to phrase than that one.
This guy rampages the forums angry all the time. Pay him no mind. Trunks is not weak compared to the others. Cabba is, but he'd be a fresh, and new character. What's great is NEW characters. That's what I was suggesting we'd need.

But it's all too easy with you. Say one negative thing about Piccolo and it's as if someone set fire to your establishment. Really is a joke, at this point.

Call me easily satisfied or whatever, I'm just a happy guy enjoying and carrying on.
I hardly even talk about Piccolo anymore. Trunks is closer in power to Piccolo then Goku and Vegeta so he is weak then according to you.

I do a lot of complaining but I give valid reasons why I do, while all of you act like the characters in Frieza's hell with this arc.

Cabba might be new character by default but he is basically Gohan and most importantly he is just another Saiyan so to me he is not fresh. Hit, Magetta, Beerus/Champa, Whis/Vados, Botamo and Jaco all new races with new personalities which I want from Super and that is why I like them and not Cabba.

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Post by Swifticuffs » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:22 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Swifticuffs wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote: That was completely uncalled for. There are better ways to phrase than that one.
This guy rampages the forums angry all the time. Pay him no mind. Trunks is not weak compared to the others. Cabba is, but he'd be a fresh, and new character. What's great is NEW characters. That's what I was suggesting we'd need.

But it's all too easy with you. Say one negative thing about Piccolo and it's as if someone set fire to your establishment. Really is a joke, at this point.

Call me easily satisfied or whatever, I'm just a happy guy enjoying and carrying on.
I hardly even talk about Piccolo anymore. Trunks is closer in power to Piccolo then Goku and Vegeta so he is weak then according to you.

I do a lot of complaining but I give valid reasons why I do, while all of you act like the characters in Frieza's hell with this arc.

Cabba might be new character by default but he is basically Gohan and most importantly he is just another Saiyan so to me he is not fresh. Hit, Magetta, Beerus/Champa, Whis/Vados, Botamo and Jaco all new races with new personalities which I want from Super and that is why I like them and not Cabba.
Yes, all of us act like you've said. We're all wrong and you're right. Just stop complaining once please. Enjoy the series. If you don't enjoy it, don't watch it? It's really too easy bud.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:25 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:Cabba might be new character by default but he is basically Gohan and most importantly he is just another Saiyan so to me he is not fresh. Hit, Magetta, Beerus/Champa, Whis/Vados, Botamo and Jaco all new races with new personalities which I want from Super and that is why I like them and not Cabba.
Let me decipher this correctly. All the Saiyans from Z are fine, but any Saiyans they introduce in Super are unacceptable and boring?
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Post by namekiansaiyan » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:34 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Cabba might be new character by default but he is basically Gohan and most importantly he is just another Saiyan so to me he is not fresh. Hit, Magetta, Beerus/Champa, Whis/Vados, Botamo and Jaco all new races with new personalities which I want from Super and that is why I like them and not Cabba.
Let me decipher this correctly. All the Saiyans from Z are fine, but any Saiyans they introduce in Super are unacceptable and boring?
There is too many if we are just going to get a million Super Saiyans which result in no variation. It also does not help when they copy each others attacks like Trunks, Cabba and Gohan. I also gave a reason for not liking Cabba and that was I feel he is just Gohan reincarnated which is not what I like. I also do not like Gohan who is from Z but everyone else is good

I also feel people only like him because he is a Saiyan and tjat they already liked him before he did anything.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:36 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:I also feel people only like him because he is a Saiyan and tjat they already liked him before he did anything.
Maybe, but I only started liking him after I watched the show. I disliked his design and role before that, though.
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Post by dbs fanboy » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:37 pm

namekiansaiyan wrote:
Swifticuffs wrote:
DragonBalllKaiHD wrote: That was completely uncalled for. There are better ways to phrase than that one.
This guy rampages the forums angry all the time. Pay him no mind. Trunks is not weak compared to the others. Cabba is, but he'd be a fresh, and new character. What's great is NEW characters. That's what I was suggesting we'd need.

But it's all too easy with you. Say one negative thing about Piccolo and it's as if someone set fire to your establishment. Really is a joke, at this point.

Call me easily satisfied or whatever, I'm just a happy guy enjoying and carrying on.
I hardly even talk about Piccolo anymore. Trunks is closer in power to Piccolo then Goku and Vegeta so he is weak then according to you.

I do a lot of complaining but I give valid reasons why I do, while all of you act like the characters in Frieza's hell with this arc.

Cabba might be new character by default but he is basically Gohan and most importantly he is just another Saiyan so to me he is not fresh. Hit, Magetta, Beerus/Champa, Whis/Vados, Botamo and Jaco all new races with new personalities which I want from Super and that is why I like them and not Cabba.
While I respect your opinion, i disagree, many Times you pulled the trigger too quickly into making conclusions.
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Post by Noah » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:55 pm

God, please don't let Mirai Trunks become a SSGSS, I know they're trying in the deep to keep this form exclusive to Goku and Vegeta and that's the way how it should be, I know it sounds bullsh** for Trunks to keep up with Black as SSJ/2, whatever just keep him as a weakling, we know for sure that he will not be the one to finish Black anyway

I heard a spoiler that Vegeta would become "Rose" and defeat Black, as ridiculous as it sound, it would be nice for him to defeat a main villain after all this time, but that's not gonna happen either :)
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Post by Neon Z » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:59 pm

I wonder if there's any chance we'd get Black and Zamasu fusing. The Potara are right there. It'll be kind of weird if they're defeated without getting to fuse for a final power up.
namekiansaiyan wrote:What the titles actually mean:

Episode 62: Trunks gets beat up by Black for the third time in this arc and starts being emotional. Vegeta steps in all arrogant.

Episode 63: Vegeta thinks Black got lucky last time, consequently gets beat up again by Black and has one of his sulks. Goku gets prepared to fight Black for the third time and thinks he knows how to beat him.

This arc is just a bunch of constant rematch fights and is the definition of boring. This is what happens when you have such few characters on each side.

The next arc needs to hurry up now. I am also probably the only person here who likes the tournament arc more at this stage.
You're forgetting Zamasu. Trunks could get a power up against Black or Zamasu, and then the next episode focuses on Vegeta facing the other one, rather than it indicating that Trunks already lost and Vegeta has to step in (which would soon be followed by Goku stepping in for a defeated Vegeta anyway...).

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Post by nite_jay » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:19 pm

Vegeta beating Black would be kinda unnecessary. Him beating Black would be worse than Goku beating Black imo. Just have Trunks take him out or something.

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Post by namekiansaiyan » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:29 pm

Neon Z wrote:I wonder if there's any chance we'd get Black and Zamasu fusing. The Potara are right there. It'll be kind of weird if they're defeated without getting to fuse for a final power up.
namekiansaiyan wrote:What the titles actually mean:

Episode 62: Trunks gets beat up by Black for the third time in this arc and starts being emotional. Vegeta steps in all arrogant.

Episode 63: Vegeta thinks Black got lucky last time, consequently gets beat up again by Black and has one of his sulks. Goku gets prepared to fight Black for the third time and thinks he knows how to beat him.

This arc is just a bunch of constant rematch fights and is the definition of boring. This is what happens when you have such few characters on each side.

The next arc needs to hurry up now. I am also probably the only person here who likes the tournament arc more at this stage.
You're forgetting Zamasu. Trunks could get a power up against Black or Zamasu, and then the next episode focuses on Vegeta facing the other one, rather than it indicating that Trunks already lost and Vegeta has to step in (which would soon be followed by Goku stepping in for a defeated Vegeta anyway...).
I don't see 2 fights happening at the same time. Trunks might get a power up but probably won't be enough.

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Post by TheMikado » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:34 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Cabba might be new character by default but he is basically Gohan and most importantly he is just another Saiyan so to me he is not fresh. Hit, Magetta, Beerus/Champa, Whis/Vados, Botamo and Jaco all new races with new personalities which I want from Super and that is why I like them and not Cabba.
Let me decipher this correctly. All the Saiyans from Z are fine, but any Saiyans they introduce in Super are unacceptable and boring?
Cabba is actually incredibly boring. The problem is he shouldn't be. He has all Vegetas moves, the first Saiyan ever of his universe to go SSJ and was specifically selected as the only Saiyan in the in multi universe tournaments and we know absolutely nothing about him, his planet, or his parents. It would be interesting if we found out he is actually a Saiyan Prince like Vegeta and that's why his power level is so high and was selected to represent his universe, as is stand now his name may as well be Generic Saiyan #1....

If they never flesh out his character and what Saiyan s were like in his universe it will be a HUGE wasted opportunity.

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Post by kinisking » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:38 pm

TheMikado wrote:
Anime Kitten wrote:
namekiansaiyan wrote:Cabba might be new character by default but he is basically Gohan and most importantly he is just another Saiyan so to me he is not fresh. Hit, Magetta, Beerus/Champa, Whis/Vados, Botamo and Jaco all new races with new personalities which I want from Super and that is why I like them and not Cabba.
Let me decipher this correctly. All the Saiyans from Z are fine, but any Saiyans they introduce in Super are unacceptable and boring?
Cabba is actually incredibly boring. The problem is he shouldn't be. He has all Vegetas moves, the first Saiyan ever of his universe to go SSJ and was specifically selected as the only Saiyan in the in multi universe tournaments and we know absolutely nothing about him, his planet, or his parents. It would be interesting if we found out he is actually a Saiyan Prince like Vegeta and that's why his power level is so high and was selected to represent his universe, as is stand now his name may as well be Generic Saiyan #1....

If they never flesh out his character and what Saiyan s were like in his universe it will be a HUGE wasted opportunity.
Right now he seems like a watered down Gohan. He has potential though
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Post by kinisking » Fri Sep 23, 2016 5:41 pm

I'm so excited for these episodes. This arc is amazing.
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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Sep 23, 2016 6:07 pm

Man, I really hope's Future Trunks "Super Power" is referring to him getting a God power-up of some sort. Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue, I don't care which one, just give that guy a break have him among the elites of Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Whis etc. And Vegeta being in the spotlight again is... alright, I suppose. I have nothing against it.

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Post by LightBing » Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:04 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Man, I really hope's Future Trunks "Super Power" is referring to him getting a God power-up of some sort. Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue, I don't care which one, just give that guy a break have him among the elites of Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Whis etc. And Vegeta being in the spotlight again is... alright, I suppose. I have nothing against it.
Why does Future Trunks need a break? He's the main character of this arc, he's the only one besides Goku to appear in all episodes. He's had a bunch of fight's, huge focus, he didn't even needed any God form to participate in the fight against Black and Zamasu.
Future Trunks is getting all the love.

Hopefully that trickles down to other characters in the next arc, since I assume this one will be his last appearance ever, specially with the whole time-traveling illegality.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:09 pm

LightBing wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:Man, I really hope's Future Trunks "Super Power" is referring to him getting a God power-up of some sort. Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan Blue, I don't care which one, just give that guy a break have him among the elites of Goku, Vegeta, Beerus, Whis etc. And Vegeta being in the spotlight again is... alright, I suppose. I have nothing against it.
Why does Future Trunks need a break? He's the main character of this arc, he's the only one besides Goku to appear in all episodes. He's had a bunch of fight's, huge focus, he didn't even needed any God form to participate in the fight against Black and Zamasu.
Future Trunks is getting all the love.

Hopefully that trickles down to other characters in the next arc, since I assume this one will be his last appearance ever, specially with the whole time-traveling illegality.
I meant, "need a break" in terms of his story getting an actual happy ending, instead of what seems to be an almost infinite cycle of hope and despair.

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Post by FortuneSSJ » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:16 pm

I'm having a hard time believing that Toei seems to be missing the gold opportunity of doing a OVA about FT Trunks Buu arc
A lot of people want that, now more than ever after Toyotaro's version came out. With no new One Piece or DB Movie on the horizon, they should focus on that.
LightBing wrote: Hopefully that trickles down to other characters in the next arc, since I assume this one will be his last appearance ever, specially with the whole time-traveling illegality.
Don't worry. If Toriyama/Toei want to bring him back again one day, they will find a way no matter what.
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Post by Xeztin » Fri Sep 23, 2016 8:40 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:I'm having a hard time believing that Toei seems to be missing the gold opportunity of doing a OVA about FT Trunks Buu arc
A lot of people want that, now more than ever after Toyotaro's version came out. With no new One Piece or DB Movie on the horizon, they should focus on that.
LightBing wrote: Hopefully that trickles down to other characters in the next arc, since I assume this one will be his last appearance ever, specially with the whole time-traveling illegality.
Don't worry. If Toriyama/Toei want to bring him back again one day, they will find a way no matter what.
I'm assuming FT will visit on a regular basis if he doesn't decide to stay.

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