Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

[ConfusedPhantom]

Do you not think that, if MasakoX was playing Goku in the series proper, that he couldn't simply tone down the parodic nature of his current performance and be a perfect Goku? I think he could.

He definitely could. Did it for the little fandubs he was in, and it was pretty surprising how different it was. Same voice, though.

While MasakoX is my favorite English Goku, I don't really mind Sean Schemmel at all, and I thought he stepped up his game a little in the clips that were shown.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I've never had a problem with King Kai's voice. Yeah he doesn't sound like Kaio. They're two different takes on the character and I enjoy both.

Agreed. On one hand you've got the serious Kaioh voice and on the other, you've got the goofy Kaioh voice. I like them both and neither really gets on my nerves about being out of character because as you said, they're two different takes on it.


If I was doing my own dub and had to pick which type of voice he should have, I'd choose the goofy voice because that just looks like the type of voice he should have.

[jjgp1112]

As the kids on 4chan say:

>>Implying Ian Corlett and Sean Schemmel are better than Peter Kelamis or MasakoX

Oh, you card. Ian Corlett and Sean Schemmel's Gokus are both in a similar vein: stiff, and uncomfortable to listen to, but Corlett has more personality in his Goku. Neither of them have the charm that Kelamis or MasakoX bring to the role. They capture the spirit of the character, rather than just the role of "hero of the story".

MasakoX's is especially brimming with Goku's energy. He's almost perfect.

But I guess if you've been sold on the dub version of Goku for so long, you begin to think that's really what he's like as a character, the type of character Sean Schemmel's voice IS appropriate for. But that's not Goku.

And there you go with this crap again, about how people who like Schemmel's voice know nothing about Goku. Get off your high horse.

[dan2026]

Guys if you don't really care for Schemmel (like me), just watch the original version.
Problem solved.

[penguintruth]

Guys if you don't really care for Schemmel (like me), just watch the original version.
Problem solved.

I'm fine watching the Japanese version, but I also want to watch a good version in the language I speak, which is English. And I'd to think the show is being represented well in the dub, or the show itself looks bad.

Anyway, like I've been saying, the Kai dub looks fairly promising, but I still don't think Schemmel is quite right for Goku. I'll probably be able to tolerate him now that he's not as cringeworthy, but I can't see (or hear, rather) how anyone would associate his voice with Goku, except out of habit. He's really not voicing that character.

[jjgp1112]

See, why do you constantly assert what you're saying as fact? You seem to not be able to fathom that some people just see it differently from you.

[Big Momma]

>>Implying Ian Corlett and Sean Schemmel are better than Peter Kelamis or MasakoX

Only use one arrow when you're quoting someone.

[Goku100xKamehameha]

I made Kai third opening with Funi's Z Kai opening dub song

[Cipher]

I swear to god, this discussion of Goku's English voice actors has to be one of the most blisteringly irritating things I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Seems to me that every time things have almost become fair or reasonable again, penguintruth has to come back with a, "No. Only I understand the character. Never mind that you're as familiar with the property as I am." Not to say that all sides haven't been continuing the conversation to my great chagrin.

No one gives a fuck who your favorite English Goku is. Schemmel is the one voicing him in the English Kai. I came to this thread looking for more evidence and review of his overall performance in this dub, not on what minute and extremely subjective character details he captures vs other interpretations. And I came to see that information relayed in a manner which, at the very most, displays only the arrogance of a normal human being.

Damn.

[Rory]

I swear to god, this discussion of Goku's English voice actors has to be one of the most blisteringly irritating things I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Seems to me that every time things have almost become fair or reasonable again, penguintruth has to come back with a, "No. Only I understand the character. Never mind that you're as familiar with the property as I am." Not to say that all sides haven't been continuing the conversation to my great chagrin.

No one gives a fuck who your favorite English Goku is. Schemmel is the one voicing him in the English Kai. I came to this thread looking for more evidence and review of his overall performance in this dub, not on what minute and extremely subjective character details he captures vs other interpretations. And I came to see that information relayed in a manner which, at the very most, displays only the arrogance of a normal human being.

Damn.

My thoughts exactly. Dragon Ball Z is finally getting a dub with sticks very closely to the original script (a lot more than other dubs can say, even the great ones), and all fans can do is find something else to bitch about. It's making a lot of recasts, and (if the rumors are true) it's putting something out there for the fans of the original to love as well. It's trying it's damn best to appeal to everyone. Yet here we are again.
It's fucking pathetic, this is the first time I've felt embarrassed to be a part of this fan-base since the day I found this message board.

[Kendamu]

I swear to god, this discussion of Goku's English voice actors has to be one of the most blisteringly irritating things I have ever had the displeasure of reading. Seems to me that every time things have almost become fair or reasonable again, penguintruth has to come back with a, "No. Only I understand the character. Never mind that you're as familiar with the property as I am." Not to say that all sides haven't been continuing the conversation to my great chagrin.

No one gives a fuck who your favorite English Goku is. Schemmel is the one voicing him in the English Kai. I came to this thread looking for more evidence and review of his overall performance in this dub, not on what minute and extremely subjective character details he captures vs other interpretations. And I came to see that information relayed in a manner which, at the very most, displays only the arrogance of a normal human being.

Damn.

Everyone seems to be forgetting that ever since penguintruth pissed off Schemmel he's been giving Schemmel even more shit on the forums than he had before as if he were proud of it or something. You guys might wanna take that into consideration next time you decide to get mad at penguintruth. Really, it's not about you!

In other news, I quoted this post because I pretty much agree with it, minus people taking penguintruth so seriously.



I'm bolding usernames because it's seemingly becoming the norm.

[DemonRin]

Recently, and I don't remember who exactly posted it, but someone likened Penguintruth's constant Schemmel-hating to Raditz' "OH NO MY SPACE POD! OH NO MY SPACE ARMOR!" and I think that post was pretty much dead-on.

We get it Penguintruth, you're from space, and you don't like Schemmel. Please move onto another topic...

Now about Dragon Ball Kai. That's some faster-paced and better-dubbed show now isn't it?

[VegettoEX]

This thread is specifically about FUNimation's English dub of DragonBall Kai.

If there is something else any of you would like to discuss, I recommend and encourage you to do it in a new thread, or if it warrants it, via personal messages. Thanks.

[Sprite Satan]

This thread is specifically about FUNimation's English dub of DragonBall Kai.

If there is something else any of you would like to discuss, I recommend and encourage you to do it in a new thread, or if it warrants it, via personal messages. Thanks.

I may as well ask this then... is criticism of Sean Schemmel's voice work for Dragon Ball Kai, and comparing it with his past Dragon Ball voice work and that of other English voice actors for Goku and expressing personal opinions on such on topic enough for this thread?

[VegettoEX]

This thread is specifically about FUNimation's English dub of DragonBall Kai.

If there is something else any of you would like to discuss, I recommend and encourage you to do it in a new thread, or if it warrants it, via personal messages. Thanks.

I may as well ask this then... is criticism of Sean Schemmel's voice work for Dragon Ball Kai, and comparing it with his past Dragon Ball voice work and that of other English voice actors for Goku and expressing personal opinions on such on topic enough for this thread?

So long as going forward there is legitimate conversation relating to (and primarily focused around) FUNimation's English dub of DragonBall Kai, the admins and moderators have no problem with it.

So, yes!

[ohaimynameiserik]

Change the record, penguintruth.

But about the KAI dub, I've watched volume 1 a couple times now and all actors (including Schemmel) have shown massive improvement, and not one character's voice is "cringeworthy". Well, maybe Freeza's laugh in the beginning, but that's it. It isn't just the script that makes them sound better, they're very believable to hear.

I thought I was going to hate Kaio as usual, but it's hard to since he's so hilarious now.

I can't believe you all haven't pre-ordered it yet. DO IT. DO IT NOW!!

I seriously cannot wait until September.

[JulieYBM]

I think I finally found the words to describe what I (myself, personally) dislike about Schemmel's Gokû. Naturally, his voice is 'rough'. When trying to play Gokû, however, he tries to soften and lighten his voice, however the strain becomes noticeably. That strain lessens the performance, even in Kai, and it grates terribly on my ears. I just cannot stand to listen to it, espicially when he's trying to fluctuate his voice while reading off different lines. Consistently I get flashbacks to the battle with #19 where he talks smack about the Artificial Humans knowin' nothin' 'bout his power.

Kelamis didn't quite have this issue in the films, although he would get pretty nassily. MasakoX, however--despite hiding an accent--manages to speak with ease, warmth, and the cheer of Gokû. It helps he draws on the positive aspects of all the different Gokûs he's studied, though. I'm really looking forward to his Super Saiyan Gokû and how he handles the character there.

Wait, how'd this turn into a MasakoX rally? Er...


...hey look, they're using Makankô-sappô in the Kai dub!!


Whatever happened to that audio request I made for Makankô-sappô, Tanooki?

[Vegeta Jr]

I think Schemmel has come a long way, heck I think the transformation scene (Freeza fight) in Burst Limit was done better in English than Japanese. In fact the entire battle was.

Anyway, anyone got any clips or soundbites or heck an opinion on the new Gohan?

[Tanooki Kuribo]

Whatever happened to that audio request I made for Makankô-sappô, Tanooki?

You did? Sorry, I probley didn't see it... Well here ya go, oh and I threw in all the next episode preview audio from episode 2 on (the second batch has higher volume, oops that was my fault). In about two or three weeks these will be deleted.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4AhFAYkR9w

[Blue]

I think the reason more people are being "nit picky" (including myself) is because we are SO close to having a great modern day DBZ dub. If it wasn't for old dub terminology and inappropriate voices we'd be set. Normally I wouldn't care as much but Dragon Ball is the only anime I'm super invested in.

Still leaps and bounds better then the Z dub and for that I applaud them. I just wish we could get a One Piece quality dub for one of my favorite anime.

On an unrelated note, didn't they make a "going to Hell" joke in the old dub? Something like "Hey Goku I need you to go to Hell." and Goku responds with "Well that's not very nice!" Maybe I'm going insane.