"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:53 pm

I just noticed something, we toyotaro/manga supporters are like a fusion of the pride troopers and sayains. Yeah you saw that right. We all believe that toyotRo manga is far better then the anime (all pride troopers believe in Justice). But also like the pride troopers, we have differnt beliefs of why toyotaro manga is good. And how we are like the sayains is that we are all so individualistic (which isn't a problem for me). Lie anime fans will defend the anime as a team. If someone says something to defend toei, the other guys will either not say anything or show support for the guy who defended toei or add on to what he said. While us Toyo fans will respond to the same guy with our ow. Opinions. I' mean, literally me, bergamo, TKA, Marlowe (your goku black icon was better btw),prince vegeta and the ssj goku guy all responded to the same post with our own opinions. Hahaha
Idk, basically what I'm saying is us toyotaro fans are:
We all come together to defend toyotaro manga and promote it as good
We all have differnt reasons for liking it and we don't all like the same things of it
We debate as if we are the only ones debating while anime fans debate as a team
I just found that funny, maybe I'm generializing anime supports for super...idk. I guess we toyotaro fans are so used to being outnumbered by anime troopers that we just instinctvly debate alone and don't rely on each other even if they are right there.
Again, I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all. Just an observation, besides I think it's a good thing because it's makes us more battle ready to go into hostile debates if you're like fending off 3 or more anime fans. That's why I don't personally see many anime fans try to go to manga territory and debate (except that pokesarus or whatever his name is of whom we all replied too). Anime fans prefer to debate when they see they have backing. They usually don't go alone, and if they see they are alone they back out of debate immediately. While us Toyo fans are more prone to not shy away from taking on anime fans without much or any backing or support. that's just my personal observation

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Post by Noah » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:05 pm

^ Sure, but you really need to post all that in bold? :|
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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:06 pm

Noah wrote:^ Sure, but you really need to post all that in bold? :|
Got to get their attention somehow. :D
Becuase unlike anime fans, we toyotaro fans usally don't have much interest in seeing what fellow like-minds have to say since we already agree with the general point of what they are trying to argue for, nor do we need their opinions to help our argument. At least that's the vibe I get.
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Post by Miracles » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:09 pm

TKA wrote:No, I'm not going to sit here and nitpick your choice of example. Yes, I have no doubt that these moments pulled on the heartstrings—that's what they're designed to do. However, I don't find these things compelling when they're being delivered by characters who have no business doing so. It's about as effective as Pee Wee Herman delivering an anti-drug PSA.
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Post by Omniboy » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:19 pm

1345521 wrote:I just noticed something, we toyotaro/manga supporters are like a fusion of the pride troopers and sayains. Yeah you saw that right. We all believe that toyotRo manga is far better then the anime (all pride troopers believe in Justice). But also like the pride troopers, we have differnt beliefs of why toyotaro manga is good. And how we are like the sayains is that we are all so individualistic (which isn't a problem for me). Lie anime fans will defend the anime as a team. If someone says something to defend toei, the other guys will either not say anything or show support for the guy who defended toei or add on to what he said. While us Toyo fans will respond to the same guy with our ow. Opinions. I' mean, literally me, bergamo, TKA, Marlowe (your goku black icon was better btw),prince vegeta and the ssj goku guy all responded to the same post with our own opinions. Hahaha
Idk, basically what I'm saying is us toyotaro fans are:
We all come together to defend toyotaro manga and promote it as good
We all have differnt reasons for liking it and we don't all like the same things of it
We debate as if we are the only ones debating while anime fans debate as a team
I just found that funny, maybe I'm generializing anime supports for super...idk. I guess we toyotaro fans are so used to being outnumbered by anime troopers that we just instinctvly debate alone and don't rely on each other even if they are right there.
Again, I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all. Just an observation, besides I think it's a good thing because it's makes us more battle ready to go into hostile debates if you're like fending off 3 or more anime fans. That's why I don't personally see many anime fans try to go to manga territory and debate (except that pokesarus or whatever his name is of whom we all replied too). Anime fans prefer to debate when they see they have backing. They usually don't go alone, and if they see they are alone they back out of debate immediately. While us Toyo fans are more prone to not shy away from taking on anime fans without much or any backing or support. that's just my personal observation
Please don't start this. There are already enough anti-manga and anti-anime flame wars out, there is no need for this. Don't make it more annoying than it already is. Please.
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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:20 pm

Omniboy wrote:
1345521 wrote:I just noticed something, we toyotaro/manga supporters are like a fusion of the pride troopers and sayains. Yeah you saw that right. We all believe that toyotRo manga is far better then the anime (all pride troopers believe in Justice). But also like the pride troopers, we have differnt beliefs of why toyotaro manga is good. And how we are like the sayains is that we are all so individualistic (which isn't a problem for me). Lie anime fans will defend the anime as a team. If someone says something to defend toei, the other guys will either not say anything or show support for the guy who defended toei or add on to what he said. While us Toyo fans will respond to the same guy with our ow. Opinions. I' mean, literally me, bergamo, TKA, Marlowe (your goku black icon was better btw),prince vegeta and the ssj goku guy all responded to the same post with our own opinions. Hahaha
Idk, basically what I'm saying is us toyotaro fans are:
We all come together to defend toyotaro manga and promote it as good
We all have differnt reasons for liking it and we don't all like the same things of it
We debate as if we are the only ones debating while anime fans debate as a team
I just found that funny, maybe I'm generializing anime supports for super...idk. I guess we toyotaro fans are so used to being outnumbered by anime troopers that we just instinctvly debate alone and don't rely on each other even if they are right there.
Again, I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all. Just an observation, besides I think it's a good thing because it's makes us more battle ready to go into hostile debates if you're like fending off 3 or more anime fans. That's why I don't personally see many anime fans try to go to manga territory and debate (except that pokesarus or whatever his name is of whom we all replied too). Anime fans prefer to debate when they see they have backing. They usually don't go alone, and if they see they are alone they back out of debate immediately. While us Toyo fans are more prone to not shy away from taking on anime fans without much or any backing or support. that's just my personal observation
What?
:| Whats the problem?

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Post by Omniboy » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:22 pm

1345521 wrote:

:| Whats the problem?
I just edited the comment.

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Post by prince212 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:24 pm

TKA wrote: In the manga, Gowasu believed in Zamas so much that he approached him and begged him to change his ways, getting impaled through the stomach for it. In the manga, he sees his failings as a teacher and acts to fix those errors. In the anime, he sits in the background drinking tea and godtubing.
In addition to that , u10 elimination in this chapter 38 keep on that well done characterization of GOwasu . Some say they don’t feel nothing about the erase of the universes defeated,but that one was perfectly done in just 4 panels .
U3 elimination didn’t make me feel anything, but .. does robots have feelings ?
It was as if a whole lot of people ...were screaming in pain....

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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:29 pm

Omniboy wrote:
1345521 wrote:I just noticed something, we toyotaro/manga supporters are like a fusion of the pride troopers and sayains. Yeah you saw that right. We all believe that toyotRo manga is far better then the anime (all pride troopers believe in Justice). But also like the pride troopers, we have differnt beliefs of why toyotaro manga is good. And how we are like the sayains is that we are all so individualistic (which isn't a problem for me). Lie anime fans will defend the anime as a team. If someone says something to defend toei, the other guys will either not say anything or show support for the guy who defended toei or add on to what he said. While us Toyo fans will respond to the same guy with our ow. Opinions. I' mean, literally me, bergamo, TKA, Marlowe (your goku black icon was better btw),prince vegeta and the ssj goku guy all responded to the same post with our own opinions. Hahaha
Idk, basically what I'm saying is us toyotaro fans are:
We all come together to defend toyotaro manga and promote it as good
We all have differnt reasons for liking it and we don't all like the same things of it
We debate as if we are the only ones debating while anime fans debate as a team
I just found that funny, maybe I'm generializing anime supports for super...idk. I guess we toyotaro fans are so used to being outnumbered by anime troopers that we just instinctvly debate alone and don't rely on each other even if they are right there.
Again, I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all. Just an observation, besides I think it's a good thing because it's makes us more battle ready to go into hostile debates if you're like fending off 3 or more anime fans. That's why I don't personally see many anime fans try to go to manga territory and debate (except that pokesarus or whatever his name is of whom we all replied too). Anime fans prefer to debate when they see they have backing. They usually don't go alone, and if they see they are alone they back out of debate immediately. While us Toyo fans are more prone to not shy away from taking on anime fans without much or any backing or support. that's just my personal observation
Please don't start this. There are already enough anti-manga and anti-anime flame wars out, there is no need for this. Don't make it more annoying than it already is. Please.
I'm just stating my observation. Not trying to flame anyone. Alright I said "anime troopers", fine i'll call us manga fans um......hm......manga warriors? Manga ....... uh..... MANGA CALVARY! :lol:

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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:31 pm

Omniboy wrote:
1345521 wrote:

:| Whats the problem?
I just edited the comment.
You know what, I guess I was wrong. Just saw two fellow toyo supporters literally ADD ON and support another one.
Well hey, tried to create a scinetific hypothesis, Got debunked.
My hypothesis and observation = :thumbdown:

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Post by Bergamo » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:48 pm

1345521 wrote:
Omniboy wrote:
1345521 wrote:I just noticed something, we toyotaro/manga supporters are like a fusion of the pride troopers and sayains. Yeah you saw that right. We all believe that toyotRo manga is far better then the anime (all pride troopers believe in Justice). But also like the pride troopers, we have differnt beliefs of why toyotaro manga is good. And how we are like the sayains is that we are all so individualistic (which isn't a problem for me). Lie anime fans will defend the anime as a team. If someone says something to defend toei, the other guys will either not say anything or show support for the guy who defended toei or add on to what he said. While us Toyo fans will respond to the same guy with our ow. Opinions. I' mean, literally me, bergamo, TKA, Marlowe (your goku black icon was better btw),prince vegeta and the ssj goku guy all responded to the same post with our own opinions. Hahaha
Idk, basically what I'm saying is us toyotaro fans are:
We all come together to defend toyotaro manga and promote it as good
We all have differnt reasons for liking it and we don't all like the same things of it
We debate as if we are the only ones debating while anime fans debate as a team
I just found that funny, maybe I'm generializing anime supports for super...idk. I guess we toyotaro fans are so used to being outnumbered by anime troopers that we just instinctvly debate alone and don't rely on each other even if they are right there.
Again, I'm not saying this is a bad thing at all. Just an observation, besides I think it's a good thing because it's makes us more battle ready to go into hostile debates if you're like fending off 3 or more anime fans. That's why I don't personally see many anime fans try to go to manga territory and debate (except that pokesarus or whatever his name is of whom we all replied too). Anime fans prefer to debate when they see they have backing. They usually don't go alone, and if they see they are alone they back out of debate immediately. While us Toyo fans are more prone to not shy away from taking on anime fans without much or any backing or support. that's just my personal observation
Please don't start this. There are already enough anti-manga and anti-anime flame wars out, there is no need for this. Don't make it more annoying than it already is. Please.
I'm just stating my observation. Not trying to flame anyone. Alright I said "anime troopers", fine i'll call us manga fans um......hm......manga warriors? Manga ....... uh..... MANGA CALVARY! :lol:
There's no need for juvenile nicknames. You'll find it's quite nice here for the most part. Kanzenshuu isn't a anime vs manga battlefront like the YouTube comment section.
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Post by 1345521 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:09 pm

Bergamo wrote:
1345521 wrote:
Omniboy wrote:
Please don't start this. There are already enough anti-manga and anti-anime flame wars out, there is no need for this. Don't make it more annoying than it already is. Please.
I'm just stating my observation. Not trying to flame anyone. Alright I said "anime troopers", fine i'll call us manga fans um......hm......manga warriors? Manga ....... uh..... MANGA CALVARY! :lol:
There's no need for juvenile nicknames. You'll find it's quite nice here for the most part. Kanzenshuu isn't a anime vs manga battlefront like the YouTube comment section.
Hmph, yeah? Well I don't see it. I see the same commenters who defend the manga, and see the same commenters who defend the anime square up every month, here. And then the you have the independent/lean manga or anime people. The differnce is people on youtube are usually more rude and it's harder to actually devolpe intelligible debates since one party is more focused on trolling for one side instead of debating which I why I left after being on that community (db) since 2015. Others was this one guy, HOTCHEETOJUICD. HE WAS THEE MOST TOXIC PERSON IN EXISTENCE. Okay okay, this (Aw shoot, I remember the mods told someone you can't bad mouth another community)... Uh nvm. IGNORE everything I just said, the youtube community is fine.

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Post by PFM18 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:12 am

1345521 wrote:(Aw shoot, I remember the mods told someone you can't bad mouth another community)
You know you can just ed it that out if you are concerned with getting in trouble for it right?

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Post by 1345521 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:34 am

PFM18 wrote:
1345521 wrote:(Aw shoot, I remember the mods told someone you can't bad mouth another community)
You know you can just ed it that out if you are concerned with getting in trouble for it right?
Lol. Yeah I take back a lot of what I said. I was just a little too excitited, not often do I see many people like and defend toyotaro at the level of which I do. On youtube, I'm usually a lone wolf or I'm usually surrounded by a few guys who make poor discussion points when debating for the manga, so that's why I said all of things. I let my excitement get the better of me. Oh well, learn and improve.

But to answer your suggestion, "That won't be neccessary" (- Jiren).

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Post by TKA » Mon Jul 30, 2018 8:49 am

1345521 wrote: We all come together to defend toyotaro manga and promote it as good
We all have differnt reasons for liking it and we don't all like the same things of it
Slow your roll there.

This isn't an "us" vs "them" thing. I'm not fighting some kind of war. This is a silly internet forum where people come together and talk about a silly franchise they like. I enjoy the manga, and find most arguments against it frivolous: that's all.
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Post by 1345521 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:12 am

TKA wrote:
1345521 wrote: We all come together to defend toyotaro manga and promote it as good
We all have differnt reasons for liking it and we don't all like the same things of it
Slow your roll there.

This isn't an "us" vs "them" thing. I'm not fighting some kind of war. This is a silly internet forum where people come together and talk about a silly franchise they like. I enjoy the manga, and find most arguments against it frivolous: that's all.
Yeah yeah, got you. I'm just going to delete a lot of the comments anyway. Let the excitement get to my head, that's all.

Edit: NANI!? I can't delete my former post? What the heck is this?

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:01 am

HeroR wrote:
Miracles wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Except the manga fails at even that in the manga. It has done nothing to make me care if U7 is erased. So far, I care as much for U7 in the manga as U3. Complete indifference.

It’s the same feeling Toyo gave me when he erased Future Trunks’ timeline. In the anime, I still get sadden seeing how Trunks and Mai reacted to what happened. In the manga, I honestly don’t care, especially since the Turks and Mai don’t seem to either.
You are saying that you don't care for characters that you spent all of DB's story coming to know and still feel nothing for them in it's sequel; Super? :lol:
A story needs more than ‘you follow them for a long time’ to make people care. Otherwise you get Designated Hero. So no, I really don’t care about U7 since Toyo just assumes that I should, which is horrible writing.
This. I don’t care about anyone in the manga. It’s so lifeless.

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Post by 1345521 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 10:18 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:
HeroR wrote:
Miracles wrote: You are saying that you don't care for characters that you spent all of DB's story coming to know and still feel nothing for them in it's sequel; Super? :lol:
A story needs more than ‘you follow them for a long time’ to make people care. Otherwise you get Designated Hero. So no, I really don’t care about U7 since Toyo just assumes that I should, which is horrible writing.
This. I don’t care about anyone in the manga. It’s so lifeless.
Says you, because I don't care about anyone in the anime since they all lack any sort of interesting character, they just look like a one demsnional parody of themselves.
I mean look at all the people the manga has done better in character/shine:
Goku
Vegeta
Berrus
Jiren
Belmod
Quitella
Liquir
Rumishi
Heles
Zeno
Toppo
Gohan
Kale
Cabba
Frost
Supreme gowasu
Pride troopers

And IMO, I like the character takes on these people better in the manga:
Goku black
Merged zamsu
Piccolo
Kuririn
Hit
Cuailifa
Dyspo
Trunks

And even people I left off like 18and anirza. At least 18 didn't "role her ankle" (LOOOOOOL) and and how does fusing a scientist with robots make you into a brute beast? What? Trash. In the manga at least he was intelligible (though he did get wasted in the manga IK).

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Post by 1345521 » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:00 am

VegettoEX wrote:1345521, your posts here and elsewhere across the forum (specifically this sub-form) at best do not live up to the spirit of the community guidelines, and at worst are wholly inappropriate.

This is a free warning; further infractions will be lodged as account strikes. These add up to temporary/permanent bans, which revoke access to the entirety of the Kanzenshuu website.

All would do well to review the aforementioned rules.
Thanks, I read the rules and I don't understand what I did wrong. May you please show me what post are innaproaite?
And sorry, I'll try to improve my behavior.

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