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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:35 pm

DragonBallKing wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
Robo4900 wrote:Yeah.

Although, as a side-note, I'd like to add that in my opinion, the majority of the problem with Kaio's voice is the way Schemmel plays it; I always thought Don Brown's Kaio voice from the Ocean dub, despite being very similar to Sean Schemmel's, is actually a lot better, and lacks many of Schemmel's interpretation's failings.
I think most people, even the ones who prefer the Funimation dub, would agree with you that Brown's Kaio is far better than Schemmel's. Schemmel is getting better as Goku, but as Kaio, no.
Doesn't have shit on Malaysian Kaio though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiCUeJ7d_MU sheer perfection. I'm SRS he does have a good voice.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:47 pm

Kanassa wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: I think most people, even the ones who prefer the Funimation dub, would agree with you that Brown's Kaio is far better than Schemmel's. Schemmel is getting better as Goku, but as Kaio, no.
Doesn't have shit on Malaysian Kaio though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiCUeJ7d_MU sheer perfection. I'm SRS he does have a good voice.
I'm getting 'Hercules in New York' flash backs!
Arnie was so bad in that film.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Kanassa » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:04 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote: Doesn't have shit on Malaysian Kaio though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiCUeJ7d_MU sheer perfection. I'm SRS he does have a good voice.
I'm getting 'Hercules in New York' flash backs!
Arnie was so bad in that film.
So bad they dubbed over him.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

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8000 Saiyan wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: I think most people, even the ones who prefer the Funimation dub, would agree with you that Brown's Kaio is far better than Schemmel's. Schemmel is getting better as Goku, but as Kaio, no.
Doesn't have shit on Malaysian Kaio though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiCUeJ7d_MU sheer perfection. I'm SRS he does have a good voice.
I love the Malaysian dub. So bad, yet so funny...
Sean's Kaiō, Todd's #19 and Martin's Fat Boo are still Miscasted voices of Kai. at present moment only Bang Zoom have a good Kaiō voice .
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Fri Sep 29, 2017 7:59 pm

Merchandise, $$$ and editorial control being used as a scapegoat to blame anything modern DB does wrong. Also "creativy freedom" (or something similar) to praise anything old DB did right, specially with certain purist users here.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:34 am

Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote: Doesn't have shit on Malaysian Kaio though, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiCUeJ7d_MU sheer perfection. I'm SRS he does have a good voice.
I love the Malaysian dub. So bad, yet so funny...
Sean's Kaiō, Todd's #19 and Martin's Fat Boo are still Miscasted voices of Kai. at present moment only Bang Zoom have a good Kaiō voice .
Honestly all English voices for Android 19 suck.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

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8000 Saiyan wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: I love the Malaysian dub. So bad, yet so funny...
Sean's Kaiō, Todd's #19 and Martin's Fat Boo are still Miscasted voices of Kai. at present moment only Bang Zoom have a good Kaiō voice .
Honestly all English voices for Android 19 suck.
:eh: Okay I thought Todd was decent, so who would you pick to voice him mr casting director?
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 2:42 am

DragonBallKing wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote: Sean's Kaiō, Todd's #19 and Martin's Fat Boo are still Miscasted voices of Kai. at present moment only Bang Zoom have a good Kaiō voice .
Honestly all English voices for Android 19 suck.
:eh: Okay I thought Todd was decent, so who would you pick to voice him mr casting director?
Someone who could sound similar to his Japanese voice.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Ripper 30 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:35 am

8000 Saiyan wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: Honestly all English voices for Android 19 suck.
:eh: Okay I thought Todd was decent, so who would you pick to voice him mr casting director?
Someone who could sound similar to his Japanese voice.
They should have gone with the way Japanese version did, he sounds like a male still monotonous like a Robot even tfs got it right but in official dub its cringy and unfitting still on internet most people prefer Kaiō, Boo and #19 in FUNimation dub.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:05 am

Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote: :eh: Okay I thought Todd was decent, so who would you pick to voice him mr casting director?
Someone who could sound similar to his Japanese voice.
They should have gone with the way Japanese version did, he sounds like a male still monotonous like a Robot even tfs got it right but in official dub its cringy and unfitting still on internet most people prefer Kaiō, Boo and #19 in FUNimation dub.
Not a big fan of TFS, but I have to agree that they did 19's voice better.

Funnily enough, they did make Android 16 sound monotonous in their pre-Kai dubs.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

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8000 Saiyan wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: Someone who could sound similar to his Japanese voice.
They should have gone with the way Japanese version did, he sounds like a male still monotonous like a Robot even tfs got it right but in official dub its cringy and unfitting still on internet most people prefer Kaiō, Boo and #19 in FUNimation dub.
Not a big fan of TFS, but I have to agree that they did 19's voice better.

Funnily enough, they did make Android 16 sound monotonous in their pre-Kai dubs.
But there was still something about Japanese voice of #16 being better
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:06 pm

Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote: They should have gone with the way Japanese version did, he sounds like a male still monotonous like a Robot even tfs got it right but in official dub its cringy and unfitting still on internet most people prefer Kaiō, Boo and #19 in FUNimation dub.
Not a big fan of TFS, but I have to agree that they did 19's voice better.

Funnily enough, they did make Android 16 sound monotonous in their pre-Kai dubs.
But there was still something about Japanese voice of #16 being better
Yeah, he was more emotive.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by Ripper 30 » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:16 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: Not a big fan of TFS, but I have to agree that they did 19's voice better.

Funnily enough, they did make Android 16 sound monotonous in their pre-Kai dubs.
But there was still something about Japanese voice of #16 being better
Yeah, he was more emotive.
Specially in the scene before Gohan goes ssj2.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by DragonBallKing » Sat Sep 30, 2017 12:33 pm

Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote: :eh: Okay I thought Todd was decent, so who would you pick to voice him mr casting director?
Someone who could sound similar to his Japanese voice.
They should have gone with the way Japanese version did, he sounds like a male still monotonous like a Robot even tfs got it right but in official dub its cringy and unfitting still on internet most people prefer Kaiō, Boo and #19 in FUNimation dub.
Todd was Okay, his voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFwgTN7w7E&t=1s isn't even high pitch compared to the old 19 voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujpo9b8c9WY and Martin's fat boo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYch2PKU9l0 .
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Re: Things that grind your gears

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DragonBallKing wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote: Someone who could sound similar to his Japanese voice.
They should have gone with the way Japanese version did, he sounds like a male still monotonous like a Robot even tfs got it right but in official dub its cringy and unfitting still on internet most people prefer Kaiō, Boo and #19 in FUNimation dub.
Todd was Okay, his voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFwgTN7w7E&t=1s isn't even high pitch compared to the old 19 voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujpo9b8c9WY and Martin's fat boo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYch2PKU9l0 .
still they could have easily gone with a male Robotic voice.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:17 am

Ripper 30 wrote:
DragonBallKing wrote:
Ripper 30 wrote: They should have gone with the way Japanese version did, he sounds like a male still monotonous like a Robot even tfs got it right but in official dub its cringy and unfitting still on internet most people prefer Kaiō, Boo and #19 in FUNimation dub.
Todd was Okay, his voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYFwgTN7w7E&t=1s isn't even high pitch compared to the old 19 voice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujpo9b8c9WY and Martin's fat boo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYch2PKU9l0 .
still they could have easily gone with a male Robotic voice.
I believe Android 19 once had a filter voice in either the original dub or the remastered dub.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by DragonBallKing » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:38 pm

If you say Freeza it should be Coola.
If you say Cooler it should be Freezer.

Seeing the two mixed together bothers me :x , really petty I know but whatever :crazy:
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Post by Ripper 30 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:29 am

DragonBallKing wrote:If you say Freeza it should be Coola.
If you say Cooler it should be Freezer.

Seeing the two mixed together bothers me :x , really petty I know but whatever :crazy:
Agreed, Freezer Cooler should have been retained in the dub
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by DragonBallKing » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:05 pm

People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.
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Re: Things that grind your gears

Post by sintzu » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:28 pm

DragonBallKing wrote:People shitting on things like 4kids One Piece while at the same time being fans of old Funi DBZ dubs. In reality there not that different from each other, but one recieves much more flack than the other.
4kids went as far as to try and cut out characters from the story, What Funi did was by no means a masterpiece but it's miles ahead of what was done to One Piece.
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