The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:44 am

LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Champa talks shit about Goku and Hit. They give him that epic stare. They end the fight as usual, but they heal completely, even from the kaioken for goku. Now champa wants to kill hit and goku intervenes.

Champa VS Hit and Goku (all 3 full power)

How does it go? My money's on Champa losing.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Thu Aug 11, 2016 10:52 am

apex_pretador wrote:
LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta wrote:Champa talks shit about Goku and Hit. They give him that epic stare. They end the fight as usual, but they heal completely, even from the kaioken for goku. Now champa wants to kill hit and goku intervenes.

Champa VS Hit and Goku (all 3 full power)

How does it go? My money's on Champa losing.
See my avatar for details. Although it will be one hell of a fight.
Your avatar reminded me of that what if I had in my head. So you agree Champa would lose? I mean Whis said goku+vegeta>beerus so I don't see goku+hit losing to someone BELOW beerus. Especially with hit's improving powers and such.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:04 am

New matches:

Hypothetical Super Saiyan Piccolo (Cell Games) runs the gauntlet:

How far would he go?

- Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku

- Super Boo

- Ultimate Gohan

- Super Boo-han
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:16 pm

Noah wrote:New matches:

Hypothetical Super Saiyan Piccolo (Cell Games) runs the gauntlet:

How far would he go?

- Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku

- Super Boo

- Ultimate Gohan

- Super Boo-han
So if Piccolo got that sweet 50x increase? He'd breeze past Vegeta and Goku with no problems, but hit a wall at Evil Boo.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:44 pm

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:11 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Super Saiyan Bardock (Episode of Bardock) VS Base Goku (Namek Saga)
I assume that whatever power boost Bardock reaped from recovering from Freeza's attack wasn't much, considering it was never mentioned. Even if his power doubled, his Super Saiyan form would barely break the 1 million mark, whereas Goku is sitting pretty at 3 million in his base form. Goku stomps all over his dad and wonders about the strange man who looked like him.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pantalones » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:30 pm

Hypothetical Super Saiyan Piccolo (Cell Games) runs the gauntlet:

How far would he go?

- Super Saiyan 2 Majin Vegeta

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku

- Super Boo

- Ultimate Gohan

- Super Boo-han
Considering that Piccolo was already not too far off from SSj Vegeta and Trunks during the Cell Games... Piccolo's going to end up absurdly strong with a 50x boost on top of that level of power.

Majin Vegeta probably is only around 3 or 4 times Piccolo's "base" level (between training, the Majin boost, and the 2x boost from SSj2... he only caught up to Cell Games Gohan or maybe slightly surpassed him) so he gets destroyed effortlessly.

SSj3 Goku would only be around 12-16 times Piccolo's "base" level, since SSj2 Goku was evenly matched with Majin Vegeta and then SSj3 gives another 4x boost on top of that... so he still falls far short of "Super Saiyan Piccolo" too, and that power gap plus the SSj3 energy drain means he has absolutely no chance.

Super Buu... yeah, he's stronger than SSj3 Goku, but is he that far ahead of SSj3 Goku? There's the implication that SSj Gotenks is about as strong as SSj3 Goku, but then again, the SSj3 Goku that we saw back then was holding back (while Super Buu is definitely stronger than SSj3 Goku even at full power.) If you assume SSj Gotenks is equal to full-power SSj3 Goku, then Super Buu could be over twice as strong as "Super Saiyan Piccolo." If SSj Gotenks is somewhat weaker than full-power SSj3 Goku, Super Buu would still end up stronger than Piccolo, but not by as much. Either way it looks like "Super Saiyan Piccolo" probably doesn't get past Super Buu.

"Super Saiyan 2 Piccolo," on the other hand, would possibly beat Buu but definitely lose to Ultimate Gohan. And "Super Saiyan 3 Piccolo" of course would clear out the entire list without breaking a sweat. XD

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Who is the strongest DB character that All Might from My Hero Academia could beat?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:14 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Who is the strongest DB character that All Might from My Hero Academia could beat?
I reckon he could take on any Dragon Ball character with a BP below 131.

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Post by LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta » Thu Aug 11, 2016 6:19 pm

Anime Kitten wrote:Super Saiyan Bardock (Episode of Bardock) VS Base Goku (Namek Saga)
Bardock stomps.

I always see ssj as not only do you need a set power to achieve it, you have to get mad and have and certain base power that's at least what frieza saga goku had. I put ssj bardock either equal to or above ssj goku, most likely above because, the odds he's dead even is hard to believe.
So yeah bardock wins. He can 1 shot it. And he's a good fighter too!
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:11 pm

1) Ultimate Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Legendary Super Saiyan Broly (Movie Eight).

2) Future Trunks (After being given a Senzu Bean in his trip to the past in the Future Trunks Saga) vs. Super Vegeta (Perfect Cell Saga)

3) Super Saiyan Xeno Bardock vs. Goku Black (When he first attacked the Future Earth).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:18 pm

Thanks for the answer, DanielSSJ and great analysis Pantalones :thumbup:

New matches: (equal power, unlimited stamina)

- Beerus vs Super Boo-han

- Cabba vs Gohan

- Freeza vs Piccolo Daimao

- Hit vs Paikuhan

- Mutenroshi vs Cell

- Raditz vs Nappa
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by In Brightest Day » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:41 am

New fights:

- King Chappa vs. Chaozu (22nd Budokai).
- Bojack vs. SSJ Son Gohan (Boo arc) and Kaioshin.
- Bojack's crew (Zangya, Bujin, Gokua, Bido) vs. Kaioshin.
- Grey Boo vs. LSSJ Broli (Second Coming).
- Grey Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Gurd vs. Son Goku, Piccolo (Saiyan arc) and Nappa.
- Super Boo vs. SSJ3 Gotenks (Cell-Games Future Trunks/28th Budokai Son Goten).

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Post by Khin » Fri Aug 12, 2016 2:05 am

In Brightest Day wrote:- Grey Boo vs. LSSJ Broli (Second Coming).
- Grey Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Gurd vs. Son Goku, Piccolo (Saiyan arc) and Nappa.
- Super Boo vs. SSJ3 Gotenks (Cell-Games Future Trunks/28th Budokai Son Goten).
  • They're more or less equals. But Broli is a dumbass and would likely fall to Boo's absorption or candy beam.
  • I have Weighted Paikuhan considerably stronger than Super Perfect Cell, who i think isn't that much weaker than Grey Boo. Without weights, Paikuhan will vaporize him.
  • Unless Goku can use Kaiou-ken, they all get destroyed. Especially if they have no idea about Gurd's ablities, once Gurd will use his paralysis, they have no way of getting out, and Gurd also have the comfortable power advantage over Goku.
  • This Gotenks will end up weaker than the Gotenks in the Majin Boo Arc. However, Future Trunks will likely make this Gotenks less cocky than the other version of Gotenks. They will give Boo a lot of trouble with the Kamikazee Ghosts, but Boo's absorption and intelligence will give him the win.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Fri Aug 12, 2016 3:38 am

Steven Bloodriver wrote:1) Ultimate Gohan (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Legendary Super Saiyan Broly (Movie Eight).

2) Future Trunks (After being given a Senzu Bean in his trip to the past in the Future Trunks Saga) vs. Super Vegeta (Perfect Cell Saga)

3) Super Saiyan Xeno Bardock vs. Goku Black (When he first attacked the Future Earth).
- Broli is, at best, Perfect Cell level. Gohan splatters his legendary guts all over the battlefield.
- Are you talking about Trunks from DB Super? 'Cause if so, he smacks around Vegeta like nothing.
- Uhhhh...
In Brightest Day wrote:New fights:

- King Chappa vs. Chaozu (22nd Budokai).
- Bojack vs. SSJ Son Gohan (Boo arc) and Kaioshin.
- Bojack's crew (Zangya, Bujin, Gokua, Bido) vs. Kaioshin.
- Grey Boo vs. LSSJ Broli (Second Coming).
- Grey Boo vs. Paikuhan.
- Gurd vs. Son Goku, Piccolo (Saiyan arc) and Nappa.
- Super Boo vs. SSJ3 Gotenks (Cell-Games Future Trunks/28th Budokai Son Goten).
- Chaozu almost assuredly wins. Chappa's ridiculously strong and skilled by ordinary standards, but I get the feeling that it was his reputation that made Yamcha and the others question Goku's chances against him, rather than any firsthand knowledge. Even if Chappa is physically stronger (and that's a very big if), Chaozu's flight, Dodon Pa, and psychic powers will more than even the odds.
- Gohan's skills are very rusty and Kaioshin is just inept in general. I don't think the two of them working together would be enough to take down Bojack.
- Kaioshin is strong enough to beat them in a fair fight and probably has the mystical power to counteract the weird psychic strings that they use. It's a tough match, but I'll go with Kaioshin.
- The Boo of Pure Evil is close enough to Broli in strength that his regeneration and magical attacks let him take the advantage.
- Same as above, though Paikuhan has a better shot, seeing how he's not mentally challenged.
- Honestly, Goku is (battle)smart enough and skilled enough that he could probably take Gurd on his own, especially with the Kaioken. Adding Nappa and Piccolo assure his victory.
- If such a fusion is possible, the resulting Gotenks would be strong enough to at least match Evil Boo and wouldn't be stupid enough to goof around. Gotenks wins after a long battle.
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Polyphase Avatron wrote:Zamasu vs. Dabura
That's a tough one. They're around equal in power (since SSJ2 Goku [who fought Zamasu] fought SSJ2 Trunks [who fought Dabura]) pretty evenly, but I'd say Dabura has more skill, and he has the spit. So, Zamasu gets defeated after a reasonably short battle.
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Post by DanielSSJ » Sat Aug 13, 2016 10:36 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Zamasu vs. Dabura
Zamasu put up a fight against SS2 Goku, about 6 years after the Boo arc and after he had received crazy Whis training. Dabra was considered a non-threat by Goku and Vegeta during the Boo arc, and he was implied to be below a rusty Super Saiyan Gohan. Zamasu wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Sun Aug 14, 2016 6:37 am

Anime Kitten wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:Zamasu vs. Dabura
That's a tough one. They're around equal in power (since SSJ2 Goku [who fought Zamasu] fought SSJ2 Trunks [who fought Dabura]) pretty evenly, but I'd say Dabura has more skill, and he has the spit. So, Zamasu gets defeated after a reasonably short battle.
Goku and Trunks didn't even fought evenly, Goku easily blocked Trunks' punches and called him ''not half-bad''. Zamasu actually put up a better fight to Goku than Trunks.

In the flashback when Trunks got up and turned what it looks like Super Saiyan 2 against Dabra, Trunks easily killed him. So it seems like only Super Saiyan Trunks was having a hard time against Dabra, which actually makes sense considering Dabra is just a Super Saiyan-tier fighter. As shown in his fight against a rusty Super Saiyan Gohan and Vegeta's comment about him.

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Zamasu vs. Dabura
Vegeta considered Dabra a non-threat multiple times with Goku agreeing (Even before Goku realized that Vegeta also achieved Super Saiyan 2). Zamasu on the other hand, put up a good fight against a waaaay stronger version of Super Saiyan 2 Goku. Like Trunks, Zamasu would likely just deflect Dabra's stone spit and vaporize him.

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