Lujin_16 wrote:I read some comments In youtube about revealing Black Goku so many hate comments and many are disappointed because he is not Goten or some says the trunks arc sucks now super is now bad bla bla
bla lol those fans are ridiculous that it makes me angry....The Trunks Arc is great so far and does not deserve such a hate but what can you do i hope episode 60-61 will give them an heartattack
I dont like this arc as it seems like a bunch of rematches to me with no progress on either side.
For the Goten theorists it could happen if the future Zamasu has mistakenly took Goten as Goku and in the end that is he downfall.
Lujin_16 wrote:I read some comments In youtube about revealing Black Goku so many hate comments and many are disappointed because he is not Goten or some says the trunks arc sucks now super is now bad bla bla
bla lol those fans are ridiculous that it makes me angry....The Trunks Arc is great so far and does not deserve such a hate but what can you do i hope episode 60-61 will give them an heartattack
Pretty much.
The Goten stuff in particular didn't make much sense. When Black followed Trunks to the main timeline, when fighting Goku he kept clutching his chest. Seemed like an obvious throwback to the heart disease Goku had during the Android saga in DBZ. On top of that, during their first rematch, Black used Goku's teleportation technique. Teleportation is unique to Goku.
I honestly don't mind the fact that Goten hasn't been utilized in Super. Not looking for a flame war, but he and Gotenks could easily have been written out of the Buu saga. Would have much preferred if the focus after Gohan 'died' was on (present timeline) Trunks alone, and his potential was explored (maybe going into the RoSaT with Piccolo and achieving SSJ2 on his own). I'm ranting a bit now, but I guess my point is that I don't miss the Goten character or feel cheated by his lack of screen time/relevance in Super.
Lujin_16 wrote:I read some comments In youtube about revealing Black Goku so many hate comments and many are disappointed because he is not Goten or some says the trunks arc sucks now super is now bad bla bla
bla lol those fans are ridiculous that it makes me angry....The Trunks Arc is great so far and does not deserve such a hate but what can you do i hope episode 60-61 will give them an heartattack
Pretty much.
The Goten stuff in particular didn't make much sense. When Black followed Trunks to the main timeline, when fighting Goku he kept clutching his chest. Seemed like an obvious throwback to the heart disease Goku had during the Android saga in DBZ. On top of that, during their first rematch, Black used Goku's teleportation technique. Teleportation is unique to Goku.
I honestly don't mind the fact that Goten hasn't been utilized in Super. Not looking for a flame war, but he and Gotenks could easily have been written out of the Buu saga. Would have much preferred if the focus after Gohan 'died' was on (present timeline) Trunks alone, and his potential was explored (maybe going into the RoSaT with Piccolo and achieving SSJ2 on his own). I'm ranting a bit now, but I guess my point is that I don't miss the Goten character or feel cheated by his lack of screen time/relevance in Super.
I agree with you. You could write both him and Gotenks out of the Buu arc and it would barely even change. If he was not relevant when the series focused on saiyans(Z and GT.) characters, why the hell would he be relevant when the focus is on god characters?(Super)
Lujin_16 wrote:I read some comments In youtube about revealing Black Goku so many hate comments and many are disappointed because he is not Goten or some says the trunks arc sucks now super is now bad bla bla
bla lol those fans are ridiculous that it makes me angry....The Trunks Arc is great so far and does not deserve such a hate but what can you do i hope episode 60-61 will give them an heartattack
I dont like this arc as it seems like a bunch of rematches to me with no progress on either side.
For the Goten theorists it could happen if the future Zamasu has mistakenly took Goten as Goku and in the end that is he downfall.
Rematches??? Goku & Vegeta has had the first serious fight against Zamasu & Black Goku and lost....Forget about the fight between Goku and Black Goku it was not a serious fight more like meeting
Lujin_16 wrote:I read some comments In youtube about revealing Black Goku so many hate comments and many are disappointed because he is not Goten or some says the trunks arc sucks now super is now bad bla bla
bla lol those fans are ridiculous that it makes me angry....The Trunks Arc is great so far and does not deserve such a hate but what can you do i hope episode 60-61 will give them an heartattack
I dont like this arc as it seems like a bunch of rematches to me with no progress on either side.
For the Goten theorists it could happen if the future Zamasu has mistakenly took Goten as Goku and in the end that is he downfall.
Rematches??? Goku & Vegeta has had the first serious fight against Zamasu & Black Goku and lost....Forget about the fight between Goku and Black Goku it was not a serious fight more like meeting
nothing more
A lot of arcs have rematches. I mean boo arc was basically rematches against boo.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
namekiansaiyan wrote:
I dont like this arc as it seems like a bunch of rematches to me with no progress on either side.
For the Goten theorists it could happen if the future Zamasu has mistakenly took Goten as Goku and in the end that is he downfall.
Rematches??? Goku & Vegeta has had the first serious fight against Zamasu & Black Goku and lost....Forget about the fight between Goku and Black Goku it was not a serious fight more like meeting
nothing more
A lot of arcs have rematches. I mean boo arc was basically rematches against boo.
Not the same buu though. This will be the third time Goku and Trunks has faced Black and Vegeta's second. The upcoming episodes will probably not be the last time these 3 face Black. It has been fight then break then fight then break then fight with no real progression.
namekiansaiyan wrote:I dont like this arc as it seems like a bunch of rematches to me with no progress on either side.
This arc is being pretty good for me, but what you said is actually true and kinda annoying, I agree. I hope these incoming battles are indeed the final ones, no gang escaping for the second time to go to the future and battle their foes again and again for f***'s sake.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
I don't see the problem. The first match between Goku and Black served a purpose, as Black gained more strength from it. The second match, it introduced Future Zamasu and revealed he was in cahoots with Black after all. Also, it introduced Rose and Goku and co. actually had to retreat for the first time in awhile from battle after being overwhelmed by their opponents. And now, this last match will be the one that ends it all.
ryou766 wrote:I don't see the problem. The first match between Goku and Black served a purpose, as Black gained more strength from it. The second match, it introduced Future Zamasu and revealed he was in cahoots with Black after all. Also, it introduced Rose and Goku and co. actually had to retreat for the first time in awhile from battle after being overwhelmed by their opponents. And now, this last match will be the one that ends it all.
Lujin_16 wrote:I read some comments In youtube about revealing Black Goku so many hate comments and many are disappointed because he is not Goten or some says the trunks arc sucks now super is now bad bla bla
bla lol those fans are ridiculous that it makes me angry....The Trunks Arc is great so far and does not deserve such a hate but what can you do i hope episode 60-61 will give them an heartattack
I dont like this arc as it seems like a bunch of rematches to me with no progress on either side.
For the Goten theorists it could happen if the future Zamasu has mistakenly took Goten as Goku and in the end that is he downfall.
Zamasu mistaken Goten for Goku would make little sense for several reasons.
Kanassa wrote:
precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.
Toyotaro is okay, but I not fond of how his lines are mostly of the same thickness (looks like he draws digitally) and the way he draws the faces.
Good thing is that he is is a fan of the series, so if he continues to draw it non-stop he'll only get better as time goes on.
Avok wrote:Toyotaro is okay, but I not fond of how his lines are mostly of the same thickness (looks like he draws digitally) and the way he draws the faces.
Agreed. If he were to thin his lines a bit his work would look a lot more detailed and Toriyama-like.
ChronoTwigger wrote:(about the spoiler)
Could be a tricky POV?
Like the wrong deductions of Whis?
It could be a very good way to create hype.
There was a previous summary that said that Trunks had powered up for his match against Zamasu and Goku Black thanks to his training, but nothing like that was mentioned in the actual episode at all. So, it is possible for these things to have mistakes. I don't think that will be one though.
Anime Kitten wrote:[spoiler]Let me get this straight... either Future Goku has gone insane, or there's THREE Zamasus?[/spoiler]
[spoiler]This is my opinion but I hope it makes sense. There are indeed three Zamasus, who each have different pasts but the same goals. Present Zamasu was surprised to discover that his plans were exposed. However, we have to remember he wanted to create a "fake Goku" to use as a puppet. While I think Black is Zamasu from another timeline who switched his bodies with a different Goku, and Future Zamasu is someone who chose immortality over changing bodies or creating slave for his personal use.[/spoiler]
This whole thing makes no sense to me. I'm going to need some thorough explanation from the series to evaluate this further.
