"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Shuby]

really didn't like GT back then but compared to Super, it still had a somewhat solid idea of progression.
Character development in Super is horrible.. if there is any oO

Goku:
Brain dead child who doesn't take anything seriously. Where the hell is the Goku that respected his enemies' power? Yea, Goku was always dumb and funny, but just as Luffy is. When it gets serious, they get/got serious as well

Vegeta:
He WAS badass, he was the incarnation of bad assness.. in super he bows bis head before anyone -> not consistent at all taking into account how proud his original personality was
Only positive aspect is, he cares more about his family, which makes sense

Piccolo:
Just where is he in Super? One fight, one horrible defeat. That's it?

Gohan:
Gosh, remember how he was fighting to survive before the sayans' arrival? What the hell happened to that Gohan?! He doesn't wanna fight but study. This is just killing every Gohan fan

Trunks & Gohan:
They simply don't matter in Super, not even Trunks who got more screen time, plus no development , where is Goten??
Same goes for Krilin.
Beerus and Whis:
Are made into a joke, them reacting to the earth foods is cringy AF and sometimes makes me question if they're gag characters or not. Almost every single episode has about 5-10 min of them overreacting and throwing a tantrum over shitty foods. They're "Gods" it seems.......damn this is insulting.

The story:
Good basic idea of expanding the battlefield to other universes, but what a garbage realization
the plot is horrible, it's got no turns, no tension, no drama, no intensity.. just nothing of that!!!

The WORST part:
The events in super are not well interwoven
->> there is the main plot and nothing else around it
Have they ever heard of secondary plots and characters?!

Suspense:
The creator's should look up this term. They may be surprised if they thought they put it in DBS...

Last point:
It is too childish, we all like comic relief, but it's just too much for my taste.

Conclusion:
DBS is a heartless, empty shell with polished animation which is not worth watching if you wanna relive that epic DBZ feeling.

update// I almost forgot, Goku never kissed Chichi WTFFFFFFF?!
Yea, he might not know how to but cmon... two kids and no kiss?! that's ridiculous

[Noah]

We all feel your pain, Shuby

[Avery]

I think Future Trunks really isn't coming back after this arc. Bulma's there to pilot the time machine back to the present instead of him and I guess Goku and co. will destroy it after all these warnings from Beerus and Whis. Also Future Bulma is dead and Trunks might want to respect Vegeta's order and try to rely on himself from now on.

[LightBing]

We all feel your pain, Shuby

Speak for yourself. Not everyone relates to bullets points of the most repeated complains of Super.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

We all feel your pain, Shuby

No we don't. Don't go around trying to speak for everyone.

Black arc is currently better then anything Z could have mastered up.

[ChaosLordBrandon]

We all feel your pain, Shuby

No the hell we don't.

Black as a character shits on all three main villains of z combined.

[Noah]

Speak for yourself. Not everyone relates to bullets points of the most repeated complains of Super.

Black arc is currently better then anything Z could have mastered up.

Black as a character shits on all three main villains of z combined.

Guys, don't be so obnoxious about it, he had some good points, even thought as LightBing pointed are the same repeated complaints of Super over and over again

Also, don't be so biased about it, the actual arc is just a arc with rehashed Android Arc concepts, it had a good premise with the long-waited "change of tone", but failed to build the tension (if we compare to Z) the same problem with last arcs of Super as well, they had us stuck watching because of the mystery surrounding the identidy of Goku Black, and turns out to be something disappointing, a character that is not even his own self, so I don't know what you're talking about, this arc is indeed quite enjoyable with its notable improvements: better soundtrack, fight scenes and animation, but is nowhere comparable with the original, pardon

[omaro34]

We all feel your pain, Shuby

No we don't. Don't go around trying to speak for everyone.

Black arc is currently better then anything Z could have mastered up.

Highly disagree. And I'm not nostalgic or stubborn. Watching the original Freeza/Namek Arc for the first time is a masterpiece of Anime. The Black Arc isn't even finished yet, and you're already coming up with that blasphemous conclusion? Wait until the Arc ends at least before you make such a proclamation. With all due respect, of course.

[JulieYBM]

New episode titles for Naruto Shippuuden has appeared via magazine scans. Dragon Ball Super should not be very far behind.

[omaro34]

We all feel your pain, Shuby

No the hell we don't.

Black as a character shits on all three main villains of z combined.

Don't get me wrong, this Arc is pretty good. I still have some complaints on it in terms of what Shuby already pointed out, but you seem to be just living in the moment, and have a short memory; hence causing you to state ridiculous things like Black is a better villain than any bad guy in DBZ "combined". As Noah pointed out, Black isn't even his own self! He is another version of Zamasu, and he is a tool that Zamasu used to accomplish his evil plans. Zamasu is a good villlain that was developed well, but I'm not going to prematurely put him above Freeza, King Piccolo, or even Cell yet! I'm going to wait and see how this pans out.

Not to mention this arc currently has so many unanswered questions that need to be answered.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

We all feel your pain, Shuby

No we don't. Don't go around trying to speak for everyone.

Black arc is currently better then anything Z could have mastered up.

Highly disagree. And I'm not nostalgic or stubborn. Watching the original Freeza/Namek Arc for the first time is a masterpiece of Anime. The Black Arc isn't even finished yet, and you're already coming up with that blasphemous conclusion? Wait until the Arc ends at least before you make such a proclamation. With all due respect, of course.

It really isn't. The anime ruined the adaption from the Manga changing things, extending things and worse as hell unnecessary padding which Kai does fix so what but the other problems still remain.

If the entire arc was like it was the "F" special retelling then it'd be pretty close. But the arc did get a lot less interesting when the Freeza portion started.

Your right this arc could conclude in a pretty crap way or unsatisfying way etc, so I'd say say so far I'm enjoying it a lot more then any Z arc.

[Alee9977]

Speak for yourself. Not everyone relates to bullets points of the most repeated complains of Super.

Black arc is currently better then anything Z could have mastered up.

Black as a character shits on all three main villains of z combined.

Guys, don't be so obnoxious about it, he had some good points, even thought as LightBing pointed are the same repeated complaints of Super over and over again

Also, don't be so biased about it, the actual arc is just a arc with rehashed Android Arc concepts, it had a good premise with the long-waited "change of tone", but failed to build the tension (if we compare to Z) the same problem with last arcs of Super as well, they had us stuck watching because the mystery surrounding the identidy of Goku Black, and turns out to be something disappointing, a character that is not even his own self, so I don't know what you're talking about, this arc is indeed quite enjoyable with its notable improvements: better soundtrack, fight scenes and animation, but is nowhere comparable with the original, pardon

I disagree, the only thing I agree with you is that DBS it's different from Z. I don't really share Shuby's opinion, for me Super is better than GT by a lot. My only problem with the series is Goku's behaviour, I enjoy watching DBS every week and believe me, I thought I wouldn't when I saw the first chapters.

[Kanassa]

Speak for yourself. Not everyone relates to bullets points of the most repeated complains of Super.

Black arc is currently better then anything Z could have mastered up.

Black as a character shits on all three main villains of z combined.

Guys, don't be so obnoxious about it, he had some good points, even thought as LightBing pointed are the same repeated complaints of Super over and over again

How are they being obnoxious?

[Ki Breaker]

really didn't like GT back then but compared to Super, it still had a somewhat solid idea of progression.
Character development in Super is horrible.. if there is any oO

Goku:
Brain dead child who doesn't take anything seriously. Where the hell is the Goku that respected his enemies' power? Yea, Goku was always dumb and funny, but just as Luffy is. When it gets serious, they get/got serious as well

Vegeta:
He WAS badass, he was the incarnation of bad assness.. in super he bows bis head before anyone -> not consistent at all taking into account how proud his original personality was
Only positive aspect is, he cares more about his family, which makes sense

Piccolo:
Just where is he in Super? One fight, one horrible defeat. That's it?

Gohan:
Gosh, remember how he was fighting to survive before the sayans' arrival? What the hell happened to that Gohan?! He doesn't wanna fight but study. This is just killing every Gohan fan

Trunks & Gohan:
They simply don't matter in Super, not even Trunks who got more screen time, plus no development , where is Goten??
Same goes for Krilin.
Beerus and Whis:
Are made into a joke, them reacting to the earth foods is cringy AF and sometimes makes me question if they're gag characters or not. Almost every single episode has about 5-10 min of them overreacting and throwing a tantrum over shitty foods. They're "Gods" it seems.......damn this is insulting.

The story:
Good basic idea of expanding the battlefield to other universes, but what a garbage realization
the plot is horrible, it's got no turns, no tension, no drama, no intensity.. just nothing of that!!!

The WORST part:
The events in super are not well interwoven
->> there is the main plot and nothing else around it
Have they ever heard of secondary plots and characters?!

Suspense:
The creator's should look up this term. They may be surprised if they thought they put it in DBS...

Last point:
It is too childish, we all like comic relief, but it's just too much for my taste.

Conclusion:
DBS is a heartless, empty shell with polished animation which is not worth watching if you wanna relive that epic DBZ feeling.

update// I almost forgot, Goku never kissed Chichi WTFFFFFFF?!
Yea, he might not know how to but cmon... two kids and no kiss?! that's ridiculous

As much as I want to say you are completely wrong about everything because of the 1st paragraph which says GT is better than super..
( seriously.. GT is the worst abomination I have ever seen.. And I have seen many many anime )

You do bring up some valid points in rest of your article..

But no.. I also gotta say no to dbs is an empty shell..
If something GT is an empty shell for me..
( just an opinion( probably truth ) don't go rougue on me GT fans )..

The black arc is really something else..
I am having a LOT of fun with it..
Like it literally makes my whole week with a good episode.. Which dbz never managed to do

[ailema88]

I Really hate the comparison of GT with Super staring with the fact that in GT Goku was a clumsy kid, Vegeta had a horrible mustache and look more like a common earthling and her hairstyle was ugh, Trunks was very dumb and the show itself was arround a spoiled girl as Pan, I really hate her annoying personality, and the rest of Characters were only left outside.

I know that in Super Goku is too childish but in DBZ he act stupid sometimes too and as long as he keep the seriousness in battle I don't have problem with that. Vegeta keeps his personality moreover we see that he has use his armor suit even more that in DBZ (and obviously GT) what means that he is very active in his training and we see that he keeps his desire to be as stronger or more than Goku. I really like the change Kid Trunks has gotten in this arc I think have met his future self will help his character development to be more mature and keeps his saiyan heritage. Also I don't see DBS as Goku and Vegeta Show only, I really like the new characters that have been involved in the story such as Jako, Beerus, Whis and Zeno Sama I would like that Champa and Vados will be envolved in future arcs too as well as Bulma's sister Thighs... Bulma also has had an important role in the story and I really like that because in Buu Arc didn't happened.. I am really enjoying DBS I know it's not perfect but I think it's easier to criticize the series cause we only have one episode per week... There are episodes of DBZ that I really hate and were really slowly even in Buu saga (which I consider the best) there are episodes that I don't even watch cause they're too boring...

So I think we shouldn't judge Super as a hole cause it doesn't even finish, in the other hand we cannot describe DBZ as a masterpiece cause although it is a great anime it has its lacks too..

[Anime Kitten]

New episode titles for Naruto Shippuuden has appeared via magazine scans. Dragon Ball Super should not be very far behind.

Off-topic here, but I thought Shippuden just ended. Maybe I just assumed because of the "last Naruto VS Sasuke fight"?

[Swifticuffs]

It has to have been mentioned before, but has anyone ever gone "Why doesn't Black just blow planets up" in regards to his extinction plan? My thought has always been that it was no for two reasons:

1) Zamasu doesn't want planets destroyed, merely wants them cleansed of "human" life so they can "flourish" without them.

2) Black wants to get stronger by being tested by fighters like Trunks. Although, didn't he say he destroyed planets before? Guess destroy can be translated as many things...

Thanks guys!

[Kanassa]

New episode titles for Naruto Shippuuden has appeared via magazine scans. Dragon Ball Super should not be very far behind.

Off-topic here, but I thought Shippuden just ended. Maybe I just assumed because of the "last Naruto VS Sasuke fight"?

Yeah, I thought that ended and they started a new series about Naruto's son or somthing

[Saikyo no Senshi]

New episode titles for Naruto Shippuuden has appeared via magazine scans. Dragon Ball Super should not be very far behind.

Off-topic here, but I thought Shippuden just ended. Maybe I just assumed because of the "last Naruto VS Sasuke fight"?

I'm assuming it will end at ep 480. The fight is pretty much over.

- Travis

[Kanassa]

It has to have been mentioned before, but has anyone ever gone "Why doesn't Black just blow planets up" in regards to his extinction plan? My thought has always been that it was no for two reasons:

1) Zamasu doesn't want planets destroyed, merely wants them cleansed of "human" life so they can "flourish" without them.

2) Black wants to get stronger by being tested by fighters like Trunks. Although, didn't he say he destroyed planets before? Guess destroy can be translated as many things...

Thanks guys!

Black makes it clear that he wants mortals gone, not the planet itself. He sees it as 'Pest Control' for the Universe. Remember the episode where he monolouges about how he'll make Earth a paradise after all the dirty nigen are gone?