Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[Shinda Forever]

Why are you guys so obsessed with Dragonball "beating" One Piece? Seriously, what does this matter?

Yeah, we already beat One Piece once. I don't get it.

Once after 96 episodes, the record is pretty good so far.

[Bigivel]

One Piece isn't that popular in the west, and the only other show on that list that is well known is of course Pokemon.

Detective Conan, Precure, everything else, etc. is pretty much unknown or niche in the west.

What do you mean not that popular? Is pretty popular in France, Germany, Italy, Portugal and many european countries. Is also popular in Brazil and other south American countries. And I would also say it is popular in the United States of America and Canada. If you count Australia as a Western Country, it is also popular there. Note that not being as popular as Pokemon and Dragon Ball is different than "isn't that popular".

What the hell have you been snorting? One Piece is not popular in Brazil nor Latin America. We got the 4kids dub and it was a major flop. Its only recently that the mere hope of a reintroduction could Save One Piece over there. I know because I live there and I know the situation like the palm of my hand.

What do you mean popular? And why are you talking of One Piece introduction and not right now? Because "isn't that popular" means right now not when it started.
What do you mean by "could Save"? The reintroduction was made in a long time, did it saved it or not?

I heard that since Panini One Piece has been one of the best selling manga in Brasil, I believe only behind Dragon Ball and Saint Seiya. I heard that after some time Naruto cooldown(just like it happened in France).

Also I believe it was Mexico that got high sales from One Piece volumes. Also heard about thing of other countries.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Brazil cancelled One Piece I think but not sure if it resumed. Mexico I'm not sure how well it sold but its still ongoing. Argentina is up to the "Tom-san" volume. I dont know how well it sold anywhere in those regions. But One Piece isnt popular in Latin America. Otherwise the anime would be dubbed. Did you know we were the Only fucking region where One Piece Film Gold wasnt released? We never got it. Germany did. Spain did. The Middle East (Okay just Dubai) did. Us? Shit Squat! Neither Brazil.

[Araki]

Brazil cancelled One Piece I think but not sure if it resumed. Mexico I'm not sure how well it sold but its still ongoing. Argentina is up to the "Tom-san" volume. I dont know how well it sold anywhere in those regions. But One Piece isnt popular in Latin America. Otherwise the anime would be dubbed. Did you know we were the Only fucking region where One Piece Film Gold wasnt released? We never got it. Germany did. Spain did. The Middle East (Okay just Dubai) did. Us? Shit Squat! Neither Brazil.

One Piece was cancelled in Brazil because the original publisher bankrupted (many other manga were interrupted). Later, Panini got the rights and started re-releasing from volume 1, with widespread publicity and extremely solid sales at first. No idea how it's doing these days, however. It's on volume 69 (Punk Hazard) right now.

I think 4kids is a big part of the reason why One Piece isn't bigger in the west. In many countries, the anime never got back after the 4kids fiasco. In fact, i heard not that long ago, Toei was still trying to sell the rest of that version to LA countries instead of their own, believe it or not.

[HeroR]

Brazil cancelled One Piece I think but not sure if it resumed. Mexico I'm not sure how well it sold but its still ongoing. Argentina is up to the "Tom-san" volume. I dont know how well it sold anywhere in those regions. But One Piece isnt popular in Latin America. Otherwise the anime would be dubbed. Did you know we were the Only fucking region where One Piece Film Gold wasnt released? We never got it. Germany did. Spain did. The Middle East (Okay just Dubai) did. Us? Shit Squat! Neither Brazil.

One Piece was cancelled in Brazil because the original publisher bankrupted (many other manga were interrupted). Later, Panini got the rights and started re-releasing from volume 1, with widespread publicity and extremely solid sales at first. No idea how it's doing these days, however. It's on volume 69 (Punk Hazard) right now.

I think 4kids is a big part of the reason why One Piece isn't bigger in the west. In many countries, the anime never got back after the 4kids fiasco. In fact, i heard not that long ago, Toei was still trying to sell the rest of that version to LA countries instead of their own, believe it or not.

I have a hard time believing that 4Kids is the primary reason why One Piece didn't take in the west. Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon has some really questionable dubs too that were censored and did extremely well. The same with many other animes back in the 80s to later 90s. I just think One Piece is just one of those shows that wasn't destined to become a super hit in the west, although the crappy dub certainly didn't help.

[Sodhi]

Latest Ratings
Sazae: 11.4
Chibi Maruko-chan: 7.9
Crayon Shin-chan:7.7
Doraemon: 7.4
one piece: 6.2
Dragon ball super(#97): 6.0
Pockemon Sun & Moon: 3.5
Animation Osoru no George: 3.5
Sean of sheep: 3.4
Glittering Pretty Cure A la Mode: 3.4

I expected a much higher rating. I guess it's still good enough

[DBZ Macky]

So the "build-up" didn't affect the ratings at all? I thought people would be much more hyped for the tournament.

[Araki]

So the "build-up" didn't affect the ratings at all? I thought people would be much more hyped for the tournament.

A long-running series won't suddenly get a large batch of new viewers at this point, that's unrealistic. The fact it manages to keep its numbers great and consistent, now on 6th place in a regular basis, means its audience IS hyped for the tournament.

Well, maybe with a new arc you have more people DVR'ing it ot whatever, but not waking up at 9am every Sunday to watch it live.

One Piece was cancelled in Brazil because the original publisher bankrupted (many other manga were interrupted). Later, Panini got the rights and started re-releasing from volume 1, with widespread publicity and extremely solid sales at first. No idea how it's doing these days, however. It's on volume 69 (Punk Hazard) right now.

I think 4kids is a big part of the reason why One Piece isn't bigger in the west. In many countries, the anime never got back after the 4kids fiasco. In fact, i heard not that long ago, Toei was still trying to sell the rest of that version to LA countries instead of their own, believe it or not.

I have a hard time believing that 4Kids is the primary reason why One Piece didn't take in the west. Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon has some really questionable dubs too that were censored and did extremely well. The same with many other animes back in the 80s to later 90s. I just think One Piece is just one of those shows that wasn't destined to become a super hit in the west, although the crappy dub certainly didn't help.

See, i said it's part of the reason, but i still think it's a big part of it because:

1) anime is definitely more popular than manga in the West; a successful anime certainly helps boosting the latter
2) then we have a crappy, incomplete anime rendition, and the fact Toei still tried to push for it after the failure
3) as bad as those old dubs were, they probably were not 4kids-bad, and in the internet age surely audiences react worse to bad dubs/censorship, etc

I mean, it can't be a coincidence that the countries where OP is more popular also got the original anime (and some of them never aired the 4kids version at all), while in places where the tv experience was limited to 4kids, even good manga sales make it a "niche" hit instead of a mainstream one, the DB/Naruto/Pokemon it could be.

[perucho1990]

Well it scored better than the beginning of the U6 Tournament, thats a huge plus considering the focus were mostly on U9 and U10.

[Bullza]

It was much closer to One Piece this week. Right on its heels.

It was 0.2 behind this week whereas last week it was 0.6 behind.

[HeroR]

Well it scored better than the beginning of the U6 Tournament, thats a huge plus considering the focus were mostly on U9 and U10.

That isn't how rating works since people didn't know who would get focus unless they actually watched the episode.

So the "build-up" didn't affect the ratings at all? I thought people would be much more hyped for the tournament.

A long-running series won't suddenly get a large batch of new viewers at this point, that's unrealistic. The fact it manages to keep its numbers great and consistent, now on 6th place in a regular basis, means its audience IS hyped for the tournament.

Well, maybe with a new arc you have more people DVR'ing it ot whatever, but not waking up at 9am every Sunday to watch it live.

One Piece was cancelled in Brazil because the original publisher bankrupted (many other manga were interrupted). Later, Panini got the rights and started re-releasing from volume 1, with widespread publicity and extremely solid sales at first. No idea how it's doing these days, however. It's on volume 69 (Punk Hazard) right now.

I think 4kids is a big part of the reason why One Piece isn't bigger in the west. In many countries, the anime never got back after the 4kids fiasco. In fact, i heard not that long ago, Toei was still trying to sell the rest of that version to LA countries instead of their own, believe it or not.

I have a hard time believing that 4Kids is the primary reason why One Piece didn't take in the west. Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon has some really questionable dubs too that were censored and did extremely well. The same with many other animes back in the 80s to later 90s. I just think One Piece is just one of those shows that wasn't destined to become a super hit in the west, although the crappy dub certainly didn't help.

See, i said it's part of the reason, but i still think it's a big part of it because:

1) anime is definitely more popular than manga in the West; a successful anime certainly helps boosting the latter
2) then we have a crappy, incomplete anime rendition, and the fact Toei still tried to push for it after the failure
3) as bad as those old dubs were, they probably were not 4kids-bad, and in the internet age surely audiences react worse to bad dubs/censorship, etc

I mean, it can't be a coincidence that the countries where OP is more popular also got the original anime (and some of them never aired the 4kids version at all), while in places where the tv experience was limited to 4kids, even good manga sales make it a "niche" hit instead of a mainstream one, the DB/Naruto/Pokemon it could be.

Dragon Ball and Sailor Moon were both incomplete too and only got complete because of Toonami. Sheesh, both of them stopped in the middle of a story arc. That's not even getting into the original 13 episodes of Dragon Ball dub, which is a guilty pleasure of mines.

That is kind of subject, since I remember site roosting FUNI for the dub of Dragon Ball Z before Ocean and after the voice changes. Sailor Moon is funny in that people have a love/hate relationship with the dub. In that I never seen people actually hate the original dub, but disappointed with the censorship. I know that many of the dub tracks and voice actors are still beloved today to the point that some were disappointed that they didn't return for the Viz's dub.

As I said, I admit that 4Kids didn't help, but as you pointed out One Piece maybe more popular in places that got a good dub, but it isn't a giant hit. Like, even with a great dub from the start, I don't see One Piece reaching Naruto's levels of fame. But this is impossible to say since we're dealing with a What If that can't really be proven either way.

[precita]

What people don't point out is the huge gap between Super and the shows after it:

Dragon ball super: 6.0
Pockemon Sun & Moon: 3.5
Animation Osoru no George: 3.5
Sean of sheep: 3.4
Glittering Pretty Cure A la Mode: 3.4

We go from the 6.0's to Pokemon which is only a 3.5, and the following shows hover around there too. Dragonball literally gets twice the amount of viewers as Pokemon or the rest of the anime on the top 10. So why do people constantly think Super isn't doing as well as it could when it not only is in the same rank almost every week below Detective Conan and One Piece, but it still gets double the viewership of everything beneath it.

[Hit!!]

Definitely Super is a huge success in Japan. I'm pretty sure that if Super aired at another hour, the rating would be even better, noting that a huge chunk of Super's fanbase are young adults in their 20's and even some people on their 30's. So waking up a sunday at 9 a.m. for an adult that works 6 days a week can be a bit tough, because Sundays are the days we choose to rest and recover from all the lost sleep and stress of the week and of course, the hangover.

At least it's like that in my case, not everybody is the same. But i think more than a few people here can agree that maybe the time slot that Super airs doesn't help... If Super aired Saturday night at 9:30 PM like it does in the west on Crunchy Roll, that would probably improve the ratings.

Me and my friends get together every saturday at 9 PM to watch DBS and drink beer.. It has become a a routine, and we are all adults in our mid to late 20's.

But i know Super will never change it's slot.. I'm just saying that it would have higher ratings if it aired at night time.

[Mazingerdestro]

Weird seen how much of a decline op has even in these episodes.
Sanji vs his dad are suppose to be the most exciting episodes of the arc but still they only allow for a 0.2 over dbs.
Just imagine Op not having dbs to basically carry it. I doubt it would be ranked in top 10

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Latest Ratings
Sazae: 11.4
Chibi Maruko-chan: 7.9
Crayon Shin-chan:7.7
Doraemon: 7.4
one piece: 6.2
Dragon ball super(#97): 6.0
Pockemon Sun & Moon: 3.5
Animation Osoru no George: 3.5
Sean of sheep: 3.4
Glittering Pretty Cure A la Mode: 3.4

I expected a much higher rating. I guess it's still good enough

Nice to see Curious George and Shaun the Sheep in the top 10! Still need to watch Shaun the Sheep movie but Japanese children know what's up! Still have no idea to this day what those top 3 shows are lol.

[Mazingerdestro]

Latest Ratings
Sazae: 11.4
Chibi Maruko-chan: 7.9
Crayon Shin-chan:7.7
Doraemon: 7.4
one piece: 6.2
Dragon ball super(#97): 6.0
Pockemon Sun & Moon: 3.5
Animation Osoru no George: 3.5
Sean of sheep: 3.4
Glittering Pretty Cure A la Mode: 3.4

I expected a much higher rating. I guess it's still good enough

Nice to see Curious George and Shaun the Sheep in the top 10! Still need to watch Shaun the Sheep movie but Japanese children know what's up! Still have no idea to this day what those top 3 shows are lol.

You don't know Shin-chan?
Plot: A young kid that likes to sake his butt.

[TheMikado]

Weird seen how much of a decline op has even in these episodes.
Sanji vs his dad are suppose to be the most exciting episodes of the arc but still they only allow for a 0.2 over dbs.
Just imagine Op not having dbs to basically carry it. I doubt it would be ranked in top 10

Come on guys...

[emperior]

Weird seen how much of a decline op has even in these episodes.
Sanji vs his dad are suppose to be the most exciting episodes of the arc but still they only allow for a 0.2 over dbs.
Just imagine Op not having dbs to basically carry it. I doubt it would be ranked in top 10

Come on guys...

Yeah that's too much considering Super benefits from OP viewers too.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Weird seen how much of a decline op has even in these episodes.
Sanji vs his dad are suppose to be the most exciting episodes of the arc but still they only allow for a 0.2 over dbs.
Just imagine Op not having dbs to basically carry it. I doubt it would be ranked in top 10

Come on guys...

Glad I'm not the only one who saw how blatantly ignorant that post was

[Bullza]

It is strange to see how much One Piece has fallen though. Dragon Ball Super seems to have stayed the same whereas One Piece hasn't.

For example this is a ratings from last June

One Piece - 7.4%
Dragon Ball Super - 6.1%

One Piece - 9.5%
Dragon Ball Super - 6.8%