The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Post by In Brightest Day » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:30 am

Jaco vs. Tenshinhan [spoiler]in a game of "I Spy."[/spoiler]

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In Brightest Day wrote:Jaco vs. Tenshinhan [spoiler]in a game of "I Spy."[/spoiler]
Jaco wins. He vision was able to spot that Frost was using poison needles quite quickly, something nobody else picked up. Even the Gods.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:50 pm

Fat Janemba vs Magetta

Janemba: Janemba!
Magetta: Shugo!
Janemba: Janemba, Janemba! *clap clap*
Magetta: Shugoooo! *pounds chest* *clank clank clank*

(And of course, this is following the logic that SSJ forms are not coming with god ki in Super. Vegeta and Goku are indeed still at their Buu saga strength, based on the moment Trunks visits.)
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:42 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:What about the Blue Kaioken?
SSJB Goku < Beerus
SSJBKK Goku >= Beerus
SSJBKKx10 Goku > Beerus
I guess this is what I'd personally go with.
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Post by MaxZ » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:14 pm

Android 18 (Buu Saga) VS Android 17

I know 17 is marginally more powerful, but in the Cell Saga neither of the Androids really knew martial arts, they just relied on brute strength and speed. but over the 7 years between the arcs, 18 learns martial arts from Krillin. I think this might be enough to give her the edge over her brother.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:03 pm

MaxZ wrote:Android 18 (Buu Saga) VS Android 17

I know 17 is marginally more powerful, but in the Cell Saga neither of the Androids really knew martial arts, they just relied on brute strength and speed. but over the 7 years between the arcs, 18 learns martial arts from Krillin. I think this might be enough to give her the edge over her brother.
Aside from possibly teaching her the Kienzan(and that technique isn't especially difficult to do, seeing how Vegeta copies it by the end of the Saiyan arc, so she might've figured it out on her own.), I don't think Kuririn taught her anything she didn't already know. I suppose it is possible for her to win, but unless if No. 17's power somehow degraded in seven years, I'd say he still has the advantage.
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Post by DBZ Macky » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:53 pm

DBZ Macky wrote: NEW FIGHTS
BoDB Goku and Mr. Satan separately fight these guys one on one and are healed after each fight.
1. Mai (In her Pilaf machine)
2. Dinosaur (The one who was chasing Chichi)
3. Baby Gamera
4. Kuririn (In his debut)
5. Yamcha (21st Budokai)
6. Orinji temple senpais (Individually)
7. 21st Budokai preliminary fighters
8. Ranfan
9. Giran (w/o his rubber)
10. Bacterian
11. Silver
12. Murasaki
13. White
14. Bora
15. Black
16. Pamput
17. Dracula Man
18. Invisible Man
Am I allowed to repeat if I get no response the first time around?
I'd really like to hear you guys' opinion on this.
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DBZ Macky wrote:What about the Blue Kaioken?
SSJB Goku < Beerus
SSJBKK Goku >= Beerus
SSJBKKx10 Goku > Beerus
I guess this is what I'd personally go with.
I would also like to think that but it'd make Hit's timeskip effective on Beerus and Champa. What's more is Toriyama's(?) statement about Goku not surpassing Beerus anytime soon.
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MaxZ wrote:Android 18 (Buu Saga) VS Android 17

I know 17 is marginally more powerful, but in the Cell Saga neither of the Androids really knew martial arts, they just relied on brute strength and speed. but over the 7 years between the arcs, 18 learns martial arts from Krillin. I think this might be enough to give her the edge over her brother.
Aside from possibly teaching her the Kienzan(and that technique isn't especially difficult to do, seeing how Vegeta copies it by the end of the Saiyan arc, so she might've figured it out on her own.), I don't think Kuririn taught her anything she didn't already know. I suppose it is possible for her to win, but unless if No. 17's power somehow degraded in seven years, I'd say he still has the advantage.
I think that #18 is still the same in power, more or less. Kuririn is the one who went back to his peak after his training is what I'd like to believe. So #17 is still greater than #18.
fadeddreams5 wrote:Fat Janemba vs Magetta

Janemba: Janemba!
Magetta: Shugo!
Janemba: Janemba, Janemba! *clap clap*
Magetta: Shugoooo! *pounds chest* *clank clank clank*

(And of course, this is following the logic that SSJ forms are not coming with god ki in Super. Vegeta and Goku are indeed still at their Buu saga strength, based on the moment Trunks visits.)
Your current profile picture (?) is enough to remind me of Janemba's destructive potential. Add to that the fact that Magetta has NO feats except being durable as hell. Heck, he can't even fly and only gave trouble to Vegeta because of the restrictions placed on him. I believe Champa arc SSJ >= Buu arc SSJ2 but not SSJ > SSJ3 yet. Janemba has this.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Sep 06, 2016 12:57 pm

Commeson Vegeta vs Base Goku [Champa arc].

No Commeson weakness, transformations or Kaioken. Fight to the death.

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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:00 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:What's more is Toriyama's(?) statement about Goku not surpassing Beerus anytime soon.
I don't subscribe to that statement.
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Post by DBZ Macky » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:02 pm

ZombieVito wrote:Commeson Vegeta vs Base Goku [Champa arc].

No Commeson weakness, transformations or Kaioken. Fight to the death.
That's basically asking if Goku from one arc before is as strong as Vegeta or not. I think the difference between Goku and Vegeta is marginal these days. Commeson Vegeta stomps.
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DBZ Macky wrote:What's more is Toriyama's(?) statement about Goku not surpassing Beerus anytime soon.
I don't subscribe to that statement.
Toriyama's never really been consistent about this kind of stuff so I can see why you'd chose to ignore that statement.
What I would REALLY like to know is if Hit's (Who is at least on par with Bluper Kaioken) Time leap affects Beerus or not.
The manga established that it doesn't work on opponents out of his league.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:08 pm

DBZ Macky wrote:What I would REALLY like to know is if Hit's (Who is at least on par with Bluper Kaioken) Time leap affects Beerus or not. The manga established that it doesn't work on opponents out of his league.
I'd say Hit goes just a little weaker than Blue Kaioken x10, so I'd place him equal to or, at the very most, slightly stronger than Beerus. So there's my answer on a non-proposed fight: Beerus VS Hit. :D
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Post by nickzambuto » Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:50 am

Who's the strongest character that Evolution Goku can beat?

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:58 am

Note: I will be using the incarnation of the characters from Dragon Ball: Heroes such as the God Mission 5 animated promo version of Gohan and the stronger than GT canon what if version of Trunks that can go Super Saiyan 3. But as for the case of Cooler and Frieza, they will be using the same form King Cold had used against Bra in Dragon Ball Multiverse.

1) GT Gohan (Base) vs. Turles and Raditz.

2) Super Saiyan GT Gohan vs. Nappa and Vegeta (Saiyan Saga).

3) Super Saiyan 2 GT Gohan vs. Sixth Form Cooler and Sixth Form Frieza (Frieza Saga).

4) Super Saiyan 3 GT Gohan vs. Super Perfect Future Cell and Super Perfect Cell.

5) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs. Majin Buu and Super Buu.

6) Super Saiyan GT Gohanks vs. Zamasu (from his fight with Super Saiyan 2 Goku).

7) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohanks vs. Goku Black (from his fight with Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks).

Bonus Note: Both Future Gohan and GT Trunks have trained together in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Goku from the Dragon Ball Super anime for two years before they teamed up against the monsters below.

Eight) Future Gohan and GT Trunks vs. Future Android 17 and Future Android 18.

9) Super Saiyan Future Gohan and Super Saiyan GT Trunks vs. Perfect Future Cell.

10) Super Saiyan 2 Future Gohan and Super Saiyan 2 GT Trunks vs. Legendary Super Saiyan Future Broly.

11) Super Saiyan Blue Future Gohan and Super Saiyan Blue GT Trunks vs. Future Zamasu.
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Post by DanielSSJ » Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:34 am

nickzambuto wrote:Who's the strongest character that Evolution Goku can beat?
Mr. Satan maybe?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Sep 07, 2016 1:17 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:Note: I will be using the incarnation of the characters from Dragon Ball: Heroes such as the God Mission 5 animated promo version of Gohan and the stronger than GT canon what if version of Trunks that can go Super Saiyan 3. But as for the case of Cooler and Frieza, they will be using the same form King Cold had used against Bra in Dragon Ball Multiverse.

1) GT Gohan (Base) vs. Turles and Raditz.

2) Super Saiyan GT Gohan vs. Nappa and Vegeta (Saiyan Saga).

3) Super Saiyan 2 GT Gohan vs. Sixth Form Cooler and Sixth Form Frieza (Frieza Saga).

4) Super Saiyan 3 GT Gohan vs. Super Perfect Future Cell and Super Perfect Cell.

5) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohan vs. Majin Buu and Super Buu.

6) Super Saiyan GT Gohanks vs. Zamasu (from his fight with Super Saiyan 2 Goku).

7) Super Saiyan 4 GT Gohanks vs. Goku Black (from his fight with Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks).

Bonus Note: Both Future Gohan and GT Trunks have trained together in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Goku from the Resurrection F movie for two years before they teamed up against the monsters below.

Eight) Future Gohan and GT Trunks vs. Future Android 17 and Future Android 18.

9) Super Saiyan Future Gohan and Super Saiyan GT Trunks vs. Perfect Future Cell.

10) Super Saiyan 2 Future Gohan and Super Saiyan 2 GT Trunks vs. Legendary Super Saiyan Future Broly.

11) Super Saiyan Blue Future Gohan and Super Saiyan Blue GT Trunks vs. Future Zamasu.
Note: For the previous four battles I meant to say Goku from Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F to have trained them, but for the rest of this post will feature a what if scenario in that Goku and the crew had somehow recruited GT Gohan from the conclusion of the Assault on the Hell Gate Saga to help them in taking on the competition of the Universe 6 vs Universe 7 Tournament For Earth Saga before the entire team of Universe 7 (with the more than likely possible exception of their secret weapon in the form of Monaka, the alien Mr. Satan) decide to go train within the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for three days in order to prepare.

The team will consist in order of Goku, Vegeta, Gohan (not the same one who decided that a conference was more important than the fate of his loved ones and home planet), Piccolo, Majin Buu, and Monaka (introduced by Beerus to be the very last to fight as he is the weakest member of the team, so much so I believe in that even Spike from the original series of Dragon Ball could beat him) with Beerus and Whis as the team's supervisors.

12) Versus Botamo.

13) Versus First Form Frost.

14) Versus Assault Form Frost.

15) Versus Ruthless Final Form Frost.

16) Versus Auta Magetta.

17) Versus Prince Cabba.

18) Versus Super Saiyan Prince Cabba.

19) Versus Hit.

P.S. Since I assume that Cabba is the counterpart of Vegeta from Universe 6, I decided to call him a Prince.

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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:04 am

SSJ Gohan [RoF arc] vs Grey Boo.

No absorption or magic.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 12:30 am

SSj3 Movie 13 Goku vs. Janemba

Does Goku have a better chance on winning since he knows the Dragon Fist attack?
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Post by Darkron2151 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:27 am

ZombieVito wrote:SSJ Gohan [RoF arc] vs Grey Boo.

No absorption or magic.
You probably already know my answer to this, but IMO, ANY form of Boo can beat Gohan at this point.
Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj3 Movie 13 Goku vs. Janemba

Does Goku have a better chance on winning since he knows the Dragon Fist attack?
IMO, the only reason Goku was able to land the Dragon Fist on Hirudegarn was because he was so big (hard to miss with a building-sized Dragon). Even with a super powerful move like that, Goku's very unlikely a hit a guy who is much smaller in size and who has the ability to go through dimensional rifts by means of escape. Janemba wins due to power advantage and also evasiveness.

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Post by Analytic » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:59 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj3 Movie 13 Goku vs. Janemba
In my opinion, Goku would be able to win even as a regular Super Saiyan. He seemed to be stronger than Ultimate Gohan in that movie, so for me that puts him leaps and bounds above his M12 self, who wasn't far weaker than Janemba.

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Post by apex_pretador » Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:22 am

ZombieVito wrote:SSJ Gohan [RoF arc] vs Grey Boo.

No absorption or magic.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:SSj3 Movie 13 Goku vs. Janemba

Does Goku have a better chance on winning since he knows the Dragon Fist attack?
Goku powers down to SS2 and casually one shots Janemba.
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