"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

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Post by Alee9977 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:19 pm

I'm seeing it. Goku goes back to the past, Vegeta and Trunks keep fighting with Black and Zamasu. The moment they are going to lose and there is nothing left to do, Goku appears and owen for victory starts...

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Post by MajinMan » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:41 pm

So they're bringing that move back. I'm actually really excited to see how this plays out. I'm predicting that it is not going to work.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Oct 05, 2016 10:46 pm

MajinMan wrote:So they're bringing that move back. I'm actually really excited to see how this plays out. I'm predicting that it is not going to work.
Honestly, I half expect it to be a throwaway reference. It's just like Toei to hide padding under the guise of nostalgia.
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Post by JulieYBM » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:13 pm

I like that the Mafuu-ba is making a return but I find it a bit much that we keep going back-and-forth in time. This arc could be streamlined a lot better.

Oh, well, maybe Tenshinhan and the Muten Roushi will use the Mafuu-ba in Gokuu's place. He's not the type to use it.
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Post by Chuquita » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:19 pm

Re: Episode summary spoilers

[spoiler]Mafuba makes me nervous, but I guess Future Trunks' world has super db's so even if Gokû does successfully use it and therefore die....they can just wish him back with the super db's? I can't imagine it'll come to that though.

I also feel the "this is dragging" in the plot in the way that some weekly manga series do, so while it's still frustrating it's at least a familiar kind of frustrating. I feel like there's gotta be a better way to pace this than to continually jumping back into the past.[/spoiler]
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Post by DBS916 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:40 pm

Chuquita wrote:Re: Episode summary spoilers

[spoiler]Mafuba makes me nervous, but I guess Future Trunks' world has super db's so even if Gokû does successfully use it and therefore die....they can just wish him back with the super db's? I can't imagine it'll come to that though.

I also feel the "this is dragging" in the plot in the way that some weekly manga series do, so while it's still frustrating it's at least a familiar kind of frustrating. I feel like there's gotta be a better way to pace this than to continually jumping back into the past.[/spoiler]

What episode number is this? To be honest I'm surprised if this legit. Because I think it would be better if they somehow managed to overpower both Zamasus, and how would Goku know how to perform the move without Master Roshi or Tien assisting him?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:41 pm

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Chuquita wrote:Re: Episode summary spoilers

[spoiler]Mafuba makes me nervous, but I guess Future Trunks' world has super db's so even if Gokû does successfully use it and therefore die....they can just wish him back with the super db's? I can't imagine it'll come to that though.

I also feel the "this is dragging" in the plot in the way that some weekly manga series do, so while it's still frustrating it's at least a familiar kind of frustrating. I feel like there's gotta be a better way to pace this than to continually jumping back into the past.[/spoiler]

What episode number is this? To be honest I'm surprised if this legit. Because I think it would be better if they somehow managed to overpower both Zamasus, and how would Goku know how to perform the move without Master Roshi or Tien assisting him?
Herms even took the time to translate it. It's definitely legitimate. https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/783791041119793152
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Post by DBS916 » Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:44 pm

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Herms even took the time to translate it. It's definitely legitimate. https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/783791041119793152
Thanks for the link. I wish this wasn't the way Goku and crew wouldn't defeat Black and Zamasu but I hope it'll pay off.

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Post by Makai » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:03 am

If they're really bringing back the Mafuba, I wish they would let someone else do it, not named Goku. Maybe like Kid Trunks, I hate how Goku, Vegeta, and Future Trunks are the only three who have did anything this whole arc, should let Kid Trunks' minor role pay off and let him in on the action at least.

I also hate that they keep going back and forth between timelines. What's the point of going in without a plan, just to fail and come right back to the present again? And why not bring the others with them to help out?

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Post by sintzu » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:10 am

Makai wrote:If they're really bringing back the Mafuba, I wish they would let someone else do it, not named Goku.
Goku doing it is the best thing they can do cause it will prevent him from fighting cause he'll be busy preparing the Mafuba while Vegeta and Trunks are the main fighters against the Zamasus.

I know it would be great to see someone else do something but at least this time Goku won't be on the battlefield.
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Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:39 am

I'm also tired of this back-and-forth. It does feel like the plot is dragging. How Trunks is going to hold his own against Black and Zamasu is beyond me. I'm sure he'll get an asspull powerup but this isn't the first time so whatever.

I don't know how I feel about the Mafuu-ba. Super has been doing what the original series never did. The Makankosappo, Gyalick-Ho, Final Flash, Kaio-Ken now Mafuu-ba everything is returning. What's next? Genki-Dama? I wanted something original but Gokuu learning it sure makes me excited.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Thu Oct 06, 2016 1:55 am

The complaint of them going back and forward in time seems pretty exaggerated to me. Trunks came back at the beginning for help, then we stayed in the present for awhile, then we spent two episodes in the future before the gang was forced to retreat and were near death and now we're in the future again and everyone realizes that Beerus was wrong, so Goku is going back to try and learn a technique to defeat Zamasu while Trunks and Vegeta stay behind to fight.
We can eliminate the first trip of Trunks since that was literally to get the arc started and it was just him, so really they've only escaped as a group to the past once and Goku is going back a second time for a very good reason while the action will continue in the future. Every instance of time travel has made perfect sense in the context of the plot so I don't really get the complaint.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:01 am

Why is everyone assuming the Vegeta stays in the Future? Reading the leaks, it seems like Trunks is the only one staying.
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Post by Sandubadear » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:06 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Why is everyone assuming the Vegeta stays in the Future? Reading the leaks, it seems like Trunks is the only one staying.
Because the half-title for episode 63 is "Vegeta's Fierce Battle".
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Post by Khin » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:09 am

Makai wrote:What's the point of going in without a plan, just to fail and come right back to the present again? And why not bring the others with them to help out?
The main reason why Trunks and co went back to the future again was to check whether Beerus' statement regarding Gods affecting the space-time is true or not. I thought this was obvious in the episode.

Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Bulma can barely fit in the Time Machine, what makes you think other people will fit in ? And adding more guys that can't deal with either Black or Zamasu will just add more casualties, so it's best to leave them in the past.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Why is everyone assuming the Vegeta stays in the Future? Reading the leaks, it seems like Trunks is the only one staying.
Because the next episode after this Trunks one is titled as "Vegeta's Fierce Battle". Vegeta also has no reason to come back to the past, Bulma has to operate the Time Machine and Goku has to learn the Mafuba. What's Vegeta gonna do ? Learn the Mafuba too ? Though that would actually be quite fun to see.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:10 am

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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Why is everyone assuming the Vegeta stays in the Future? Reading the leaks, it seems like Trunks is the only one staying.
Because the half-title for episode 63 is "Vegeta's Fierce Battle".
I don't follow. The titles for this show never represent the entire episode. We had a perfect example of this in the most recent episode.

It could (and I'm willing to bet it will) be a case where Vegeta fights, then everyone retreats to the past.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:13 am

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Makai wrote:What's the point of going in without a plan, just to fail and come right back to the present again? And why not bring the others with them to help out?
The main reason why Trunks and co went back to the future again was to check whether Beerus' statement regarding Gods affecting the space-time is true or not. I thought this was obvious in the episode.

Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, and Bulma can barely fit in the Time Machine, what makes you think other people will fit in ? And adding more guys that can't deal with either Black or Zamasu will just add more casualties, so it's best to leave them in the past.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Why is everyone assuming the Vegeta stays in the Future? Reading the leaks, it seems like Trunks is the only one staying.
Because the next episode after this Trunks one is titled as "Vegeta's Fierce Battle". Vegeta also has no reason to come back to the past, Bulma has to operate the Time Machine and Goku has to learn the Mafuba. What's Vegeta gonna do ? Learn the Mafuba too ? Though that would actually be quite fun to see.
I doubt he'd learn the Mafuba, but it's too early to say that he'd have no reason to go back. Besides, what else could "Goku and Co." mean if not for Vegeta, Goku, and Bulma? I'm sure that it would have at least been noted, as was Trunks.
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Post by Sandubadear » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:23 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Why is everyone assuming the Vegeta stays in the Future? Reading the leaks, it seems like Trunks is the only one staying.
Because the half-title for episode 63 is "Vegeta's Fierce Battle".
I don't follow. The titles for this show never represent the entire episode. We had a perfect example of this in the most recent episode.

It could (and I'm willing to bet it will) be a case where Vegeta fights, then everyone retreats to the past.
62's summary implies they already arrive in the present and ask Kamesennin about the Mafuba, so it could be that they are already back in the future in 63 and Vegeta's fierce battle happens then.
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