Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

[Araki]

Weird seen how much of a decline op has even in these episodes.
Sanji vs his dad are suppose to be the most exciting episodes of the arc but still they only allow for a 0.2 over dbs.
Just imagine Op not having dbs to basically carry it. I doubt it would be ranked in top 10

Come on guys...

Yeah that's too much considering Super benefits from OP viewers too.

While that's true, Detective Conan is a good example of a huge show that has been hurt from some of its lead-ins underperforming recently. No wonder DBS is beating Conan sometimes, as Boku no Hero Academia isn't helping.

When Conan gets a lead-in with ratings that are closer to DBS' standards, it greatly benefits from it and even beats One Piece. So yes, a good lead-in is more important to the following show than the other way around, no doubt. OP could have fallen lower with a bad lead-in, although i don't think it would ever drop off the top 10.

[alakazam^]

While that's true, Detective Conan is a good example of a huge show that has been hurt from some of its lead-ins underperforming recently. No wonder DBS is beating Conan sometimes, as Boku no Hero Academia isn't helping.

When Conan gets a lead-in with ratings that are closer to DBS' standards, it greatly benefits from it and even beats One Piece. So yes, a good lead-in is more important to the following show than the other way around, no doubt. OP could have fallen lower with a bad lead-in, although i don't think it would ever drop off the top 10.

It's a good thing Super isn't being affected by Monster Hunter, then.

[Araki]

While that's true, Detective Conan is a good example of a huge show that has been hurt from some of its lead-ins underperforming recently. No wonder DBS is beating Conan sometimes, as Boku no Hero Academia isn't helping.

When Conan gets a lead-in with ratings that are closer to DBS' standards, it greatly benefits from it and even beats One Piece. So yes, a good lead-in is more important to the following show than the other way around, no doubt. OP could have fallen lower with a bad lead-in, although i don't think it would ever drop off the top 10.

It's a good thing Super isn't being affected by Monster Hunter, then.

Well, yeah, but that's a little different as Monster Hunter is airing on a new timeslot that was occupied by average morning news when DBS started up to a few months ago, not an anime, so that timeslot wasn't supposed to affect Super at first.
Perhaps if MH was doing great it would boost DBS, but it never took off so things stayed the same.

[BlacXero]

It is strange to see how much One Piece has fallen though. Dragon Ball Super seems to have stayed the same whereas One Piece hasn't.

For example this is a ratings from last June

One Piece - 7.4%
Dragon Ball Super - 6.1%

One Piece - 9.5%
Dragon Ball Super - 6.8%

Probably cause OP has more casual viewers while DBS has a strong dedicated fan group.

[Araki]

Now this is interesting: Tv Asahi just announced that, starting in October, their traditional Sunday Morning timeslot will go through a revamp:

8:30-9:00 - Kirakira Precure A La Mode
9:00-9:30 - Kamen Rider
9:30-10:00 - Super Sentai

Currently, the block goes until 9 am, following the Sentai - Rider - Precure order.

This means that Rider and Sentai will clash directly against DBS and One Piece. I don't know what the hell they are thinking, as there's a possibility that all four shows will be hurt, especially Asahi's, as they have lower viewership. But then again, those are all Toei properties, and Toei Company is the 2nd major owner of Tv Asahi, so maybe they're aware that the demographics don't clash as much? Time will tell.

[Mazingerdestro]

Weird seen how much of a decline op has even in these episodes.
Sanji vs his dad are suppose to be the most exciting episodes of the arc but still they only allow for a 0.2 over dbs.
Just imagine Op not having dbs to basically carry it. I doubt it would be ranked in top 10

Come on guys...

Glad I'm not the only one who saw how blatantly ignorant that post was

You misspelled honest. We get it you love op (constantly runs to reply when someone doesn't approve it 100%) but try keeping it under control and watch your language. No need to get harsh. Op didn't lose anything from 1 honest non-fanboy opinion.

As for the normal reply. Op is constantly on a decline in its anime presence.
That doesn't make it bad (BNHA never ranked that high and people love it. There are also series like boruto and pokemon) but sure shows how strategically is placed after a series that has both national and international presence in the anime world even if it was absent from tv for so long. People who think that db earns anything from airing before op, have to search how the placement of series in timeslots works with ratings.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Come on guys...

Glad I'm not the only one who saw how blatantly ignorant that post was

You misspelled honest. We get it you love op (constantly runs to reply when someone doesn't approve it 100%) but try keeping it under control and watch your language. No need to get harsh. Op didn't lose anything from 1 honest non-fanboy opinion.

As for the normal reply. Op is constantly on a decline in its anime presence.
That doesn't make it bad (BNHA never ranked that high and people love it. There are also series like boruto and pokemon) but sure shows how strategically is placed after a series that has both national and international presence in the anime world even if it was absent from tv for so long. People who think that db earns anything from airing before op, have to search how the placement of series in timeslots works with ratings.

I love Dragon Ball too, I was actually introduced to it before One Piece and I watch Super dubbed and subbed every week in addition to watching One Piece every week, but what you said was flat out wrong and others have said that it was too. Your post was ignorant, you act like nothing bad can be said about Dragon Ball but if someone (or at least you think) does it for One Piece it's wrong? That's not cool. I'm just tired of misinformation being thrown around as if these ratings really matter in the end and acting like beating One Piece one time was something that would cause a big change and it wasn't. What you said about the ratings isn't right and people have told you why, Dragon Ball isn't everyone's savior like you seem to think. You think that you're right but you only think in terms of Dragon Ball and don't look at the bigger picture. You are literally the only one who disagreed with what I had to say because I said it like it is and didn't praise Dragon Ball for supposedly being the glue that holds everything together when it's truly not. There is nothing strategic about how you think the ratings work because thinking that a revival of a 30 year old franchise that has stayed at the same percentage for basicallly it's entire run would cause a currently ongoing series that is within the same league of Doraemon and Sazae-san in terms of cultural significance to suddenly drop out of the top 10 is just ignorant. One Piece is consistently in the top 5 in terms of ratings and wouldn't just suddenly veer off the entire list if Super wasn't there. I mean, look at the ratings for Kai, they beat One Piece a few times but did it ever stop being off the top 10? No. So please, don't accuse me of doing the same with One Piece when you literally do it with Dragon Ball and have a problem when I point out that you're not right. Also, "try to keep it under control" was quite uncalled for

[Mazingerdestro]

Glad I'm not the only one who saw how blatantly ignorant that post was

You misspelled honest. We get it you love op (constantly runs to reply when someone doesn't approve it 100%) but try keeping it under control and watch your language. No need to get harsh. Op didn't lose anything from 1 honest non-fanboy opinion.

As for the normal reply. Op is constantly on a decline in its anime presence.
That doesn't make it bad (BNHA never ranked that high and people love it. There are also series like boruto and pokemon) but sure shows how strategically is placed after a series that has both national and international presence in the anime world even if it was absent from tv for so long. People who think that db earns anything from airing before op, have to search how the placement of series in timeslots works with ratings.

I love Dragon Ball too, I was actually introduced to it before One Piece and I watch Super dubbed and subbed every week in addition to watching One Piece every week, but what you said was flat out wrong and others have said that it was too. Your post was ignorant, you act like nothing bad can be said about Dragon Ball but if someone (or at least you think) does it for One Piece it's wrong? That's not cool. I'm just tired of misinformation being thrown around as if these ratings really matter in the end and acting like beating One Piece one time was something that would cause a big change and it wasn't. What you said about the ratings isn't right and people have told you why, Dragon Ball isn't everyone's savior like you seem to think. You think that you're right but you only think in terms of Dragon Ball and don't look at the bigger picture. You are literally the only one who disagreed with what I had to say because I said it like it is and didn't praise Dragon Ball for supposedly being the glue that holds everything together when it's truly not. There is nothing strategic about how you think the ratings work because thinking that a revival of a 30 year old franchise that has stayed at the same percentage for basicallly it's entire run would cause a currently ongoing series that is within the same league of Doraemon and Sazae-san in terms of cultural significance to suddenly drop out of the top 10 is just ignorant. One Piece is consistently in the top 5 in terms of ratings and wouldn't just suddenly veer off the entire list if Super wasn't there. I mean, look at the ratings for Kai, they beat One Piece a few times but did it ever stop being off the top 10? No. So please, don't accuse me of doing the same with One Piece when you literally do it with Dragon Ball and have a problem when I point out that you're not right. Also, "try to keep it under control" was quite uncalled for

The only not "cool thing" is a fanboy that struggles to start a comment war on kanzenshuu when he clearly has a YouTube commenter mentality. I already told you not to insult me again to support a series or did you think that bullying me will shut me up????
Nobody cares that you are a super fan because nobody cares to measure each other's dedication or whatever drives you to insult someone personally over animation.
Try keeping it under control!!

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Bullying? Yeah, no, you're overreacting. Whatever though, these ratings don't even matter anyways and I'm just going to keep watching both shows and not make a war out of their ratings

[Mazingerdestro]

Bullying? Yeah, no, you're overreacting. Whatever though, these ratings don't even matter anyways and I'm just going to keep watching both shows and not make a war out of their ratings

Overacting? You insulted me twice for stating the truth about your "precious series" and now act like it's cool..

Apologising would be nice.
Also some self control

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Bullying? Yeah, no, you're overreacting. Whatever though, these ratings don't even matter anyways and I'm just going to keep watching both shows and not make a war out of their ratings

Overacting? You insulted me twice for stating the truth about your "precious series" and now act like it's cool..

Apologising would be nice.
Also some self control

Dude, many people told you that you were wrong, not just me. Take that and just move on and also, I never insulted you, I was merely being blunt but if you think it is then I'm sorry

[Cure Dragon 255]

Bullying? Yeah, no, you're overreacting. Whatever though, these ratings don't even matter anyways and I'm just going to keep watching both shows and not make a war out of their ratings

Overacting? You insulted me twice for stating the truth about your "precious series" and now act like it's cool..

Apologising would be nice.
Also some self control

EDIT: And you arent assuming people are fanboys defending their "Precious Series" or whatever?

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Bullying? Yeah, no, you're overreacting. Whatever though, these ratings don't even matter anyways and I'm just going to keep watching both shows and not make a war out of their ratings

Overacting? You insulted me twice for stating the truth about your "precious series" and now act like it's cool..

Apologising would be nice.
Also some self control

EDIT: And you arent assuming people are fanboys defending their "Precious Series" or whatever?

Exactly, just because I called the post ignorant, he assumes that it's because of my fandom when its actually because what he said was wrong and ignorant of everything else but Dragon Ball

[Mazingerdestro]

Bullying? Yeah, no, you're overreacting. Whatever though, these ratings don't even matter anyways and I'm just going to keep watching both shows and not make a war out of their ratings

Overacting? You insulted me twice for stating the truth about your "precious series" and now act like it's cool..

Apologising would be nice.
Also some self control

EDIT: And you arent assuming people are fanboys defending their "Precious Series" or whatever?

No. You are not a fanboy if someone says something and you say "yeah....maybe not". Don't even give a reason, just say "I don't agree". However, if you feel the need to insult someone over animation, the answer is clear.
Especially, when he has done that in the past over the same reason. Last time I chose to ignore him but I see that he did it again.
Nobody cares for your personal preferences especially when you don't know how to express them.
There is no reason defending that attitude. Rudeness and personal vendettas over "favorite series" have no place here

Exactly, just because I called the post ignorant, he assumes that it's because of my fandom when its actually because what he said was wrong and ignorant of everything else but Dragon Ball

The only thing that is ignorant and hypocritical is the fact that you "apologise" and then you insult again when you feel that someone tries to defend you..... I already spend more than enough time trying to talk to a troll. I am going to start ignoring you.

[VejituhTheWarriorGuy]

Overacting? You insulted me twice for stating the truth about your "precious series" and now act like it's cool..

Apologising would be nice.
Also some self control

EDIT: And you arent assuming people are fanboys defending their "Precious Series" or whatever?

No. You are not a fanboy if someone says something and you say "yeah....maybe not". Don't even give a reason, just say "I don't agree". However, if you feel the need to insult someone over animation, the answer is clear.
Especially, when he has done that in the past over the same reason. Last time I chose to ignore him but I see that he did it again.
Nobody cares for your personal preferences especially when you don't know how to express them.
There is no reason defending that attitude. Rudeness and personal vendettas over "favorite series" have no place here

Exactly, just because I called the post ignorant, he assumes that it's because of my fandom when its actually because what he said was wrong and ignorant of everything else but Dragon Ball

The only thing that is ignorant and hypocritical is the fact that you "apologise" and then you insult again when you feel that someone tries to defend you..... I already spend more than enough time trying to talk to a troll. I am going to start ignoring you.

I'm not a troll but ok, maybe you should have ignored the whole thing in the first place and not have turned it into a big thing by replying to a simple post that could be ignored but ok. I don't think I'm ever going to be posting in this thread again, too toxic for its own good over ratings from a place faraway from where we even are where people don't like to be proven wrong when they're giving misinformation

[VegettoEX]

These kinds of posts and responses are not becoming of Kanzenshuu members. Knock it off. It's incredibly embarrassing, both for yourselves and as a representation of this community.

Furthermore, a post containing multiple links to pirate/bootleg streaming/download sites has been removed.

All members would do well to review the community guidelines.

[Bigivel]

These kinds of posts and responses are not becoming of Kanzenshuu members. Knock it off. It's incredibly embarrassing, both for yourselves and as a representation of this community.

Furthermore, a post containing multiple links to pirate/bootleg streaming/download sites has been removed.

All members would do well to review the community guidelines.

Sorry, the post with the links is mine. I did it because those series don't have representation in most places in the west(I'm certain the 2 of the 3 I shown don't really have in any place), and so instead to send the person to go look for them I placed them here. I tried to at least place them in spoiler tags.

[LuckyCat]

Episode 98:

1. Sazae-san: 10.7%
2. Crayon Shin-chan: 6.9%
3. Doraemon: 6.8%
4. One Piece: 6.6%
5. Chibi Maruko-chan: 6.2%
6. Detective Conan: 5.8%
7. Dragon ball super: 4.8%
8. Pre-Cure A la mode: 3.8%
9. Pockemon Sun & Moon: 3.6%
10. Curious George: 3.5%

[perucho1990]

Oh damn thats the 2nd lowest rating ever in DBS, I guess as some people pointed it out, the japanese fans didnt like the forced drama because Goku and Vegeta couldve defeated U9 faster.

[Chuquita]

4.8 and 7th? Wow that's low.

It hasn't been an interesting tournament so far. I don't blame people for skipping it.