The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:01 am

nickzambuto wrote: I said Yamcha was a legitimate challenge to Ten. Which he was, Ten outright admits this himself and states that Yamcha was a lot stronger than he initially gave him credit for. The two of them were trading blows, grimacing, and dealing damage, with Tenshinhan ultimately coming out on top, but Goku vs Krillin was an incredibly large gap. Goku outright stood still and caught Krillin's Kamehameha in one hand effortlessly. That match only lasted because Goku allowed it to, whereas Ten was serious against Yamcha and still took awhile to win. He had to use some special technique to reverse Yamcha's Kamehameha, if he had tried to catch it he likely would have been injured, let alone dead stopping it with one arm.

Krillin might be more clever than Yamcha is, but I see Yamcha as a greater fighter and definitely stronger during the 22nd Budokai. Keep in mind Krillin was still just a teenager at that point compared to adults, he would steadily grow at a faster rate than Yamcha and Tenshinhan as he matured, surpassing Yamcha by the 23ed Budokai, and then surpassing Tenshinhan by the Saiyans battle. But at the 22nd? When he was still just a boy and Yamcha and Ten were both far more experienced than him? It makes sense that they were both stronger.
Tenshinhan was holding back against Yamcha, Tsuru-sennin informs us of that fact. Later on after fighting Jackie Chun, Tenshinhan is impressed that he's even stronger than Tsuru-Sennin, basically telling us that Yamcha and Krillin weren't.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Roronoa-pt » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:17 am

ZombieVito wrote:
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ZombieVito wrote:Not even SSJ2 Vegeta wins.
Could you please elaborate a bit more? Majin Vegeta (who was a Super Saiyan 2) was basically on par with SSJ2 Goku, who was apparently stronger than SSJ2 Gohan. I don't necessarily disagree, I'd just like to know why you think that.
Well the fight you proposed was with pre Majin Vegeta. That Vegeta was on par with a SSJ2 Gohan with no rage boost from the Boo arc. He stands no change against a raged SSJ2 Gohan from the Cell games.

New fights:

Ginyu [Tagoma] vs Perfect Cell.
Piccolo [Before training with RoF Gohan] vs East Kaioshin.
SSJ Gotenks [pre RoSaT] vs South Kaioshin.
West Kaioshin vs Perfect Cell [vs Goku].
North Kaioshin vs SSJ Goku [vs Perfect Cell].
Portara fusion of all 4 U7 Kaioshins vs Zamasu.
SSJ2 Future Trunks vs Zamasu.
SSR Black [With Kaioken x 20] vs Champa.
Gohan [Champa arc] vs Pure Boo.
Jaco vs Roshi [RoF arc].

No magic, absorption or body change.
Ginyu-Tagoma wins with low difficulty.
Piccolo should be superior to Kaioshin by the time he fights Freeza in DBS.
No clue.
No clue.
No clue.
Potara gives a huge strenght boost, U7's Kaioshins should win against Present Zamasu.
SSJ2 Future Trunks is at least equal to SSJ2 Goku, he wins easily against Present Zamasu.
Champa was nervous when being stared by KK's SSJB Goku and Hit, SSR Black is incredibly powerful and with Kaioken boost, he has a chance to defeat Champa.
I'm positive that Gohan, when training with Piccolo, regained his Mystic Powers. However, I don't believe he's enough to beat Pure Buu.
Jaco is a pretty decent fighter, but Max Power Roshi is stronger.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:38 am

dbgtFO wrote:
nickzambuto wrote: I said Yamcha was a legitimate challenge to Ten. Which he was, Ten outright admits this himself and states that Yamcha was a lot stronger than he initially gave him credit for. The two of them were trading blows, grimacing, and dealing damage, with Tenshinhan ultimately coming out on top, but Goku vs Krillin was an incredibly large gap. Goku outright stood still and caught Krillin's Kamehameha in one hand effortlessly. That match only lasted because Goku allowed it to, whereas Ten was serious against Yamcha and still took awhile to win. He had to use some special technique to reverse Yamcha's Kamehameha, if he had tried to catch it he likely would have been injured, let alone dead stopping it with one arm.

Krillin might be more clever than Yamcha is, but I see Yamcha as a greater fighter and definitely stronger during the 22nd Budokai. Keep in mind Krillin was still just a teenager at that point compared to adults, he would steadily grow at a faster rate than Yamcha and Tenshinhan as he matured, surpassing Yamcha by the 23ed Budokai, and then surpassing Tenshinhan by the Saiyans battle. But at the 22nd? When he was still just a boy and Yamcha and Ten were both far more experienced than him? It makes sense that they were both stronger.
Tenshinhan was holding back against Yamcha, Tsuru-sennin informs us of that fact. Later on after fighting Jackie Chun, Tenshinhan is impressed that he's even stronger than Tsuru-Sennin, basically telling us that Yamcha and Krillin weren't.
Tenshinhan also stated outright when fighting Yamcha that he had no idea there was a person this strong. That sounds like a better compliment than just being compared to Tsuru, since it would logically INCLUDE Tsuru. I guess Ten made the comparison between Tsuru and Chun specifically because they were both old men and he was surprised that Jackie was even strong at all. Not saying that Yamcha was stronger than Tsuru or Chun, it's possible Ten wasn't including his own school when he said that, but the praise Ten gave Yamcha is undeniably respectable.

Ten did hold back the majority of his techniques on Yamcha, but I don't think he held back any actual physical strength or skill. When he told Chun that he was going to start fighting seriously, he didn't come out with a burst of speed and power. Instead, he used the Taiyoken/Solar Flare and Kamehameha. That means he was already fighting with full physical strength. He might not have needed these unique techniques against Yamcha, but Yamcha still nearly matched him in hand-to-hand combat and that is impressive in its own right. More impressive than Krillin being toyed with by Goku at least.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:03 am

nickzambuto wrote:Krillin, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan all vs base Vegeta (Boo arc)? Personally I'd like to think they could pull it off.
Personally, I don't think any of the earthlings break the 1 million power level mark, whereas Vegeta is around 70 million in his normal form, and that's before he gets Majin-ized. Even if the Earthlings team up, they're gonna be hard-pressed to do any significant damage to Vegeta. Given the power advantage that Vegeta has, he'd probably be able to withstand Tenshinhan's Kikoho, and he knows full well to avoid Kuririn's Kienzan (especially since he can perform the technique as well). Sorry, but I don't think the Earthlings have a prayer against Vegeta.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Khin » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:12 am

nickzambuto wrote:Krillin, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan all vs base Vegeta (Boo arc)? Personally I'd like to think they could pull it off.
Vegeta reverts back to his Android Arc self and proceeds to one shot each of the earthlings.

At high end I have Kuririn and Tenshinhan around 3 Million at their peak, while Yamcha's considerably lower than that. Meanwhile Vegeta is more than 60 Million, so I think Android Arc Base Vegeta (Around 6 Mil) will be more than enough to pull this off. Tenshinhan's Kikoho will do nothing but push nothing but push Vegeta back and Vegeta is smart enough to dodge the Kienzan (As we clearly saw in the Saiyan Arc), Yamcha's Sodikan ain't gonna do shit either.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Roronoa-pt » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:16 am

nickzambuto wrote:Krillin, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan all vs base Vegeta (Boo arc)? Personally I'd like to think they could pull it off.
I personally don't think they can win. Vegeta should be able to tank Ten's Kikoho and knows well Kuririn's ace attack, Kienzan. Yamcha hasn't any special ability to surprise Vegeta. But if you include Chaozu, from DBS, in the Z-senshi team, they should be able to, at very least, seriously damage Vegeta, as Chaozu was seen using this technique to paralyse a much stronger Goku for five seconds or so.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:13 am

Damn, y'all got no respect for your own damn race lol

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:38 pm

Kanzenshuu Forum Users vs. Dragon Ball Villains.

1) Nickzambuto vs. General Blue.

2) Roronoa-pt vs. Buyon.

3) Khin vs. Spike The Devilman.

4) DanielSSJ vs. Bacterian, Otokozuki, King Piccolo (Youth Restored), and Goku Black.

5) Anime Kitten vs. Android 16.

6) Geekdom101 vs. Whis.

7) Herms vs. Gowasu.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Nejishiki » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:16 pm

If we're throwing members in, I suggest VegerotEX vs the moderators. Administrators may not interfere. :lol:

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Noah » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:18 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:Kanzenshuu Forum Users vs. Dragon Ball Villains.
1) Even though Nickzambuto has some tricks up his sleeve he is no match for General Blue psychic abilities

2) Roronoa swordsmanship is useless against Buyon

3) Khin is pure-hearted, Devilmite Beam won't work on him, however he can't resist Akkuman attacks for too long

4) DanielSSJ easily smacks everyone but still loses horribly to Goku Black

5) Anime Kitten one-shots

6) I think by the last chapter implies that Whis and Geekdom101 are equals, so it could go either way

7) Herms is a wise warrior, expert of ancient tactics of the Gods, Gowasu stands no chance
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:31 pm

Noah wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Kanzenshuu Forum Users vs. Dragon Ball Villains.
1) Even though Nickzambuto has some tricks up his sleeve he is no match for General Blue psychic abilities

2) Roronoa swordsmanship is useless against Buyon

3) Khin is pure-hearted, Devilmite Beam won't work on him, however he can't resist Akkuman attacks for too long

4) DanielSSJ easily smacks everyone but still loses horribly to Goku Black

5) Anime Kitten one-shots

6) I think by the last chapter implies that Whis and Geekdom101 are equals, so it could go either way

7) Herms is a wise warrior, expert of ancient tactics of the Gods, Gowasu stands no chance
Eight) Noah vs Future Zamasu.

9) Sandubadear vs. Hit.

10) DanielSSJ vs. King of Destruction Baby Janemba, Super 17 (Super Perfect Cell Absorbed), Omega Shenron, and Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:35 pm

Nejishiki wrote:If we're throwing members in, I suggest VegerotEX vs the moderators. Administrators may not interfere. :lol:
An even better match up would be DanielSSJ vs. Arale Black. :twisted:
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Post by Anime Kitten » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:49 pm

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:07 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:An even better match up would be DanielSSJ vs. Arale Black. :twisted:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:52 am

Can't I get a stronger rival than General Blue?

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Post by DanielSSJ » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:00 am

nickzambuto wrote:Can't I get a stronger rival than General Blue?
How about Taopaipai?
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Post by nickzambuto » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:02 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:Can't I get a stronger rival than General Blue?
How about Taopaipai?
Now that's more like it.

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Post by Sandubadear » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:46 am

Me vs. Hit? I could totally just use my Star Platinum: The World to counter the Time-Skip.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:22 am

Sandubadear wrote:Me vs. Hit? I could totally just use my Star Platinum: The World to counter the Time-Skip.
Then how about this? Armed with only a Weird Mushroom and a Light Saber, Sandubadear has to fight Prince of Destruction Super Saiyan 3 Vegeta, Angered Golden Frieza, Semi-Perfect Cell (Self - Destruction Form), and Kid Buu (Southern Supreme Kai Absorbed). All while listening to Whis sing in the background....Tom Jones - What's New Pussycat.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:39 am

nickzambuto wrote:
DanielSSJ wrote:
nickzambuto wrote:Can't I get a stronger rival than General Blue?
How about Taopaipai?
Now that's more like it.
While listening to Baby from Justin Bieber in the background, DanielSSJ and Nickzambuto have to fight against Imperfect Cell in a game of Cat and Mouse with only Taopaipai and Ghost Nappa as their allies respectively. With the setting taking place in the Nostromo from Alien in outer space.

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