"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[sailorspazz]

Jesus, I go on vacation for just one day, and look at all the spoilers that appeared! Saw the bit about Zamasu being the one from the present yesterday, but had no time to post about it here...if I did, probably would've been something along the lines of "I called it bitches, lol", 'cause I'd been drinking a little

But now that I'm home and sober, I must say I CALLED...*ahem* I mean, yes this revelation fell perfectly in line with my expectations. It seemed to me when Zamasu was "destroyed" that there was still more to his plan that we hadn't seen yet, and he'd possibly managed to survive (or has a way to bring himself back to life). Can't wait to see what his big "according to plan" moment turns out to be

If that wasn't enough to get me hyped, then the title/summary spoilers came right after Biggest point of interest there is the Fusion revelation. Wonder what he'll look like, and what his name will be (It was pointed out earlier that the two 17s merged into Super 17 in GT... would be appropriate given this series' title. Or would they do something cutesy like Zama2? Or is Black really so into being Gokuu that the name would be Zamakuu or Gomasu?) Love the arrogance on display in the "praise and adore me!" episode title...trust me, I already do!

[alakazam^]

Wonder what he'll look like, and what his name will be (It was pointed out earlier that the two 17s merged into Super 17 in GT... would be appropriate given this series' title. Or would they do something cutesy like Zama2? Or is Black really so into being Gokuu that the name would be Zamakuu or Gomasu?) Love the arrogance on display in the "praise and adore me!" episode title...trust me, I already do!

The episode supposedly already tells us his name, "Merged Zamasu".

[Anime Kitten]

If the dub really is as close as you say to confirmation it should of been announced at NYCC it is the last big convention for the year. I highly doubt it gets announced before next year.

It's possible they may announce it on Twitter out of the Super Saiyan Blue, no? Xenoverse 2 came out of nowhere, I believe.

[rs_chaosmaster]

Not according to that. Black (at best) is probably only strong enough to win 1v1 against SSJB I doubt he could beat two of them at once.

All forms of Super Saiyan are multiplers of a Saiyan's base form. The higher the base, the stronger they are when they transformed. Even if Super Saiyan Rose is only equal to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan in power, Black is still stronger since his base form is much stronger than Goku and Vegeta's base forms.

And he probably could beat both of them at once since Goku couldn't even touch him the last time they fought.

I'm pretty sure SSR is blacks version of the regular super saiyan

If you mean super saiyan blue i agree if not hell no!! No way a SSJ would be able to take out a ssgss

[rs_chaosmaster]

Funimation has no licensing ties to Xenoverse 2 so of course it would just be a twitter announcement. :/

[Cetra]

They better not take Merged Zamas as real name or they have officially beaten Golden Freeza with their name giving.

[Anime Kitten]

If you mean super saiyan blue i agree if not hell no!! No way a SSJ would be able to take out a ssgss

It is his version of Super Saiyan. A recent scan had confirmed that.

Funimation has no licensing ties to Xenoverse 2 so of course it would just be a twitter announcement. :/

The announcement of Xenoverse 2 as a whole essentially came out of nowhere. That's what I meant.

They better not take Merged Zamas as real name or they have officially beaten Golden Freeza with their name giving.

Aww, but I like Golden Freeza! It's simple and easy.

[kinisking]

All forms of Super Saiyan are multiplers of a Saiyan's base form. The higher the base, the stronger they are when they transformed. Even if Super Saiyan Rose is only equal to Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan in power, Black is still stronger since his base form is much stronger than Goku and Vegeta's base forms.

And he probably could beat both of them at once since Goku couldn't even touch him the last time they fought.

I'm pretty sure SSR is blacks version of the regular super saiyan

If you mean super saiyan blue i agree if not hell no!! No way a SSJ would be able to take out a ssgss

His base is higher so his ssj will be higher.

I like Golden freeza too. Much better than Super saiyan blue imo.

[sailorspazz]

The episode supposedly already tells us his name, "Merged Zamasu".

Maybe he'll say that first out of simplicity, but he seems to enjoy being more flashy, like with the whole Rosé thing. Just being "merged Zamasu" seems a bit too plain...but maybe the following episode's "supreme god" is actually the name/title he chooses for himself (since he'd see being referred to as a mere Kaioushin as being beneath him in his merged form).

[FortuneSSJ]

They better not take Merged Zamas as real name or they have officially beaten Golden Freeza with their name giving.

Piccolo is still Piccolo after merging with Kami. Goku called him Kamiccolo but he didn't like it.

[Valerius Dover]

While this seems very likely it doesn't mean anything unfortunately. The Buu Saga for Kai already had its international release a year ago and in the US their is still nothing. Funimation and Toei need to get their act together this is becoming absolute BS!!!

Also not 100% sure on this but I expect Funimation to brand it as Dragon Ball Z Super.

Dragon Ball GT wasn't renamed Dragon Ball ZGT. What's your basis for this guess? And regarding the release date, "International" doesn't necessarily mean US. Several other countries have already announced their dubs. I wouldn't expect any activity from Funimation anytime soon.

[Cetra]

They better not take Merged Zamas as real name or they have officially beaten Golden Freeza with their name giving.

Piccolo is still Piccolo after merging with Kami. Goku called him Kamiccolo but he didn't like it.

Yes because he retained the consciousness of "Piccolo" but which consciousness will the fusion of Zamas and Black retain? Or will it be a collective? Or will it be a complete new individual, destroying both through the merger?

That is something we already talked about some pages ago.

[Sandubadear]

They better not take Merged Zamas as real name or they have officially beaten Golden Freeza with their name giving.

Piccolo is still Piccolo after merging with Kami. Goku called him Kamiccolo but he didn't like it.

Yes because he retained the consciousness of "Piccolo" but which consciousness will the fusion of Zamas and Black retain? Or will it be a collective? Or will it be a complete new individual, destroying both through the merger?

That is something we already talked about some pages ago.

Since both consciousness are Zamasu, nothing would change, only the power and immortality.

[ryou766]

but which consciousness will the fusion of Zamas and Black retain?

Does it matter? They have the same mind.

[Cetra]

Since both consciousness are Zamasu, nothing would change, only the power and immortality.

But it would change (in terms of existential questions). Two Zamas are still two people. Psychologically spoken when they both have an individual ego they are two people. Just like your clone is not you but his own person. If they would fuse into one and both cease to exist, no matter if that fusion would think identical, it would be another, new Zamas. And not them. And that is the point. Which is why I wonder how they will pull off the fusion. It being a collective or really a new one or, or, or ...

Oh and they do not literally have the "same" mind. Metaphorically yes but not literally. A mathemtics professor of mine brought up a ver good example about words like those once. I do not know how to translate it though.

[rs_chaosmaster]

What's your basis for this guess? And regarding the release date, "International" doesn't necessarily mean US. Several other countries have already announced their dubs. I wouldn't expect any activity from Funimation anytime soon.

Dragon Ball Kai being named Dragon Ball Z Kai. Toei and Funimation both being obsessed with that Z Branding. Was their any point to this 2nd part of the statement since you just agreed with what i said. LOL

[ryou766]

And not them. And that is the point. Which is why I wonder how they will pull off the fusion. It being a collective or really a new one or, or, or ...

That doesn't matter. It'll still be one Zamasu with the same ambition and features mixed with Goku.

[Cetra]

And not them. And that is the point. Which is why I wonder how they will pull off the fusion. It being a collective or really a new one or, or, or ...

That doesn't matter. It'll still be one Zamasu with the same ambition and features mixed with Goku.

It does matter to me.

If I want to achieve something but I give up my existence just so someone is created that is like me but it is not me then it matters to me.

[ryou766]

If I want to achieve something but i give up my existence just so someone is created that is like me but it is not me then it matters to me.

He was willing to comply with Black in the first place; who was him. Zamasu would more than likely be fine with someone else (him) accomplishing his goal, seeing as he agrees to fuse in the first place. It's still Zamasu at the end of the day.

[Cetra]

If I want to achieve something but i give up my existence just so someone is created that is like me but it is not me then it matters to me.

He was willing to comply with Black in the first place; who was him. Zamasu would more than likely be fine with someone else (him) accomplishing his goal, seeing as he agrees to fuse in the first place. It's still Zamasu at the end of the day.

I am afraid you do not understand this from a psychological view because it is not "literally him". He is one Zamas and the other one is another Zamas.