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by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:57 am
Anime Kitten wrote:TheUltimateNinja wrote:I'm curious about this trend of pitting real people against fictional powerhouses, I mean it's totally obvious that the real folks get wrecked hard, right? Is there some comedic element to this?
It's not the "real people", it's the users. So yes, there's a comedic element to this. It started back
here and continued for a bit afterward.
The distinction between "real people" and users seems quite arbitrary, what would those usernames refer to, then? Their online personas? Their avatars? Because a lot of people here have no avatar and simply act completely straightforward at all times.
Steven Bloodriver wrote:TheUltimateNinja wrote:Anime Kitten wrote:This isn't mini-modding so much as a preference, but some of you really need to put more into your posts here. Simply writing "X wins using Y effort" or "Z one-shots" without any logic to back that up is only going to raise questions, and potentially inaccuracies. Anyway, though...
DanielSSJ VS 100% Beerus
No "Hakai" or God of Destruction-only techniques allowed.
I'm curious about this trend of pitting real people against fictional powerhouses, I mean it's totally obvious that the real folks get wrecked hard, right? Is there some comedic element to this?
Yes, some of us have a bone to pick with the other.
1) Even if he had his potential unleashed by the Elder Kai, DanielSSJ would not have won against Beerus.
2) Whis vs. The entire Universe 6th Team.
Whis is considerably stronger than all of them, the only real problem is Botamo, but he can just lock him in that alternate dimension in his staff, for the rest he's strong enough to just oneshot them and Hit's timeskip is useless since Whis can just ignore it.
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by Anime Kitten » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:04 pm
TheUltimateNinja wrote:The distinction between "real people" and users seems quite arbitrary, what would those usernames refer to, then? Their online personas? Their avatars? Because a lot of people here have no avatar and simply act completely straightforward at all times.
Their personas. It's not like anyone is required to answer every match-up. If you don't find them humorous, that's all right.
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by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:08 pm
Anime Kitten wrote:TheUltimateNinja wrote:The distinction between "real people" and users seems quite arbitrary, what would those usernames refer to, then? Their online personas? Their avatars? Because a lot of people here have no avatar and simply act completely straightforward at all times.
Their personas. It's not like anyone is required to answer every match-up. If you don't find them humorous, that's all right.
I'm all for humor, actually.
1) Harambe vs Beerus
2) Harambe Black vs SSBlue Vegetto
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by DanielSSJ » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:09 pm
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
1) Even if he had his potential unleashed by the Elder Kai, DanielSSJ would not have won against Beerus.
I will have you know that I know the Mafuba, so Beerus might be spending some time in an electric rice cooker. Though I'm not too keen on killing myself to seal him away.
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by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:14 pm
DanielSSJ wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:
1) Even if he had his potential unleashed by the Elder Kai, DanielSSJ would not have won against Beerus.
I will have you know that I know the Mafuba, so Beerus might be spending some time in an electric rice cooker. Though I'm not too keen on killing myself to seal him away.
Mafuba is OP as shit if some random guy can use it to seal away a God of Destruction.
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by Alruneia » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:55 pm
TheUltimateNinja wrote:2) Harambe Black vs SSBlue Vegetto
Considering that Harambe Black has the ability to turn Rosé Oozaru, I say Vegito is in for a bad time.
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:
1) Alruneia vs. Android 17. (In a staring contest.)
1) 17 effortlessly wins.
yeah I cannot stare for the life of me
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
2) Uub (GT) vs. Kid Buu.
Judging from what shape Goku was in after sparring with Uub in the beginning of GT, and considering how Goku must have increased his power in the five year gap between EoZ and BoGT, I say Uub wins, at least in terms of strength. However, Buu's regeneration and... "gooeyness" make things difficult for Uub. It'd be a tough battle, that's for sure.
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by Zamasu55 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:13 pm
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Angelus wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).
LOL! Old King Piccolo one-shots. Mr. Satan can even get killed by a handgun shot, much more King Piccolo, young or old
Buutenks VS Ultimate/Mystic Gohan + Tien Potara Fusion
[No fusion time limit. No Tribeam hax. No candybeam or any more absorbing]
Buutenks wrecks Tenhan.
Steven Bloodriver wrote:In Brightest Day wrote:
Sorry, didn't see you had edited this. 21st Budokai Yamcha should be stronger than first appearance Goku considering he entered the tournament knowing an improved Goku would be entering and 21st Budokai Krillin is also far, far beyond first appearance Goku, but I get your meaning. In short, if Tommy is a match for first appearance Goku, he'd be vastly outmatched by the any of the main cast during the the 21st Budokai.
Only possibly Kid Goku and Jackie Chun from the 21st Budokai era would gave a Power Ranger an actual challenge as they (the Rangers themselves) would be far above the likes of Yamcha, Krillin, and especially Mr. Satan from also of that era.
But anyone capable of destroying a planet effortlessly like Vegeta during the Saiyan Saga would be too much for the Power Rangers to handle alone...
Roshi was already able to blow up the moon and move at massively hypersonic speeds in the 21st Budokai, at this point even Krillin could wreck all 5 rangers at the same time. You should go for weaker dudes.
Zamasu55 wrote:Sailor Haumea wrote:Here's four:
Ultimate Buu* vs. Super Janemba
Ultimate Buu vs. Hirudegarn
Ultimate Buu vs. Beerus
Ultimate Buu vs. Golden Frieza
*Also called Buuhan.
1. Super Janemba is in between Super Buu and Ultimate Gohan. So, he stands no chance against Buuhan.
2. Hirudegarn was on par with Ssj3 Goku, this is even a more one-sided match.
3. Are you serious?
4. First form Frieza (ROF) is more than enough.
1. Janemba is said to be above Hirudegarn who wrecked Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks with ease, plus Janemba has hax, he should take this.
2. Hirudegarn crushed Ultimate Gohan, but Buuhan is even more powerful plus he has regen and stuff so Buu wins.
3. Beerus one-shots.
4. Frieza one-shots.
That movie doesn't make sense, since Ssj2 Goku pulled off a better fight than Ultimate Gohan.
Super Janemba is probably Super Buu tier.
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by Zamasu55 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:15 pm
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Alruneia wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:3) Alruneia (armed with only a mirror) vs. Super Saiyan Vegeta (Androids Saga).
boi
Judging from TFS Vegeta, maybe I can point the mirror at him, which would stop him in his tracks as he wishes to take a look at himself.

1) Alruneia vs. Android 17. (In a staring contest.)
2) Super Buu (Base) vs. Fat Janemba. (Both are unable to regenerate.)
3) Hit vs. Future Zamasu.
4) Khin vs. KIng Cold.
5) Kid Buu vs. FIrst Form Frieza (
ROF)
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2. Super Buu, easily.
3. Future Zamasu can't die, Hit can't really do anything.
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5. Frieza toyed with the equivalent of Ultimate Gohan (Ssj ROF Gohan of course). Kid Buu is trash.
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by DanielSSJ » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:21 pm
Angelus wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:4) Old King Piccolo (with weighted cape) vs. Mr. Satan (Cell Games Saga).
LOL! Old King Piccolo one-shots. Mr. Satan can even get killed by a handgun shot, much more King Piccolo, young or old
Buutenks VS Ultimate/Mystic Gohan + Tien Potara Fusion
[No fusion time limit. No Tribeam hax. No candybeam or any more absorbing]
I'd be willing to bet that Piccolo Jr. upon hatching could beat Mr. Satan in one move.
I sorta doubt that Gohan and Tenshinhan would be a great pairing for fusion. There is a ridiculous power gap between the two, and they don't really have a similar mindset when it comes to fighting and martial arts. I think it's entirely possible that Goshihan would actually get weaker but might see an increase in skill and ability. Even if he gets stronger, it's not enough to overcome Boo's strength. Now if Tenshinhan merged with
Goku, I could see them managing something.
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by Sailor Haumea » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:50 pm
Grandpa Gohan runs the gauntlet!
Grandpa Gohan vs. Master Roshi (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Master Shen (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Mercenary Tao (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Korin
Grandpa Gohan vs. Hero (Kami)
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by In Brightest Day » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:54 pm
Steven Bloodriver wrote:In Brightest Day wrote:Steven Bloodriver wrote:
I once saw a Power Ranger lift a car and throw it with much less difficulty than what Goku did to Bulma's car from the beginning of Dragon Ball.
Are the Power Rangers bullet proof and is their overall durability, strength, speed, etc. all comparable to each other? Have any of the Rangers been able to replicate something close or above this level of strength:
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All of the Power Rangers have comparable power to each other when morphed. But each generation of them have very different powers and skills to call upon in battle. Even so, all of them while in their normal Human forms before morphing, would be on par or even stronger than Videl was before she had been trained by Gohan, but when morphed into a Power Ranger; their very own shortcomings in durability, strength, speed, and so on, would be overall immensely heightened to even beyond the point of normal Superhuman levels Yamcha had displayed when he had first fought Goku as the morphing into their Ranger Form would let them dominate someone even as strong as Spopovich and Yamu before and after they became servants to Babidi.
Right, but I asked you to provide proof of the Power Rangers being able to kick someone through three huge tree sized stone pillars, as Yamcha did to Goku in that scan.
Only possibly Kid Goku and Jackie Chun from the 21st Budokai era would gave a Power Ranger an actual challenge as they (the Rangers themselves) would be far above the likes of Yamcha, Krillin, and especially Mr. Satan from also of that era.
Earlier you were claiming Tommy Oliver would be a match for Beginning of Dragonball Goku. You know there is a huge gap between 21st Budokai Goku and beginning of DB Goku, right? Likewise, Krillin and Yamcha at the 21st Budokai are better than beginning of DB Goku. So, just to confirm, where does Tommy Oliver stand again?
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by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 6:56 pm
Sailor Haumea wrote:Grandpa Gohan runs the gauntlet!
Grandpa Gohan vs. Master Roshi (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Master Shen (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Mercenary Tao (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Korin
Grandpa Gohan vs. Hero (Kami)
Gohan gets wrecked by all of them, Roshi himself is above Gohan and all the folks on that list are at least Roshi level except for maybe Shen.
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by fadeddreams5 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:16 pm
Pre-immortality Zamasu gauntlet:
-SSJ Goku (Namek)
-Androids 18 and 17
-Android 16
-Semi-Perfect Cell
-Super Vegeta
-FPSSJ Goku
-Perfect Cell
-Dabura
-Super Perfect Cell
-Fat Buu
-Super Buu
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by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:37 pm
fadeddreams5 wrote:Pre-immortality Zamasu gauntlet:
-SSJ Goku (Namek)
-Androids 18 and 17
-Android 16
-Semi-Perfect Cell
-Super Vegeta
-FPSSJ Goku
-Perfect Cell
-Dabura
-Super Perfect Cell
-Fat Buu
-Super Buu
Assuming you mean Present Zamasu who fought SSJ2 Goku. he wrecks most of this list but stops at Super Buu, Buu's simply too powerful for him. In fact even Fat Buu could give him trouble with that insane regeneration.
On the other hand, if you mean Future Zamasu he effortlessly clears this entire list with minimal effort, he's far above their level.
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by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:38 pm
Sailor Haumea wrote:Grandpa Gohan runs the gauntlet!
Grandpa Gohan vs. Master Roshi (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Master Shen (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Mercenary Tao (as of Piccolo Jr. Saga)
Grandpa Gohan vs. Korin
Grandpa Gohan vs. Hero (Kami)
Grandpa Gohan gets stomped at all scenarios.
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about
your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:22 pm
PelicanDynasty wrote:SSJ Bacterian vs Nappa
Bacterian gets oneshotted. He'd need SSJ2 to even put up a fight.
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by Sailor Haumea » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:57 pm
Neko Majin Z vs. Goku (Peaceful World Saga)
To clarify, Goku has access to Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue.
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by TheUltimateNinja » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:05 pm
Sailor Haumea wrote:Neko Majin Z vs. Goku (Peaceful World Saga)
To clarify, Goku has access to Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue.
Neko Majin oneshots.
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by Sailor Haumea » Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:08 pm
TheUltimateNinja wrote:Sailor Haumea wrote:Neko Majin Z vs. Goku (Peaceful World Saga)
To clarify, Goku has access to Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan Blue.
Neko Majin oneshots.
Is he really that much stronger?!
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