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Chuquita wrote:
Someone did; I don't remember who, but someone on these forums back after BOG came out and before F was announced photoshopped an aqua-blue-haired ssj Vegeta and posted it here. Then later on someone else on the forum took a copy to show Ryo Horikawa at a Con and Horikawa liked how it looked.
Did that person indirectly contribute to bluper saiyan's design or was it independent of that? I dunno.
I doubt it. I don't think Horikawa is that close to Toriyama.
Chuquita wrote:
Someone did; I don't remember who, but someone on these forums back after BOG came out and before F was announced photoshopped an aqua-blue-haired ssj Vegeta and posted it here. Then later on someone else on the forum took a copy to show Ryo Horikawa at a Con and Horikawa liked how it looked.
Did that person indirectly contribute to bluper saiyan's design or was it independent of that? I dunno.
I doubt it. I don't think Horikawa is that close to Toriyama.
Yes, he did. This may indicate that an extended version of Resurrection F may exist and Goten may make an appearance in Resurrection F after all.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
dae428 wrote:Also it's quite clear that Toriyama wouldn't stoop that low. Seriously that's just silly.
Bluper Saiyan and Piss Freeza aren't?
Dude, you're misreading my post (I think anyways unless you're just starting some odd internet forum fight with me to which I shall gladly bow out of knowing that I am no match for the great and mighty Rocketman who has slain thousands of Toriyama fanboys and makes grown men, who aren't Toriyama fanboys cause they're well a tad dead... and the ones still alive flee from you as I do, cry with his acerbic wit and forthright brilliance in the truth of proper story. Oh woe is this humble noob in the presence of this high and mighty man who has been given the title of Rocketman.) or I guess just poking fun? I don't know... I'm actually pretty bad at getting these things...
I will say this though I am still fine with these two forms. I think while they may not be the most unique designs, they each do have their own charm and really have grown on me.
Bluper Saiyan is blue, but hey I don't hate it. At least it wasn't super complicated or a mix between Super Saiyan 3 and 4... With a cape... And maybe sunglasses cause sunglasses are cool... I will say that I still haven't gotten that used to the eyebrows yet... It still sticks out and feels out of places for some reason... Freeza's new look is something I actually like surprisingly. There are subtle differences to the head and shins that I'm really digging and the purple and gold while not blending together perfectly for me does look like something Freeza would choose if he were able to customize his own new form.
Flame Dragon wrote:Honestly, if a fanfiction writer came up with Blue SSJ, he would have been laughed at in this very site.
But since Toriyama did it, a lot of people are giving it a pass.
Which is BS.
(I don't dislike the form, i think it looks kinda cool. It's just boring/unoriginal tho)
Someone did; I don't remember who, but someone on these forums back after BOG came out and before F was announced photoshopped an aqua-blue-haired ssj Vegeta and posted it here. Then later on someone else on the forum took a copy to show Ryo Horikawa at a Con and Horikawa liked how it looked.
Did that person indirectly contribute to bluper saiyan's design or was it independent of that? I dunno.
That would be me
Though what I asked was if he'd prefer a Blue SSJ God Vegeta or a Red SSJ God Vegeta. 2 images done by someone named Menkyon had two versions of Vegeta next to Goku. One with red hair and one with blue hair. I showed him those images, and Mr. Horikawa said he liked the blue SSJ God Vegeta look more. This was before the SSGSS stuff, and back when it was speculated that maybe colours would be different for SSJ God forms (Which it in a way kinda is for stages of SSJ God...if the new thing is part of some new Super Saiyan God line).
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
OMG!
How!? When!? Where!?
looks like I'll have to watch the movie in Spanish first just for seeing if this is indeed an extended version
hope Beerus' voice doesn't irritate me so much while I watch it
Edit:
I just stopped the video when Goten line was thrown out of excitement sorry
But now listening to all of that, shouldnt all of the warriors' battles with Freeza's soldiers be over when Goku and Vegeta arrive to Earth?
why would Goku be screaming their names if they don't fight while he's there?
I now think that is fake
The first lines and grunts may be actual lines though.
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Sleeping until the tournament is over.
Spoiler:
Araki wrote:
These days people start throwing the words "filler" and "silce of life" everytime characters aren't punching each other. No matter if something is moving the plot or there's character exposition.
Imagine if DB started these days. It would go like this:
"hey, what's happening in Dragon Ball today?"
"Goku wants Mutenroshi to train him, so he's bringing him some chicks now."
"oh i see, just slice of life filler then. skippable. "
I believe he might have mistakenly said Goten instead of Gohan. The only moment where I think it would be ok to call his name would be when Freeza destroys the planet ...perhaps? Goten and Trunks got killed with the rest of the world.
Check out Journey's End, a short story of Goku and Vegeta's final days. "Time is running out for the last two Saiyans"
TheRed259 wrote:From a Japanese magazine about health (or sth like that).
That is magnificent.
Goku being on the cover of a health and fitness magazine is way overdue.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Beerus-sama wrote:
why would Goku be screaming their names if they don't fight while he's there?
Maybe it is from when they get killed by Freeza, before Whis turns back time?
They survived with Whis bubble barrier...
Sleeping until the tournament is over.
Spoiler:
Araki wrote:
These days people start throwing the words "filler" and "silce of life" everytime characters aren't punching each other. No matter if something is moving the plot or there's character exposition.
Imagine if DB started these days. It would go like this:
"hey, what's happening in Dragon Ball today?"
"Goku wants Mutenroshi to train him, so he's bringing him some chicks now."
"oh i see, just slice of life filler then. skippable. "