"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Shuby why do you want to show us all? Nobody asked for it. I think it is a well known fact among people who are informed about animation that Naruto (Studio Pierrot) stomps all of DB (Toei) in the animation department, so there's nothing to argue about.

As for your Z example, yes it had more impact but it has already been mentioned a gazillion times that Z had more talented staff, better schedule, more time and better directors while Super has almost none of it and despite that we still got this, this ,this and this so that's quite an accomplishment.

Although the animation is not the only factor that should be blamed. The kicks and punches lacking impact is more to do with the sound effects.

Ajay provided a great example of how much difference sound effects make.

Shida's cut with Arai's sound effects:

- Travis

[SansrivaaL]

True the sound effects in Super is a bit... you know, kiddie like, considering its aimed for kids thats to be expected tho.

[Yomi]

Those sound effects and old OST's always feels outdated, when thrown over DBS.
I don't know how to explain it, but it feels very 70's.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Those sound effects and old OST's always feels outdated, when thrown over DBS.
I don't know how to explain it, but it feels very 70's.

I disagree. Arai Hidenori's sound effects were also present in Kami to Kami and Fukkatsu no F. It didn't feel like 70s there. It was a very integral part of the franchise. Nishimura Mutsuhiro's sound effects in Super just doesn't feel right cause they barely have any impact, but that's just me.

- Travis

[Legion]

Come on! Now you're starting to sound ridiculous. you're 100% wrong, and view things completely upside down. Because in actuality.. It is up to YOU to prove how someone can go against a wish made by an omnipotent dragon. Until that time, I'm right and Beerus is lying.
Beerus has lied many times before,(THAT we know off!) and now he's claiming to "kill" a litteral immortal.. What's more likely? That he is speaking the truth, or.. As usual, that he's bluffing again??

Lol sure, exactly like you're 100% wrong about "Zamaku">>all except Zeno and that no one can erase or seal him, no doubt about this. And again, i don't see any evidence that Zamasu cannot be erased by the Gods just because he expressed his desire with the super dragon balls. But it's useless to continue this discussion.

Except Beerus did not have good reasons to lie though.

Seriously? Beerus lied about 100% of his power for motivate Goku and he lied about Monaka for motivate, again, Goku and Vegeta. They can be silly reasons, but he had a reason.

About the timelines, he never lied, he was just wrong. But this is still unclear, because Black said that is still alive thanks to the time ring, so.....

Anyway, this has nothing to do with his power.

I don't think he "lies" often, just talks out of his ass.

Guys, if you want to downplay Beerus, fine, i don't care, but just find a better arguments.

[HeroR]

Those sound effects and old OST's always feels outdated, when thrown over DBS.
I don't know how to explain it, but it feels very 70's.

Good to know it wasn't just me. Watching the original OST for Dragon Ball Z always made the show feel older to me. I personally prefer Super's sound effects.

[ArchedThunder]

My main issue with Super's sound effects is just that they need to make the hit and explosion sounds louder.

[thegamer23]

Wondering if they'all reveal the Merged Zamasu in the Episode 64 preview already.

Black Rose was shown in the previous week preview if I remember correctly

[dbzfan7]

I don't think any of the fight animation is bad lately. It's been pretty solid. But I gotta agree, it lacks the raw impact it should have. Nothing really feels as escalated as it should. Goku vs Beerus was able to get this right with the stakes of their fight and show just how godly they were. But now, it doesn't feel like we're worlds or dimensions above the previous levels. Take early Dragon Ball towards the end of the first half. Fights slowly escalated and grew grander, more wild, with more impact, speed, and power. I'm not talking about story here, I'm talking about the fighting in general. That's not to say later fights were automatically better than earlier ones, but they felt bigger and more dangerous/destructive. A problem that GT and Super have, is it hardly feels like we've really been escalating. Outside of Goku vs Beerus that took things to the limit, we're back at levels that feel like any other fight without context. Without words you can tell the escalation of action Dragon Ball had as the series progressed. Without context in the later series of Dragon Ball, you couldn't really tell as it felt tamer by comparison. This ain't a knock on the animation itself which is pretty cool and fluid, especially in the Black arc...but the overall feeling itself and impact I think is lacking.

[Pannaliciour]

It feels weird that this arc is ending (if I think it is) j this soon. What happend with the many episode like the android/cell and buu saga not to mention freeza.

Either way these upcoming episode can win or break this arc. God I hope toei doesn't mess this up.

If these upcoming episode are good and there will be some kind of suprise element (like cell) this could be easily one of the best arc.

[nite_jay]

Yeah, the fact that the animation has improved makes me commend Toei for their hard work, but them not doing the simplest thing like using the old sound effects library is crazy to me. Especially when adding the old sound effects alone would remedy most of things like the lack of impact in fights.

[Bansho64]

Those sound effects and old OST's always feels outdated, when thrown over DBS.
I don't know how to explain it, but it feels very 70's.

I'm not sure what you mean by "70s". They honestly sound timeless to me. Hearing them is like having someone giving my ears the most relaxing massage.

[Noah]

I don't think any of the fight animation is bad lately. It's been pretty solid. But I gotta agree, it lacks the raw impact it should have. Nothing really feels as escalated as it should. Goku vs Beerus was able to get this right with the stakes of their fight and show just how godly they were. But now, it doesn't feel like we're worlds or dimensions above the previous levels. Take early Dragon Ball towards the end of the first half. Fights slowly escalated and grew grander, more wild, with more impact, speed, and power. I'm not talking about story here, I'm talking about the fighting in general. That's not to say later fights were automatically better than earlier ones, but they felt bigger and more dangerous/destructive. A problem that GT and Super have, is it hardly feels like we've really been escalating. Outside of Goku vs Beerus that took things to the limit, we're back at levels that feel like any other fight without context. Without words you can tell the escalation of action Dragon Ball had as the series progressed. Without context in the later series of Dragon Ball, you couldn't really tell as it felt tamer by comparison. This ain't a knock on the animation itself which is pretty cool and fluid, especially in the Black arc...but the overall feeling itself and impact I think is lacking.

I agree pretty much with this, I'd miss the "The whole planet/universe is shaking with all that power"

[Lujin_16]

Wondering if they'all reveal the Merged Zamasu in the Episode 64 preview already.

Black Rose was shown in the previous week preview if I remember correctly

Yes Black Rose was shown in the preview but i still believe we will see the Merged Zamasu at the end of episode 63

[Noah]

Can't say I'm not anxious for his first appearance, hope for a not awful design, though

[Lujin_16]

Strange no leaks for the Merged Zamasu or news for Episode 64-65-66 maybe they have changed not to spoil since Simulcast

[Lujin_16]

Can't say I'm not anxious for his first appearance, hope for a not awful design, though

He will not look friendly i am sure about that

[Noah]

He will not look friendly i am sure about that You know even when the design is good teher are some who will complain about that..

Well, the title of his episode debut says "Adore me!" it could be something elegant, maybe...

Zamasu in a tuxedo

[Kanassa]

He will not look friendly i am sure about that You know even when the design is good teher are some who will complain about that..

Well, the title of his episode debut says "Adore me!" it could be something elegant, maybe...

Zamasu in a tuxedo

Oh, but Zamasu. We already do! Have you not been to Rule 34 lately?

[Noah]

Oh, but Zamasu. We already do! Have you not been to Rule 34 lately?

Yea... And didn't like much what I saw in the second image of Dragon_ball_super/1 list