Moments FUNimation's English Dub Did Better?

[Lord Exor]

You're acting like you've never heard someone say that the dub is better than the original, penguintruth.

And it's still hilarious.

Is there a reasonable impetus for your condescension, or does deindividuation grant you the chutzpah required to denounce adverse opinions while evoking a sense of smug superiority?

[penguintruth]

Is there a reasonable impetus for your condescension, or does deindividuation grant you the chutzpah required to denounce adverse opinions while evoking a sense of smug superiority?

Really, you're trying way too hard. There's articulate, and then there's playing a character.

[Kaboom]

Let's all flip our jackass switches to their "off" positions, please.

[Lord Exor]

Is there a reasonable impetus for your condescension, or does deindividuation grant you the chutzpah required to denounce adverse opinions while evoking a sense of smug superiority?

Really, you're trying way too hard. There's articulate, and then there's playing a character.

So confrontational. Perhaps your belligerence stems from some intangible traumatic experience.

Let's all flip our jackass switches to their "off" positions, please.

Very well.

[VegettoEX]

"Sighan" sounds bad in English for the same reason Yamhan does. English is a descendant of German and inherited that language's tendency for gutteral noises. Those names don't have a hard noise and thus sound far too soft, especially the one that's a homonym for the voiceless onomatopoeia "sighin'".

It's impossible to tell, since it didn't actually turn out this way, but I'd be curious if you'd say that if it had just been pronounced correctly in FUNimation's dub from the start and the "say" never existed in our ears.

I certainly have no problem saying it correctly... and it doesn't sound "bad" to me... it... just is what it is.

Tossing my administration weight behind Kaboom's request, by the way, as well. If you can't converse nicely and politely, this is not the message board for you.

[Perfect]

I always figured it sounded fine as well. The "ai" in Saiyan makes the "I" sound in English generally. It doesn't make too much sense to just disregard that. Or maybe I'm missing something.

[Li'l Lemmy]

It sounds "weird" because you're used to a different pronunciation.


~Da Lemmy

[Taku128]

Is there a reasonable impetus for your condescension, or does deindividuation grant you the chutzpah required to denounce adverse opinions while evoking a sense of smug superiority?

Somebody's been visiting thesaurus.com!

[Lord Exor]

Is there a reasonable impetus for your condescension, or does deindividuation grant you the chutzpah required to denounce adverse opinions while evoking a sense of smug superiority?

Somebody's been visiting thesaurus.com!

That detraction is stale and fallacious.

[linkdude20002001]

"Sighan" sounds bad in English for the same reason Yamhan does. English is a descendant of German and inherited that language's tendency for gutteral noises. Those names don't have a hard noise and thus sound far too soft, especially the one that's a homonym for the voiceless onomatopoeia "sighin'".

Plenty of German and English words are soft sounding like Saiyan. I don't see why that or Yamhan sound "bad" in English. There is no logic to what you're saying: Saiyan... Ryan...

[Great Saiyaman I]

Is there a reasonable impetus for your condescension, or does deindividuation grant you the chutzpah required to denounce adverse opinions while evoking a sense of smug superiority?

Somebody's been visiting thesaurus.com!

That detraction is stale and fallacious.

I'm pretty sure he was joking. You are mad, right? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I always figured it sounded fine as well. The "ai" in Saiyan makes the "I" sound in English generally. It doesn't make too much sense to just disregard that. Or maybe I'm missing something.

"Ai" is always pronounced "eye" in Japanese. In English it very rarely is. Here's a list of words with "ai", so you can see for yourself.

[Perfect]

Erm, I should have worded that better. I meant to say English words from a Japanese origin. I'm not sure if I said that right either. Words like Kaio-ken or just kai. They both work just fine in the English dub.

[Gaffer Tape]

"Sighan" sounds bad in English for the same reason Yamhan does. English is a descendant of German and inherited that language's tendency for gutteral noises. Those names don't have a hard noise and thus sound far too soft, especially the one that's a homonym for the voiceless onomatopoeia "sighin'".

Plenty of German and English words are soft sounding like Saiyan. I don't see why that or Yamhan sound "bad" in English. There is no logic to what you're saying: Saiyan... Ryan...

How about "science"? English speakers don't seem to have trouble with that one. Rocketman's just blowing smoke on this one. And even if it were quantifiably true, I still don't see how that justifies changing the pronounciation.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

FUNimation's English Dub is superlative in every category.

I think you've come to the wrong forum.

Kai is a joke.

Are we watching the same Kai dub?

People seem to be misinterpreting my comment. I was just saying that since he's a dub fan and this forum is mainly Japanese fans only, I was thinking maybe he'd enjoy a forum that has more dub fans.

[Rocketman]

How about "science"? English speakers don't seem to have trouble with that one.

Science is Latin in origin and was pronounced ski-en-tia when it arrived in English. It mutated over the last thousand years into a form we all accept because it's 'just how it's done'.

It's impossible to tell, since it didn't actually turn out this way, but I'd be curious if you'd say that if it had just been pronounced correctly in FUNimation's dub from the start and the "say" never existed in our ears.

And if the colonies lost the war, I'd be singing God Save The Queen too.

Although, right now, I'm not sure what my point was. I'm gonna go with "Just because it sounds right to a long-time fan of the JP version doesn't mean it's not weird".

[Gaffer Tape]

How about "science"? English speakers don't seem to have trouble with that one.

Science is Latin in origin and was pronounced ski-en-tia when it arrived in English. It mutated over the last thousand years into a form we all accept because it's 'just how it's done'.

So...? How is that relevant? One could just as easily argue that Saiyan could come over from Japan intact, and we would all accept it because it's "just how it's done." It's still a prime example of how that exact same sound is reproduced in English without our eardrums all bleeding out because of the "weirdness." In fact, hey, it seems to have evolved into that very sound because it is natural to us. Thanks for proving my point for me.

Although, right now, I'm not sure what my point was. I'm gonna go with "Just because it sounds right to a long-time fan of the JP version doesn't mean it's not weird".

And likewise, you could just as easily say, "Just because it sounds wrong to a long-time fan of the English version doesn't mean that it IS weird."

[Kid Buu]

Vegeta's final flash for sure, still my favourite dubbed scene.

[Nippolyte]

- Gohan going super saiyan 2 at the Martial Arts Tournament
- The Z team reminiscing about Goku after he decides not to be wished back.

[Lord Exor]

I'm pretty sure he was joking. You are mad, right? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.

Half sarcasm, half serious.