"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed May 21, 2014 4:38 pm

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Hellspawn28 wrote:We had enough with Spike's BS after 2007.
Couldn't agree more. Let's hope it's a 2D fighter.
And if these early pics are cutscenes then the game's gonna have some pretty sweet in-game graphics, heck Burst Limit still remains as the best looking Dragon Ball game to date, but it feels like Dimps were supposed to have made a sequel to it that never happened at least that's what the ending of BL gave me the impression of.

I wish this'd be "Burst Limit 2" but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by FortuneSSJ » Wed May 21, 2014 4:39 pm

chaospunishment wrote:
coola wrote:take break from DB games for at least a 2 years.
They already did. We got Battle of Z
Sad but true xD. They completely screwed up.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Rukura » Wed May 21, 2014 5:07 pm

That Goku on the site sure looks like a Dimps face, except even better.

I want Dimps to come back as much as the next guy...but aren't they busy with Ultra Street Fighter IV? Then again, they did Saint Seiya Brave Soldiers that seems like a nice evolution of The Hades on PS2. So there is hope. I guess all we need is that trailer to see who it is for sure :P
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by budokaifanatic007 » Wed May 21, 2014 5:10 pm

Rukura wrote:That Goku on the site sure looks like a Dimps face, except even better.

I want Dimps to come back as much as the next guy...but aren't they busy with Ultra Street Fighter IV? Then again, they did Saint Seiya Brave Soldiers that seems like a nice evolution of The Hades on PS2. So there is hope. I guess all we need is that trailer to see who it is for sure :P
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed May 21, 2014 5:14 pm

Rukura wrote:That Goku on the site sure looks like a Dimps face, except even better.

I want Dimps to come back as much as the next guy...but aren't they busy with Ultra Street Fighter IV? Then again, they did Saint Seiya Brave Soldiers that seems like a nice evolution of The Hades on PS2. So there is hope. I guess all we need is that trailer to see who it is for sure :P
Ultra Street Fighter IV is just Super Street Fighter IV with extra DLC, but they did list a bunch of improvements exclusive to USFIV although it shouldn't take too long for them since they already nailed it otherwise people would be dissatisfied with it.

Street Fighter IV tournaments are pretty damn awesome and the narrators make it even better with their craziness. :twisted:

It's a shame Capcom isn't releasing Ultra Street Fighter IV for the current-gen consoles.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Rukura » Wed May 21, 2014 5:19 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:Ultra Street Fighter IV is just Super Street Fighter IV with extra DLC, but they did list a bunch of improvements exclusive to USFIV although it shouldn't take too long for them since they already nailed it otherwise people would be dissatisfied with it.
That's not quite true. There's (seemingly) actually a lot being done with Ultra, which is why it wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't do anything else. Though they did Brave Soldiers, so that point is void. (By the time it's done, they'll probably release it for current gen consoles as well.)

Oh, by the way, just noticed the Dragon Ball Kai logo on the game's page.
I wonder if this'll be the first home console game using the "Kai" title? (Only to have it swapped by Z for the western releases, of course)
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Quebaz » Wed May 21, 2014 5:29 pm

Rukura wrote:
dbboxkaifan wrote:Ultra Street Fighter IV is just Super Street Fighter IV with extra DLC, but they did list a bunch of improvements exclusive to USFIV although it shouldn't take too long for them since they already nailed it otherwise people would be dissatisfied with it.
That's not quite true. There's (seemingly) actually a lot being done with Ultra, which is why it wouldn't surprise me if they couldn't do anything else. Though they did Brave Soldiers, so that point is void. (By the time it's done, they'll probably release it for current gen consoles as well.)

Oh, by the way, just noticed the Dragon Ball Kai logo on the game's page.
I wonder if this'll be the first home console game using the "Kai" title? (Only to have it swapped by Z for the western releases, of course)
Most of it is done tho, as it is already in the Japanese arcades with the console release following in the next 2 months.

Also, getting hopes up that it's DiMPS. The Goku model on the website looks really an HD version of his Budokai 3 counterpart, but I dunno, I still get Spike vibes from the Goku vs Vegeta screens.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Cold Skin » Wed May 21, 2014 5:45 pm

I didn't notice it until you said it, but yeah, there's the Dragon Ball Kai logo.

That's a bit unexpected, but since it would participate to the promo for the Boo arc in Japan, that makes sense.
It would also be a way to "erase the past" with the limited appeal recent games had: "yeah, okay, we messed up the Dragon Ball Z video game franchise... but now, we start fresh with great games again by starting the Dragon Ball Kai video game franchise! Dragon Ball Z went down, but try this new game series named Dragon Ball Kai: Budokai!"

Of course, there were already Dragon Ball Kai games before in Japan, but I think all of them were turned to Dragon Ball Z in Western countries.
So having the Dragon Ball Z Kai logo on the game for Western countries would be a way to say "look, you see it even just looking at the title and the cover: it's not the same anymore, don't expect the low quality you had these last years!"

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Rukura » Wed May 21, 2014 5:49 pm

"Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Z" followed by "Dragon Ball Kai: BudoKAI"? That'd be pretty funny, actually :lol:
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Drev » Wed May 21, 2014 8:57 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Drev wrote:Saint Seiya Senki (by Dimps) for PS3 was good (at least the duels 1v1), but Brave Warriors is too much "Storm-like", and in fact it sucks.
Saint Seiya: Sanctuary Battle is like another Dynasty Warriors bs game except when it comes to the fighting it's actually pretty good, same goes for Saint Seiya: Brave Soldiers (thank god this one doesn't have the shitty Dynasty Warriors clone to it).
Hellspawn28 wrote:If it's Dimps then I'm going to bet that they will slap the Budokai name on it for marketing reasons.
"Dragon Ball Z: Budokai Extreme Battle!!" :P
yeah i was referring to duels...but brave soldiers screw them, it's like another naruto storm: bad.
But at least Senki was good (duels), not the sequel

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Wed May 21, 2014 10:07 pm

Both Ultra Street Fighter IV and Freedom Wars ship next month. Any post-launch support will likely be handled by a smaller team. Unless SEGA is preparing a new game for 2015, their Sonic team should be free too.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by hulkty » Wed May 21, 2014 10:16 pm

Can someone explain why DIMPS is so good?

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by dbboxkaifan » Wed May 21, 2014 10:37 pm

Drev wrote:Yeah i was referring to duels...but brave soldiers screw them, it's like another naruto storm: bad.
But at least Senki was good (duels), not the sequel
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You're right the fighting gameplay of Brave Soldiers is a mix of Naruto Storm along with its own of Dimps' Saint Seiya, I recall having this game on pre-order but then decided to cancel because I'm not a fan of the Storm series and the Pegasus Fantasy theme wasn't included.
hulkty wrote:Can someone explain why DIMPS is so good?
You've not played Dimps' games to know it yourself?

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Hellspawn28 » Wed May 21, 2014 10:44 pm

hulkty wrote:Can someone explain why DIMPS is so good?
They know how to make good games. They put effort into game even if it's rush. Budokai 3 was never fully finish, but it was still awesome.
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Post by Captain-Sora » Wed May 21, 2014 10:49 pm

hulkty wrote:Can someone explain why DIMPS is so good?
They prioritize gameplay over everything else so most of their titles wind up pretty polished and playable. They're also capable of making some substancial improvements, refreshing changes, and a good deal of additional content with each succeeding installment built off of a previous one.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by Chuquita » Wed May 21, 2014 11:07 pm

Looking at the Gokû character model; I cannot un-see that out of place pouty-lip thing he's got going on there. XD I'm guessing/hoping that's just the low lighting in the shot.
I do appreciate the stray hairs though, and I like that the face isn't as wide as some of Spike's versions of him. This still isn't my favorite model though; even with the limitations of the graphics at the time, I always kinda liked the proportions on Dimps' character faces. Dimps along with the Super DBZ models are my favorites.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by dariend777 » Thu May 22, 2014 2:43 am

I really would prefer a zenkai battle royale type of game play in this game. Except I want one on one battles and not just team battle and free for alls. I was just looking at some zenkai royale gameplay and it does seem to capture the feel of dbz the most out of the games we've seen. IMO
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu May 22, 2014 3:15 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:They know how to make good games.
But they don't know how to make good DBZ games. I liked their games (IW was my favorite from them), but the fights look nothing like they did in the series. Same with Super DBZ, it's a great game, but not a great DBZ game. They could work as fighting games of the original Dragon Ball anime... But none of the fights in the Budokai games look like the fights in DBZ.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu May 22, 2014 3:45 am

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:But they don't know how to make good DBZ games. I liked their games (IW was my favorite from them), but the fights look nothing like they did in the series. Same with Super DBZ, it's a great game, but not a great DBZ game. They could work as fighting games of the original Dragon Ball anime... But none of the fights in the Budokai games look like the fights in DBZ.
Of course it's just your opinion but they do according to others, and personally, the battles are a lot better done in the Budokai games than Tenkaichi or Raging Blast series, as well as the beam clashes look a lot nicer and more balanced whereas in Spike titles it's just moving the analogue stick around quickly as possible and you'd win it.

Super Dragon Ball Z for recreating Tenkaichi Tournament battles has the fans covered so again, it is a Dragon Ball Z game.

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I'm guessing you got a little too used to playing Dragon Ball Z games from behind the shoulder (3rd person view) and now have this mentality as if it were really the case, sure you don't like them but saying they don't feel like it is just wrong.
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Re: The First PlayStation 4 Game Cometh

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu May 22, 2014 3:53 am

No, it's a fact that the fights in the Budokai games look nothing like the fights in DBZ.

And read my post more carefully. As games, I do like them, and they are fun to play, and I'm still playing them occasionally. I'm also not comparing with the Sparking!/Raging/Ultimate Blast & BoZ games, I'm comparing them with the series itself. And the fact is, it doesn't feel like I'm having a fight from DBZ. In the Budokai series & Super DBZ, you just stand in an island and fight. In DBZ, the fighters destroy the island and fly around while fighting, and they may even change their stage while fighting.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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