Death Battle: Goku vs Superman 2

[Doctor.]

See, my problem with this is that Goku trained hard to reach that 300 PL. He trained with Kami (a.k.a. God), he traveled the world, he drank the ultra divine water after a trial (not sure if that was anime exclusive), and he probably continued training after the battle with Piccolo. Besides the RoSAT, which he simply could not handle (and thus, Roshi probably wouldn't be able to either), and gravity chamber, these are all the training methods available on Earth.

Raditz figured he'd be useful because he's a saiyan. Saiyans are always useful in the eyes of other saiyans because of their ever-increasing PLs. There was a moment he considered kidnapping Gohan too.

If Freeza's army consists of aliens with 100 PL, they should've been able to drop them like flies after a single sneeze. They should all possess, at the very least, a PL of 500-1000, which is below Raditz and the saibamen, but way above Roshi.

No matter which way you look at it, Roshi beating these guys is an asspull. Add to the fact that he's even more ancient than before. There's no indication as to how he's able to go into 100% so easily either.

If Kuririn & co can increase their power from being in the same realm as Roshi to the hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions in two years, are you saying it's not believable that Roshi could increase his power a few dozens or hundreds in around 20? Are you serious right now? Dragon Ball is not a stranger to ridiculous power boosts, THIS is not one of them. Roshi is so insignificant (he was the only one who was tired in the movie after all) that saying "Oh, by the way, he trained a bit" would make absolutely nobody care and would be pretty pointless.

[dbzfan7]

If the next Death Match with a DBZ character isn't Beerus vs Asura I'm going to be disappointed

I'd rather Hulk vs Asura.

[SMKirbyZX]

In this case, Goku has a higher chance of winning. But then again, this is ScrewAttack we're talking about...

Kirby beat Majin Buu.

Goku has no hope.

That is all.

Kirby should have won, but he won in the wrong way. Plus, he should have had a MUCH harder time.

[dbzfan7]

In this case, Goku has a higher chance of winning. But then again, this is ScrewAttack we're talking about...

Kirby beat Majin Buu.

Goku has no hope.

That is all.

But.... but... Vegeta defeated Shadow..... oh wait, nevermind

I don't get this....at all. What does any of that have to do with results?

[pacz360]

If the next Death Match with a DBZ character isn't Beerus vs Asura I'm going to be disappointed

Hulk vs asura seem better imo

[pacz360]

In this case, Goku has a higher chance of winning. But then again, this is ScrewAttack we're talking about...

Kirby beat Majin Buu.

Goku has no hope.

That is all.

Kirby should have won, but he won in the wrong way. Plus, he should have had a MUCH harder time.

My problem is that they practically nerf the shit outta of buu ignoring stuff that he did tank etc

[SansrivaaL]

I don't get this....at all. What does any of that have to do with results?

If you didnt get it then you dont need to. Besides I was simply humoring the guy.

[fadeddreams5]

If Kuririn & co can increase their power from being in the same realm as Roshi to the hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions in two years, are you saying it's not believable that Roshi could increase his power a few dozens or hundreds in around 20? Are you serious right now? Dragon Ball is not a stranger to ridiculous power boosts, THIS is not one of them. Roshi is so insignificant (he was the only one who was tired in the movie after all) that saying "Oh, by the way, he trained a bit" would make absolutely nobody care and would be pretty pointless.

I mean, it's not a major issue, but it is an asspull.

Krillin trained for a year for the saiyans in Kami's lookout and got his powers increased by Guru. He continued to train 3 years for the androids. Yamcha and Tien trained the same way, but also received training from King Kai. We visually see this.

Roshi retired a long time ago, and has never, ever been shown to train. Even if he did, it'd have to be insanely hardcore for him to achieve the gains he seemingly did, considering he simply does not possess the talents of the other humans, who could learn and master the kamehameha so effortlessly. It took Roshi 50 years to do this, and he never even learned how to fly. I believe he admits how much they've surpassed him at the end of DB. In the movie, Tien says he told Yamcha to stay behind. Yet... Master Roshi is able to hold his own? You realize this is an ancient man who should actually be getting weaker with age?

No explanation is given. It's the same sort of crap GT pulled, which is why it irks me.

In this case, Goku has a higher chance of winning. But then again, this is ScrewAttack we're talking about...

Kirby beat Majin Buu.

Goku has no hope.

That is all.

Kirby should have won, but he won in the wrong way. Plus, he should have had a MUCH harder time.

I don't know much about Kirby, but I figure he should have won by eating one of the pieces of Buu (which he's known to detach from himself in combat), gaining his abilities, and utilizing the warp star. I'd be okay with that.

But in the video, somehow, he was matching Buu's speed (w/o warp star), and won by having access to so many outside resources. It was incredibly unfair.

[dbzfan7]

I don't get this....at all. What does any of that have to do with results?

If you didnt get it then you dont need to. Besides I was simply humoring the guy.

There's no shame in explaining anything.

[Bullza]

If the next Death Match with a DBZ character isn't Beerus vs Asura I'm going to be disappointed

I'd rather Hulk vs Asura.

Hulk needs to be saved for a Death Battle with Doomsday. He'd be no match at all for Asura.

Plus Asura is a God who can effortlessly destroy planets and stars and can fly through space at ridiculous speeds and Beerus is the same. That'd be a good match up I think.

[dbzfan7]

If the next Death Match with a DBZ character isn't Beerus vs Asura I'm going to be disappointed

I'd rather Hulk vs Asura.

Hulk needs to be saved for a Death Battle with Doomsday. He'd be no match at all for Asura.

Plus Asura is a God who can effortlessly destroy planets and stars and can fly through space at ridiculous speeds and Beerus is the same. That'd be a good match up I think.

Hulk and Asura are the epitome of characters who gain strength through rage. The madder they are, the stronger they get. I don't see Beerus or Doomsday having much in common with either of these two. Especially Beerus. Usually there is a theme for each match up, I don't see much in those other matches.

[Bullza]

That's true but an Asura vs Hulk match up would be so one sided that it would be a pointless battle to have. Asura in his strongest form was bigger than a planet, he was MFTL and could destroy a dozen planets at a time that were being thrown at him.

Beerus would be a capable match for him and them both being somewhat angry Gods based on Japanese properties would be a nice fit.

Hulk and Doomsday have always been compared and they're incredibly powerful monsters with limited intelligence from Western comics.

[dbzfan7]

That's true but an Asura vs Hulk match up would be so one sided that it would be a pointless battle to have. Asura in his strongest form was bigger than a planet, he was MFTL and could destroy a dozen planets at a time that were being thrown at him.

Beerus would be a capable match for him and them both being somewhat angry Gods based on Japanese properties would be a nice fit.

Hulk and Doomsday have always been compared and they're incredibly powerful monsters with limited intelligence from Western comics.

We has Thor vs Raiden, and it could be said Goku vs Superman is incredibly onesided too.

[singsing]

Doomsday vs Hulk would have to be one of the weaker versions of Doomsday versus one of the stronger version of Hulk to be fair. Stuff like HP DD would wreck any form of Hulk.

[Bullza]

We has Thor vs Raiden, and it could be said Goku vs Superman is incredibly onesided too.

I'm not that familiar with Raiden but the sheer amount of discussion and varying opinions on the Goku vs Superman fight and the it having more dislikes than any of the others makes the fight seem not as one sided as the stats in the video showed.

I think we'd get a Hulk vs Broly Death Battle before we got with one Asura.

[dbzfan7]

We has Thor vs Raiden, and it could be said Goku vs Superman is incredibly onesided too.

I'm not that familiar with Raiden but the sheer amount of discussion and varying opinions on the Goku vs Superman fight and the it having more dislikes than any of the others makes the fight seem not as one sided as the stats in the video showed.

I think we'd get a Hulk vs Broly Death Battle before we got with one Asura.

Thor vs Raiden is one of if not the biggest stomp I think the creators admitted too. They were surprised they could make it entertaining despite how one sided it was. I think that has huge dislikes cause a bunch of people haven't actually checked out the comics and only go by animated Superman.

I hate that idea, but not as much as Mewtwo vs Freeza. Hulk and Broly don't even have that much in common. Broly is a psycho and really only angry towards Goku and Vegeta. Hulk has far more depth to him and his rage brings forth his power. Broly doesn't have the same attribute as Hulk much to people who think Broly's ki keeps going up endlessly, which it doesn't. Hulk probably has more connection to Grundy or Doomsday than Broly.

[pacz360]

I gonna be complete honest does anybody take death battle seriously most of the time when you look at their so called research it heavily flawed their practically nitpick feats here while ignoring other feats the character done.

[FoolsGil]

There is no point to do a rematch. As Wiz and Boomstick stated previously, one character lives to break his limits, the other one has no limits. Giving Goku SSG, or SSGSS isn't going to change anything.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

There is no point to do a rematch. As Wiz and Boomstick stated previously, one character lives to break his limits, the other one has no limits. Giving Goku SSG, or SSGSS isn't going to change anything.

Superman having no limits is a fallacy.

[singsing]

Hulk theoretically has no limits either, doesn't mean anything. Let's say something has an infinite linear increase, while something else has an exponential increase. Who wins? Superman can theoretically get stronger and stronger, that doesn't mean he will and that doesn't mean he can beat everyone. If Goku breaks his limits faster than Superman can get stronger due to having no limits, he wins.