Dragon Ball Z Being Re-edited and Re-dubbed for HDTV

[SSj_Rambo]

I'm saying it will be about a month before we see this mentioned on the Jump Dragonball Blog, but when we do, I'm sure there'll be a lot of good info.

The only problem is, whenever they post screenshots they always seem very sub-par.

[ukoziak]

Aren't most Blu-rays region-free these days? Don't really think Europeans have to worry about that.

I mean, try to find a Japanese (anime) Blu-ray that's region locked...

[EricM]

Aren't most Blu-rays region-free these days? Don't really think Europeans have to worry about that.

I mean, try to find a Japanese (anime) Blu-ray that's region locked...

See this site: http://bluray.liesinc.net/

[Castor Troy]

So, okay, if this remake is cut down to only include every scene from the manga and nothing else... and then FUNi licenses it... and then Daimao translates it...

We may finally get that Steve Simmons manga translation we've all been wanting!

And yes, if this is released on Blu-Ray in Japan and FUNi decides to not license it, I'm importing the whole thing, no question. God bless Blu-Ray regions.

FUNi will find SOME way to fuck it all up. I know it.

[Kendamu]

So, okay, if this remake is cut down to only include every scene from the manga and nothing else... and then FUNi licenses it... and then Daimao translates it...

We may finally get that Steve Simmons manga translation we've all been wanting!

And yes, if this is released on Blu-Ray in Japan and FUNi decides to not license it, I'm importing the whole thing, no question. God bless Blu-Ray regions.

FUNi will find SOME way to fuck it all up. I know it.

What're you speculating as to how they could?

[Innagadadavida]

So, okay, if this remake is cut down to only include every scene from the manga and nothing else... and then FUNi licenses it... and then Daimao translates it...

We may finally get that Steve Simmons manga translation we've all been wanting!

And yes, if this is released on Blu-Ray in Japan and FUNi decides to not license it, I'm importing the whole thing, no question. God bless Blu-Ray regions.

FUNi will find SOME way to fuck it all up. I know it.

Yeah, there's no possible way they could learn from their mistakes and do something good.

[snaku]

Yeah, there's no possible way they could learn from their mistakes and do something good.

Honestly, they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt as far as DBZ in concerned.

[Innagadadavida]

As a company though, they've been doing a lot better than they did when they started Dragon Ball Z. A lot of animes are getting translated openings. I can't vouch for script accuracies in other animes, but I've heard that the script for the Buu saga is very accurate. The GT release, save for title cards, was praised for many things.

The point is, FUNimation knows what the fans want. And this updated Dragon Ball Z will be a hit with the fans. They can do it right because we have seen them do a lot of stuff right, more so recently.

I say we can give them the benefit of the doubt.

I admit that I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt because I want them to it right.

[MagicBox]

FUNi will find SOME way to fuck it all up. I know it.

While I now fully trust them with GT and the original series, I'm definitely not giving them the benefit of the doubt with Z. I'm scared they'll screw something up too.

But I'm confused. What part of my post that you quoted do you think FUNi's going to screw up? All I said was that Steve Simmons would be translating it, which he undoubtedly would be if FUNi licensed it. I don't get what they could mess up regarding that...

[DBHighDefinition]

FUNi will find SOME way to fuck it all up. I know it.

While I now fully trust them with GT and the original series, I'm definitely not giving them the benefit of the doubt with Z. I'm scared they'll screw something up too.

But I'm confused. What part of my post that you quoted do you think FUNi's going to screw up? All I said was that Steve Simmons would be translating it, which he undoubtedly would be if FUNi licensed it. I don't get what they could mess up regarding that...

But that's the thing... FUNimation do the unthinkable ( Well, with DBZ anyway ) and there's no way you can predict what they're going to do.

[VegettoEX]

As a company though, they've been doing a lot better than they did when they started Dragon Ball Z. A lot of animes are getting translated openings. I can't vouch for script accuracies in other animes, but I've heard that the script for the Buu saga is very accurate. The GT release, save for title cards, was praised for many things.

The point is, FUNimation knows what the fans want. And this updated Dragon Ball Z will be a hit with the fans. They can do it right because we have seen them do a lot of stuff right, more so recently.

I say we can give them the benefit of the doubt.

You'll have to forgive those of us that have been following the company for 14 years, now, and are still waiting for them to learn from those mistakes with regards to their treatment of the DB franchise.

It's one thing to have a youthful, blind hope for seeing what the company does seeing how they've done so well with other properties, but again... for those of us that have been there since their literal beginning, it's pretty fair for us to wander around with a giant grain of salt dangling in front of us.

What I find as an absolutely intriguing possible situation is that... let's assume FUNimation gets this new "refresh". Let's assume they want to treat it the same way Toei did, and bring back the entire cast to re-voice the show. We've suddenly got a potential situation where the cast that has actually become somewhat talented over the last decade can suddenly do the series justice, if FUNimation decides to stick to the script, keep all the music, etc.

If all of those things are kept, it's then brought down to a single point of either liking or disliking voices, which is a subjective thing rather than the rest of it (you can like changed scripts all you want, but there's no getting around that they're changed and potentially change the story/characters/motivations/etc.).

I'm still going to greatly dislike the English cast in that situation, but I'll at least know that when I'm talking about certain scenes and how I remember them and this person said this and blah blah blah... at least all the dub fans will be remembering the same thing (since it would parallel the original Japanese MINUS the changed voices), rather than the situation(s) we have now-a-days.

[The Tori-bot]

Even if FUNi gets ahold of this, I don't think this voice re-dubbing thing will happen, for several reasons:

1. It would require effort.

2. It would require money.

3. It would be a huge undertaking to get all of the cast to come back to re-dub it.

4. Sean Schemmel has turned to the Dark Side (a.k.a. 4Kids).

[DBHighDefinition]

Even if FUNi gets ahold of this, I don't think this voice re-dubbing thing will happen, for several reasons:

1. It would require effort.

2. It would require money.

3. It would be a huge undertaking to get all of the cast to come back to re-dub it.

4. Sean Schemmel has turned to the Dark Side (a.k.a. 4Kids).

5. It's Dragon Ball Z

[MagicBox]

1. It would require effort.

Which, ever since the mostly positive responces to the GT sets, they seem to have realized pays off.

2. It would require money.

Gotta spend it to make it, man. They got TONS of mo' from the season sets. It proves the series still gets sales. I don't think money's going to be an issue since they undoubtedly realize they'll make it all back in profit.

3. It would be a huge undertaking to get all of the cast to come back to re-dub it.

This is probably the thing I'm most worried about. Sure, if it's something simple like dubbing a song, then yeah, they'll do it. With long term projects, though, FUNi's usually lazy. They'll be incredibly tempted to be lazy if they license this, since they have a whole archive full of dubbed lines. Plus, since the original footage is being used, the mouth flaps would match up. We can only hope Toei either changes the length of the mouth flaws for their redubbing so that FUNi will be forced to re-record everything.

4. Sean Schemmel has turned to the Dark Side (a.k.a. 4Kids).

That won't be a problem, honestly. Schemmel recorded his lines for the movie 1-3 redubs in New York, and he still voices Goku in video games. Him returning won't be a problem if FUNi realized that they really have to re-record everything.

[Innagadadavida]

You'll have to forgive those of us that have been following the company for 14 years, now, and are still waiting for them to learn from those mistakes with regards to their treatment of the DB franchise.

It's one thing to have a youthful, blind hope for seeing what the company does seeing how they've done so well with other properties, but again... for those of us that have been there since their literal beginning, it's pretty fair for us to wander around with a giant grain of salt dangling in front of us.

Well I certainly haven't been following the company for 14 years. I rarely follow the company at all. Seriously, I've only watched a few of their dubs and I find their voice actors to be just fine. But I wouldn't call it a grain of salt as compared to my "youthful, blind hope." In that respect, it's more of a bitter blind pessimism.

Just for the record, I don't like the script changes.

3. It would be a huge undertaking to get all of the cast to come back to re-dub it.

This is probably the thing I'm most worried about. Sure, if it's something simple like dubbing a song, then yeah, they'll do it. With long term projects, though, FUNi's usually lazy. They'll be incredibly tempted to be lazy if they license this, since they have a whole archive full of dubbed lines. Plus, since the original footage is being used, the mouth flaps would match up. We can only hope Toei either changes the length of the mouth flaws for their redubbing so that FUNi will be forced to re-record everything.

Oh Jesus Christ no. I will become a hater if they reuse the old lines.

4. Sean Schemmel has turned to the Dark Side (a.k.a. 4Kids).

That won't be a problem, honestly. Schemmel recorded his lines for the movie 1-3 redubs in New York, and he still voices Goku in video games. Him returning won't be a problem if FUNi realized that they really have to re-record everything.

There would be $ome in$entive$ for him to come back to do a redub as as well.


Unrelated question:
Does FUNimation have some sort of license for all Dragon Ball Z releases in North America?

[DBHighDefinition]

Unrelated question:
Does FUNimation have some sort of license for all Dragon Ball Z releases in North America?

For everything anime and voice wise, yes.

[VegettoEX]

1. It would require effort.

Which, ever since the mostly positive responces to the GT sets, they seem to have realized pays off.

Define "pays off". We have no idea what the sales figures are. A bunch of anime nerds online saying they like that they dubbed the songs does not necessarily equal profit.

2. It would require money.

Gotta spend it to make it, man. They got TONS of mo' from the season sets. It proves the series still gets sales. I don't think money's going to be an issue since they undoubtedly realize they'll make it all back in profit.

True enough. Net sales were up for the publishing segment of Navarre last quarter ($28.8 million) over the previous year ($27.0 million). Unfortunately, we can't dig into the figures any deeper to figure out which exact things are driving the cash. For all we know, it's solely DBZ season one .

[MajinKing]

Maybe after they remaster Z and Dragonball they might decide to remake DragonballGT in both animation and plot.

[Kendamu]

I think it would be cool if the speculation from the podcast came true and they just offered it online subbed in English like the new special. Just go around FUNimation altogether unless they plan on putting it on DVD or Blu-Ray here.

[Big Momma]

Wrong, this will lead to a completely awesome Blu-ray release which I will happily import and play on my PS3 since America and Japan are in the same BD region.

They are? I thought Europe and Japan were in the same BD region. I mean I know they were with DVD, is it different with BD? That sucks >.>

EDIT: You were right. Also if anyone wants to know the regions then here is a picture.

Holy crap, I feel so bad for that one little green spec in South America.