The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Polyphase Avatron]

Present Zeno vs. Future Zeno.

They're equal.

But can they kill each other or would it be a stalemate?

[DanielSSJ]

But can they kill each other or would it be a stalemate?

Their battle would annihilate all forms of reality until nothing but the void remains, where they would continue to fight for all eternity.

[TheUltimateNinja]

But can they kill each other or would it be a stalemate?

Their battle would annihilate all forms of reality until nothing but the void remains, where they would continue to fight for all eternity.

Probably still turn out to be weaker than Beerus.

[Anime Kitten]

Probably still turn out to be weaker than Beerus.

So true!

Blonde Launch VS Future Mai

[TheUltimateNinja]

Probably still turn out to be weaker than Beerus.

So true!

Blonde Launch VS Future Mai

Blonde Launch should take this due to her more aggressive nature and also her ability to manifest assault weapons out of nowhere.

[DanielSSJ]

The battle to end all battles.

Omni-King vs Mr. Popo

[DBZ Macky]

And last episode stated Whis > SsjB Vegito btw, but that was obvious.

What? When?

Okay new fights!
-Tao Pai Pai (Organic) VS Oozaru Goku (Beginning Of Series)
-Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) VS Grandpa Son Gohan
-Yamcha (23rd Budokai) VS Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)
-Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) VS Goku (Piccolo Daimao Arc, Post Choshinsui)
-Chiaotzu (23rd Budokai) VS Kame-sennin (22nd Budokai)

[apex_pretador]

SSJB Vegito VS enraged Blue god ki SSJ Future Trunks with his ki sword (DBS episode 66: after absorbing the genki from that Spirit Bomb and also "two-base theory" god-ki base Goku and Vegeta)

Vegetto takes him down with 2 hits
Trunks was nothing special. All he did was split up an already unstable, weakened merged Zamasu, who was stomped by vegetto when at full power.

SSJ Blue Vegito Vs Beerus.

There is no way to tell.

Regular galactus is not strong enough to destroy the universe, let alone multiverse.

Depends what you mean by regular. He was going to destroy the multiverse when he fought Oblivion, or so I heard. He was also eating dimensions when he fought Mephisto.

Galactus fought oblivion? When?
Galan is not strong enough to destroy multiverse, or even universe. Top Abstracts (eternity, infinity, Oblivion and Death) operate on multiversal level but galactus doesn't. He has been given troubles by Thanos, Odin, Inbetweener etc.

[Roronoa-pt]

And last episode stated Whis > SsjB Vegito btw, but that was obvious.

What? When?

Okay new fights!
-Tao Pai Pai (Organic) VS Oozaru Goku (Beginning Of Series)
-Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) VS Grandpa Son Gohan
-Yamcha (23rd Budokai) VS Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)
-Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) VS Goku (Piccolo Daimao Arc, Post Choshinsui)
-Chiaotzu (23rd Budokai) VS Kame-sennin (22nd Budokai)

Tao Pai Pai gets stomped unless he knows Oozaru's weakness, which is unlikely.
Son Gohan was Roshi's best student but never reached near Roshi level. Chaozu is strong however he always relies on dodonpa and his telekenis abilities. Close but I'll give this to Chaozu.
Close match. Yamcha is probably stronger but Tenshihan has too many op techniques. However, if Yamcha is aware of Ten's techniques, he has the upper hand.
Tenshinhan wins with mid difficulty.
Kame-sennin is stronger. Chaozu was pretty much one shotted by Cyborg Tao.

[TheUltimateNinja]

And last episode stated Whis > SsjB Vegito btw, but that was obvious.

What? When?

Okay new fights!
-Tao Pai Pai (Organic) VS Oozaru Goku (Beginning Of Series)
-Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) VS Grandpa Son Gohan
-Yamcha (23rd Budokai) VS Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)
-Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) VS Goku (Piccolo Daimao Arc, Post Choshinsui)
-Chiaotzu (23rd Budokai) VS Kame-sennin (22nd Budokai)

Tao Pai Pai gets stomped unless he knows Oozaru's weakness, which is unlikely.
Son Gohan was Roshi's best student but never reached near Roshi level. Chaozu is strong however he always relies on dodonpa and his telekenis abilities. Close but I'll give this to Chaozu.
Close match. Yamcha is probably stronger but Tenshihan has too many op techniques. However, if Yamcha is aware of Ten's techniques, he has the upper hand.
Tenshinhan wins with mid difficulty.
Kame-sennin is stronger. Chaozu was pretty much one shotted by Cyborg Tao.

- Goku is just a mindless beast as an Oozaru, plus he's a lot slower than Tao so I can see Tao managing to pull off a win here. Of course, if he gets hit he's done for since by my levels Oozaru Goku is nearly twice as strong as Tao Pai Pai (200 to 110)

- Grandpa Gohan is able to put up a fight against Uranai Baba Arc Goku, granted he had the advantage of using Goku's tail, but that still places him well above Chiaotzu's level.

- Is Yamcha really that weak? He trained with Korin for 3 years so he should be at least as strong as 22nd TB Goku who was slightly above Tenshinhan.

- You didn't answer this one, but 23rd TB Tenshinhan should be able to beat Divine Water Goku, he was able to keep up with weighted 23rd TB Goku who was as fast as Divine Water Goku and also much stronger.

- I agree, Chiaotzu is a joke to Kame Sennin.

[apex_pretador]

What? When?

Okay new fights!
-Tao Pai Pai (Organic) VS Oozaru Goku (Beginning Of Series)
-Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) VS Grandpa Son Gohan
-Yamcha (23rd Budokai) VS Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)
-Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) VS Goku (Piccolo Daimao Arc, Post Choshinsui)
-Chiaotzu (23rd Budokai) VS Kame-sennin (22nd Budokai)

- Tao pai pai is strong, far , far stronger than BoZ goku. However, he is not as strong as ozaru goku. Goku has a size, range and strength edvantage. It is debatable if tao can even harm him.
Tao uses his sword and eventually his grenade and will steal a win regardless.

- Chiaotzu is inferior to Tao pai pai, and Tao pai pai is almost equal to Gohan. However, TK is a huge advantage and chiaotzu wins , again a winner being a weaker opponent.

- This is not really fair for Tenshinhan, not even close. Yamcha finger-flicks.

- Tien was winning against a vastly superior goku who did not waste his movements anywhere near his kid self. This isn't fair again.

- I believe when roshi said humans have surpassed him, he did not include Chiaotzu in. We only know that chiaotzu must be stronger than tao pai pai due to his training with Karin. There is no more indication.
I'd still back chiaotzu due to flight and TK.

[Doctor.]

Super!Tagoma vs Perfect Cell
Manga!Frost vs Perfect Cell
Super!Tagoma vs Manga!Frost

[TheUltimateNinja]

Super!Tagoma vs Perfect Cell
Manga!Frost vs Perfect Cell
Super!Tagoma vs Manga!Frost

- Cell should win with medium difficulty. Personally I have F Piccolo a bit below Cell Arc MSSJ Goku and Base Gohan slightly weaker than his Cell Arc MSSJ self, so Cell and Tagoma should be around the same level of power, but I'd say Cell is the far more skilled and versatile fighter so he takes the win.

- Frost wins with high difficulty, I have SSJ Goku being approximately 2.5-3x stronger than his Cell Arc self and Frost isn't that far below him, so he should be considerably stronger than Cell.
Numbers:
SSJ Goku: 10
Frost: 7
Cell: 5
MSSJ Goku: 3.75

- Frost jobs him without too much difficulty.

[dragon boss z]

Super!Tagoma vs Perfect Cell
Manga!Frost vs Perfect Cell
Super!Tagoma vs Manga!Frost

Perfect Cell beats Tagoma due to regen and having better ki attack feats.

Perfect Cell betas manga Frost because Piccolo actually pushed Frost in the manga and Frost even resorted to cheating. Their power is comparable (though I think Cell is stronger) but Cell has regen, more techniques, ect to help him win.

Super Tagoma beats manga Frost since he stomped Piccolo.

[dragon boss z]

And last episode stated Whis > SsjB Vegito btw, but that was obvious.

What? When?

Okay new fights!
-Tao Pai Pai (Organic) VS Oozaru Goku (Beginning Of Series)
-Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) VS Grandpa Son Gohan
-Yamcha (23rd Budokai) VS Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)
-Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) VS Goku (Piccolo Daimao Arc, Post Choshinsui)
-Chiaotzu (23rd Budokai) VS Kame-sennin (22nd Budokai)

Oozaru Goku wins. Tao was almost killed by a grenade and Grandpa Gohan is Tao level or higher and was killed by Oozaru Goku.

Chiatzu was beaten by Krillin. Grandpa Gohan was far above either of them during the 22nd budokai.

Yamcha should win though it would probably be a good fight.

Tien wins due to techniques and speed. Goku probably has more raw power, but like Tien said in the fight his speed would be Goku's downfall.

Chiatzu would get stomped by Master Roshi. Even current Chiatzu would lose to buff Roshi, lol.

[dragon boss z]

Future 18 vs final form Cooler, 100% Frieza, and King Cold

[TheUltimateNinja]

Future 18 vs final form Cooler, 100% Frieza, and King Cold

Cooler solos. Even if you ignore his stated 470 million BP, he still has to be around 250-300 million at minimum. Goku becomes a lot stronger after he recovers in that cave and displays enough power using only Kaioken to make Cooler think that that was the power Goku used to defeat Frieza, so assuming Goku used Kaioken x20, it'd be fair to say his base is around 7 million which would put his SSJ at 350 million. Cooler is able to completely tank and thrash Kaioken Goku and was also able to push SSJ Goku to his limits with that Supernova, so I'd estimate his BP to be 280 million, 2x stronger than Kkx20 Goku and with SSJ Goku having a 1.25x advantage over him.

Trunks is already capable of matching the future androids by the time he comes back from the future and at that time he was a good deal weaker than SSJ Vegeta and Goku, so he can't be all that strong. I'd say his BP around that time was 5 million or so with his SSJ being 250 million, so Future 18 would be slightly weaker at 225-240 million giving Cooler a clear advantage over her.

[dragon boss z]

Future 18 vs final form Cooler, 100% Frieza, and King Cold

Cooler solos. Even if you ignore his stated 470 million BP, he still has to be around 250-300 million at minimum. Goku becomes a lot stronger after he recovers in that cave and displays enough power using only Kaioken to make Cooler think that that was the power Goku used to defeat Frieza, so assuming Goku used Kaioken x20, it'd be fair to say his base is around 7 million which would put his SSJ at 350 million. Cooler is able to completely tank and thrash Kaioken Goku and was also able to push SSJ Goku to his limits with that Supernova, so I'd estimate his BP to be 280 million, 2x stronger than Kkx20 Goku and with SSJ Goku having a 1.25x advantage over him.

Trunks is already capable of matching the future androids by the time he comes back from the future and at that time he was a good deal weaker than SSJ Vegeta and Goku, so he can't be all that strong. I'd say his BP around that time was 5 million or so with his SSJ being 250 million, so Future 18 would be slightly weaker at 225-240 million giving Cooler a clear advantage over her.

The Cooler movie is supposed to take place before the androids show up so Goku should be considered weaker than then. Goku didn't show anything to prove he was strong as you are saying he is.

Here are my numbers

Namek saga
base Goku: 3 m
ssj Goku: 150 m
Frieza: 120 m

Mecha Frieza arives
King Cold: 100 m (said to be slightly inferior to Frieza in the Daizenshuu)
Mecha Freeza: 130 m (he said he got slighty stronger)
ssj Trunks: 160 m
Yadrat ssj Goku: 170 m

Cooler movie
base Goku: 3.5 m
ssj Goku: 175 m
Cooler: 140 m

future 18: 180
present 18: 200

The Frieza family are pretty much supposed to be inferior to ssj while the androids are portrayed as stronger than ssj. However the Frieza family is still extremely powerful and together I do think they could pull a win, but Cooler definitely shouldn't solo.

[Angelus]

Present Zamasu (not immortal) VS DBS SSJ2 Future Trunks (hypothetical Post-SSJG Ritual)

[ZombieVito]

And last episode stated Whis > SsjB Vegito btw, but that was obvious.

What? When?

Okay new fights!
-Tao Pai Pai (Organic) VS Oozaru Goku (Beginning Of Series)
-Chiaotzu (22nd Budokai) VS Grandpa Son Gohan
-Yamcha (23rd Budokai) VS Tenshinhan (22nd Budokai)
-Tenshinhan (23rd Budokai) VS Goku (Piccolo Daimao Arc, Post Choshinsui)
-Chiaotzu (23rd Budokai) VS Kame-sennin (22nd Budokai)

- Tao Pai Pai gets murdered since I highly doubt he can figure out Oozaru's weakness.
- Gohan puts a great fight but loses to Chiaotzu's psychic powers and superior ki techniques.
- Tenshinhan has a hard battle but wins in the end.
- While weaker, Tenshinhan wins thanks to his superior speed. It's not easy though.
- Roshi hasn't mastered his Full power form yet like in the RoF arc so he loses.

My fights:

- Future Dabura vs Dabura. No spit.
- SSJ3 Gotenks [No time limit] and Ultimate Gohan [Boo arc] vs Final form Freeza [RoF arc; Can't use Golden form].
- All Future Babarians vs Radditz.
- Shisami [RoF arc] vs Zarbon [Monster form].
- Future Trunks [Super form and Genki Sword] and Vegetto [Super Saiyan Blue; No time limit] vs Beerus.