The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Polyphase Avatron]

Every single character that's ever appeared in this franchise and that includes all the characters from all the different anime, the different movies and even the games vs Zeno.

Akkuman could beat him if he's not pure of heart.

[DanielSSJ]

Akkuman could beat him if he's not pure of heart.

He's so inherently childlike that I bet he would qualify as pure-hearted.

[Angelus]

Semi-Perfect Cell VS Base Goku with Kaiokenx8 (a day before BoG/DBS Beerus awakened) [No self-destruct]

Cell Games Krillin VS Babidi [No Majin mind-control spell]

Manga Buu Arc SSJ or SSJ2 Vegito VS Good/Mr. Buu (with Super Perfect Cell, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, and 10 Mystic/Ultimate Gohans absorbed) [No candybeam or any more absorbing]

[Zamasu55]

But Goku could wreck Black using only SSBlue whereas he needed Kaioken x10 for Hit.

Merged non-immortal Zamasu did fairly good against SsjB Vegito. Do you think Hit can do that?

Yep, Zamasu got jobbed by Father Son Galick Gun, then Goku's Kamehameha, and then got wrecked by Kaioken Goku. I believe Hit could easily beat all 3 of the former and therefore also Vegetto.

Hit would get wrecked by SsjB Vegito, no contest here.

[dragon boss z]

Piccolo could easily oneshot first form Frieza, his power level in this movie is definitely well over a million. Also, by the time Mecha Frieza came to Earth Piccolo was capable of matching the base Saiyans so he has to be at 2.5-3 million.

When Frieza transformed to his 3rd form he didn't one shot Piccolo, so I doubt someone slightly above second form Frieza tier would one shot 1st form Frieza unless they use their ultimate move.
Also there is no proof Piccolo was as strong as base saiyans then. Maybe as strong as base Vegeta but not Goku.

Vegeta from that arc is probably close to Namek Arc Base Goku, and Piccolo feels comfortable challenging him so he too must be at the same level.

Possibly, but those are still assumptions. Maybe it would be something like this.

Namek saga:
Piccolo: 1m
Vegeta: 2m

Mecha Frieza arrival:
Piccolo: 2m
Vegeta: 2.3m

[dragon boss z]

Semi-Perfect Cell VS Base Goku with Kaiokenx8 (a day before BoG/DBS Beerus awakened) [No self-destruct]

Cell Games Krillin VS Babidi [No Majin mind-control spell]

Manga Buu Arc SSJ or SSJ2 Vegito VS Good/Mr. Buu (with Super Perfect Cell, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, and 10 Mystic/Ultimate Gohans absorbed) [No candybeam or any more absorbing]

Semi Perfect Cell

Krillin

10 mystic Gohans absorbed? Buu stomps, lol.

[dragon boss z]

Pre-ROSAT Base Gotenks VS Full Power Perfect Cell

Perfect Cell. All base Gotenks did was get stomped by Fat Buu. Even if Gotenks was stronger (I doubt it) Gotenks only has 30 minutes and Cell has regen.

[TheUltimateNinja]

When Frieza transformed to his 3rd form he didn't one shot Piccolo, so I doubt someone slightly above second form Frieza tier would one shot 1st form Frieza unless they use their ultimate move.
Also there is no proof Piccolo was as strong as base saiyans then. Maybe as strong as base Vegeta but not Goku.

Vegeta from that arc is probably close to Namek Arc Base Goku, and Piccolo feels comfortable challenging him so he too must be at the same level.

Possibly, but those are still assumptions. Maybe it would be something like this.

Namek saga:
Piccolo: 1m
Vegeta: 2m

Mecha Frieza arrival:
Piccolo: 2m
Vegeta: 2.3m

Those numbers are too low, Frieza's power level surpassed 1 million and Piccolo was able to overpower him, so Piccolo has to be at least 1.15-1.2 million. 2 million for Vegeta is okay, though. Vegeta should be closer to Namek Goku by the time Mecha Frieza arrives, he spent a year and a half training much harder than Goku did, after all.

My numbers would be like so:
Piccolo (Namek): 1.15m
Vegeta (Namek): 2m
Piccolo (Mecha Frieza): 2.5m
Vegeta (Mecha Frieza): 2.8m

Semi-Perfect Cell VS Base Goku with Kaiokenx8 (a day before BoG/DBS Beerus awakened) [No self-destruct]

Cell Games Krillin VS Babidi [No Majin mind-control spell]

Manga Buu Arc SSJ or SSJ2 Vegito VS Good/Mr. Buu (with Super Perfect Cell, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, and 10 Mystic/Ultimate Gohans absorbed) [No candybeam or any more absorbing]

I have Semi Cell's full power at 10x Frieza and BoG Goku hadn't surpassed Frieza yet, so at best he would be 8x Frieza with Kaioken x8, Cell has a 1.25x advantage and should win with high difficulty.

Kuririn's offense is enough to destroy Babidi easily, but Babidi's protective spells can save him. This fight depends on whether or not the Kienzan can cut through Babidi's barriers. I'd give it to Kuririn.

Manga SSJ2 Vegetto should win, I have him at 1,000,000,000,000. The others added up would be:
Super Perfect Cell: 8,500,000,000
Majin Vegeta: 10,000,000,000
Fat Buu: 14,000,000,000
10x Ultimate Gohan: 800,000,000,000
Total: 832,500,000,000

The 10 Ultimate Gohans are the only real threat here, the rest are irrelevant. Vegetto wins.

[dragon boss z]

Vegeta from that arc is probably close to Namek Arc Base Goku, and Piccolo feels comfortable challenging him so he too must be at the same level.

Possibly, but those are still assumptions. Maybe it would be something like this.

Namek saga:
Piccolo: 1m
Vegeta: 2m

Mecha Frieza arrival:
Piccolo: 2m
Vegeta: 2.3m

Those numbers are too low, Frieza's power level surpassed 1 million and Piccolo was able to overpower him, so Piccolo has to be at least 1.15-1.2 million. 2 million for Vegeta is okay, though. Vegeta should be closer to Namek Goku by the time Mecha Frieza arrives, he spent a year and a half training much harder than Goku did, after all.

My numbers would be like so:
Piccolo (Namek): 1.15m
Vegeta (Namek): 2m
Piccolo (Mecha Frieza): 2.5m
Vegeta (Mecha Frieza): 2.8m

Frieza wasn't using his full power in his second form at first. After he started going all out in his second form Piccolo wasn't stronger than him. Freeza only transformed to stomp Piccolo.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Possibly, but those are still assumptions. Maybe it would be something like this.

Namek saga:
Piccolo: 1m
Vegeta: 2m

Mecha Frieza arrival:
Piccolo: 2m
Vegeta: 2.3m

Those numbers are too low, Frieza's power level surpassed 1 million and Piccolo was able to overpower him, so Piccolo has to be at least 1.15-1.2 million. 2 million for Vegeta is okay, though. Vegeta should be closer to Namek Goku by the time Mecha Frieza arrives, he spent a year and a half training much harder than Goku did, after all.

My numbers would be like so:
Piccolo (Namek): 1.15m
Vegeta (Namek): 2m
Piccolo (Mecha Frieza): 2.5m
Vegeta (Mecha Frieza): 2.8m

Frieza wasn't using his full power in his second form at first. After he started going all out in his second form Piccolo wasn't stronger than him. Freeza only transformed to stomp Piccolo.

We don't know if Frieza was stronger than Piccolo, he did overwhelm Piccolo towards the end but Piccolo had his weights on. Full Power Frieza and Piccolo w/o weights are probably on the same level.

[dragon boss z]

Those numbers are too low, Frieza's power level surpassed 1 million and Piccolo was able to overpower him, so Piccolo has to be at least 1.15-1.2 million. 2 million for Vegeta is okay, though. Vegeta should be closer to Namek Goku by the time Mecha Frieza arrives, he spent a year and a half training much harder than Goku did, after all.

My numbers would be like so:
Piccolo (Namek): 1.15m
Vegeta (Namek): 2m
Piccolo (Mecha Frieza): 2.5m
Vegeta (Mecha Frieza): 2.8m

Frieza wasn't using his full power in his second form at first. After he started going all out in his second form Piccolo wasn't stronger than him. Freeza only transformed to stomp Piccolo.

We don't know if Frieza was stronger than Piccolo, he did overwhelm Piccolo towards the end but Piccolo had his weights on. Full Power Frieza and Piccolo w/o weights are probably on the same level.

Ya that's what I'm saying. Both Frieza's second form and Piccolo were probably just over 1m. I actually don't think your Namek numbers are wrong, and your mecha Frieza saga numbers could be right too, I would just put them a little lower because of how freaked out they were at suppressed Frieza. Base Goku at 3m was enough to handle a fully suppressed final form Frieza, but all the z fighters acted like it was energy they had no chance against and then Gohan confirmed Freeza could get much stronger than what they were sensing.

[ahill1]

Vegeta base (Boo saga) vs Android #18

[TheUltimateNinja]

Frieza wasn't using his full power in his second form at first. After he started going all out in his second form Piccolo wasn't stronger than him. Freeza only transformed to stomp Piccolo.

We don't know if Frieza was stronger than Piccolo, he did overwhelm Piccolo towards the end but Piccolo had his weights on. Full Power Frieza and Piccolo w/o weights are probably on the same level.

Ya that's what I'm saying. Both Frieza's second form and Piccolo were probably just over 1m. I actually don't think your Namek numbers are wrong, and your mecha Frieza saga numbers could be right too, I would just put them a little lower because of how freaked out they were at suppressed Frieza. Base Goku at 3m was enough to handle a fully suppressed final form Frieza, but all the z fighters acted like it was energy they had no chance against and then Gohan confirmed Freeza could get much stronger than what they were sensing.

But Mecha Frieza is also a good deal stronger than Frieza, I have him at 140 million compared to Frieza's 120 million. So Frieza's 2.5% suppression (3 million) would be 3.5 million for Mecha Frieza which is enough to stomp Vegeta and Piccolo easily.

Vegeta base (Boo saga) vs Android #18

18 one-shots Vegeta with half her power, Vegeta would get wrecked by Frieza, let alone 18.

[dragon boss z]

But Mecha Frieza is also a good deal stronger than Frieza, I have him at 140 million compared to Frieza's 120 million. So Frieza's 2.5% suppression (3 million) would be 3.5 million for Mecha Frieza which is enough to stomp Vegeta and Piccolo easily.

Our numbers are actually pretty similar.
These are mine
Namek Frieza: 4m
Namek Frieza 100%: 120m
Mecha Fieza suppressed: 5m
Mecha Frieza full power: 130m

[dragon boss z]

Vegeta base (Boo saga) vs Android #18

Beerus confirmed base saiyans<Frieza so 18 should win.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Good Buu vs Majin Vegeta.

[Angelus]

DBS Post-SSJG ritual Base Goku VS Manga Buu Arc SSJ Vegito (that's 80x more powerful)

[TheUltimateNinja]

DBS Post-SSJG ritual Base Goku VS Manga Buu Arc SSJ Vegito (that's 80x more powerful)

Vegetto wrecks him, 80x Buu Arc Vegetto surpasses even current SSBlue Goku.

[DanielSSJ]

Good Buu vs Majin Vegeta.

The original Fat Boo was roughly twice as strong as the Super Saiyan 2s. When they split, Pure Evil Boo kept the majority of the strength, whereas Good Boo got the leftovers. At less than half of his original strength, Good Boo likely loses to SS2 Vegeta.

[Angelus]

Good Buu vs Majin Vegeta.

Fat Buu is an unfused SSJ3 tier. Meaning he's around 8x more powerful than Buu Arc SSJs. SSJ2 Majin Vegeta is 2x a SSJ. So even if Good Buu is only 25% of Fat Buu's power, it would put him dead equal with SSJ2 Majin Vegeta. Good Buu takes this due to regen