"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:45 am

Lujin_16 wrote: Super is the last series of Dragonball in my opinion i mean how can you create stronger characters than God's and the Omniking??? With a new series after Super?? Makes no sense so if Super ends no more Dragonball That's why i think Super will go for many years..
Who says that you need to bring stronger characters in the next series? You can get around that by making a plot that is not dependant of the character's strenght.
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Post by HeroR » Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:53 am

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There's no way than Toriyama will accept a new writer to destroy his own canon/timeline.
Toriyama-san has multiple times stated in the past how much he trusts other people with Dragon Ball and also that he has no problem with other people adding their own stuff so these comments are totally unnecessary.
Without the name of Toriyama, DBSUPER can't exist.
That is not how it works.
Agree. He may have complaints about the anime staff making Goku too heroic at times, but he still trusted them to make GT, which he seems to like to some extent. The only Dragon Ball produce he outright disowned is Dragon Ball Evolution.
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Post by Pannaliciour » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:25 am

Canon this canon that, who gives a f... its not like they are ignoring Toriyama's outline. Both have the same idea: zamasu is evil and should.be stop. Thats it. Enjoy both the products.

If Toriyama wants Trunks pull some kind of strength out of his ass without a good explanation character-design toei can do what ever they want, ergo spikey hair blue mixed with yellow auro and white eyes. Simple as that.

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Post by HECTOR4 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:14 am

Masako Nozawa in an event in Negima Culture Center. She speaks about Goku Black. Can someone translate this, please? Maybe she doesn't say anything important, but...

http://news.mynavi.jp/articles/2016/10/18/dragonball/

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Post by dblack » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:33 am

You people are ruining my announcement thread with your irrelevant canon argument. No one cares what you think is canon in the announcement thread. If you really wanna fight about it go find one of the 60 "what is canon?!?!" Threads already out there so you can continue the same boring argument that comes up every month.
Again, ANNOUNCEMENT thread. Most of us come here to discuss spoilers, but you're spoiling it for us.

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Post by Chuquita » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:38 am

It doesn't completely solve it, but I've been relying on Herms' Twitter and the 2ch thread more than here since this one's become more about canon debates.
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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:45 am

dblack wrote:You people are ruining my announcement thread with your irrelevant canon argument. No one cares what you think is canon in the announcement thread. If you really wanna fight about it go find one of the 60 "what is canon?!?!" Threads already out there so you can continue the same boring argument that comes up every month.
Again, ANNOUNCEMENT thread. Most of us come here to discuss spoilers, but you're spoiling it for us.
Well, it's not your personal thread, and this isn't really the best way to go about delivering your message, but the sentiment behind it is understandable.

Indeed, let's please keep discussions about continuity and canonicity to more appropriate areas/threads (of which there are plenty). Thank you!
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 1:31 pm

We can still have the Omni King and still have very powerful enemies. The Omni King probably rarely interferes the other universes. Marvel, DC and Image Comics have a large group of powerful gods, but the Avengers, Fantastic Four, the Justice League and several others still have to deal with powerful enemies without any gods like Living Tribunal or The Presence stepping in.
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Post by YonedgeHP » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:00 pm

I take the opportunity to clarify, that nothing has been confirmed yet. That Toriyama made corrections to the story, does not mean it's canon, Xenoverse had Toriyama involved, and we all know that is not canon.
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Post by HeroR » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:20 pm

YonedgeHP wrote:I take the opportunity to clarify, that nothing has been confirmed yet. That Toriyama made corrections to the story, does not mean it's canon, Xenoverse had Toriyama involved, and we all know that is not canon.
Xenoverse doesn't have Toriyama's involvement outside of approving the story.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:29 pm

Realllly interested in the next arc. I think (and hope) it'll do what Supernatural does after crazy season they usually pull everything back and have a more back to basics personal season. So hoping for something similar here. The next arc doesn't necessarily have to top this in size and scope.
In my opinion Planet Sadalla/U6 visit would fit the bill very well.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:43 pm

ShinTenshin wrote:There's absolutely no reason to rewrite the end of DRAGON BALL. Toriyama will never accept this arrive, for sure. Actually, Toriyama can work for 1 or 2 years the time DBSUPER end. What is filler, is filler, like Pot-au-feu arc. We can have the end of Toriyama script by the end of EPISODE 150 by example and just have the rest of filler By TOEI, like Naruto anime, that's all.

What is canon is canon, what is filler is filler, simply. There's no way than Toriyama will accept a new writer to destroy his own canon/timeline. As I said, DBHEROES is extremely popular with Kids, I can totally imagine an anime based on this story after DBSUPER.
Toriyama doesn't care about DB as much as you think. Also, canon is completely subjective, and it's only useful to set precedent for further conversation, so why make a big deal out of it?
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Post by Noah » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:51 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:Toriyama doesn't care about DB as much as you think. Also, canon is completely subjective, and it's only useful to set precedent for further conversation, so why make a big deal out of it?
Akira Toriyama wrote:I had put Dragon Ball behind me, but seeing how much that live-action film ticked me off, and how I revised that script for the anime movie4 and complained about the quality of the TV anime, I suppose somewhere along the line it’s become a series I like too much to ever leave alone.
Are you sure?


Anyway:
Akira Toriyama wrote:When the Kanzenban came out several years later, I added a bit more to the ending. I thought that somehow it just didn’t click. I wanted to make it more clear that Goku’s battles were over, and that a new generation was taking over.
Considering this, we can expect Super to not go after EoZ right? Or will Toriyama change his mind? Contradicting his own series
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:55 pm

Noah wrote:
Akira Toriyama wrote:When the kanzenban came out several years later, I added a bit more to the ending. I thought that somehow it just didn’t click. I wanted to make it more clear that Goku’s battles were over, and that a new generation was taking over.
Considering this, we can expect Super to not go after EoZ right? Or will Toriyama change his mind? Contradicting his own series
He already kind of is with the new material. It's pretty obvious from the way EoZ is written that nothing much of consequence happened to Goku & co during the 10 year gap, certainly not shit like them meeting a guy millions of times stronger than Boo (which makes Oob's very existence pointless since Kid Boo was the strongest opponent he ever fought and he wanted to experience that again), fighting a revived Freeza also millions of time stronger, fighting in one or two multiversal tournaments and fucking around through the various timelines again.
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Post by Lujin_16 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:23 pm

Dragon Ball Super confirmed for at least 72 Episodes and the new arc will be confirmed when episode 72 ends( 17-18 December Jump Festa) it makes all
sense now....Possibly that the Black Goku Arc will end at Episode 72 or maybe at episode 70 and 2 are slice of life episodes but i am 90 % sure that ths arc will
end in 69-72

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Post by Nejishiki » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:32 pm

The home release episode listings for Dragon Ball Super hardly hint one way or another when the Future Trunks arc will end. For all we know, there might be cooldown episodes.

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Post by GodKaio-Ken » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:38 pm

Personally DB has never been a show about exploring the world except very early on in the first few arcs. I like world building and all but not in DB...I want action, determination, passing of limits and so forth. That is why I worry about the series for myself personally. I can't see a villain more menacing than a merged immortal God.
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Post by Noah » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:41 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:Personally DB has never been a show about exploring the world except very early on in the first few arcs. I like world building and all but not in DB...I want action, determination, passing of limits and so forth. That is why I worry about the series for myself personally. I can't see a villain more menacing than a merged immortal God.
And who says we can't have all of that with world/universe building?
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Post by Lujin_16 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:42 pm

Nejishiki wrote:The home release episode listings for Dragon Ball Super hardly hint one way or another when the Future Trunks arc will end. For all we know, there might be cooldown episodes.

Yes...I think maybe it will end at episode 69-70 and 2-3 slice of life episodes...So it seems like the episode title's for 66-67 are fake as fuck..

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Post by Nejishiki » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:46 pm

The magazine from which episode titles are detailed aren't near their standard release window. It's unlikely anyone would have information pertaining to that right now. Always be mindful of established trends, such as V-Jump releasing on the same day every month, barring Sundays and holidays, in which case it's bumped up a day or two.

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