The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Zamasu55]

If the two base theory is a thing, would Base God Vegeta be superior to SSJ2 Vegeta?

Beyond God Vegeta would solo the Z cast with a finger.

[dragon boss z]

SSJ2 Trunks > SSJ2 Goku > present zamasu.
Trunks pushed back goku and was better when both were in this form. And goku in this form won against present zamasu

Future Zamasu > Present Zamasu
Goku states something was different and Future zamasu looked more competent against SSB goku (but not stronger)

Goku Black > SSJ2 Future Trunks > Future Zamasu
SSJ2 Trunks only traded blows with goku black once kicking black into a wall after a rage boost. (go back and watch the fight). SSJ2 Trunks also would have killed future zamasu twice through stabbing and final flash but he's immortal.

Super Trunks > Future zamasu
And black saying zamasu can take care of Trunks was because Trunks was near death after being stabbed in the back by him and was unaware he took a senzu afterwards. Plus zamasu being immortal and impervious to all known attacks from his perspective at the time, could wear anyone out with time.

this guy gets it

[In Brightest Day]

If the two base theory is a thing, would Base God Vegeta be superior to SSJ2 Vegeta?

Yes the two base theory basically just has their second base being the power of Super Saiyan God.

Wow that's convoluted.

If the two base theory is a thing, would Base God Vegeta be superior to SSJ2 Vegeta?

Beyond God Vegeta would solo the Z cast with a finger.

No shit, but Vegeta fought Cabba as a regular old Super Saiyan, right?

[pacz360]

Why are people still Trying to put f.zamasu=present zam f.zamasu was able to trade blows with ssjb goku and vegeta multiple times and before someone brings up his immortality no... Immortal does not equal invincibilty it just means you harder to kill that and by that logic garlic jr can go against anyone in the series.

[Sailor Haumea]

Why are people still Trying to put f.zamasu=present zam f.zamasu was able to trade blows with ssjb goku and vegeta multiple times and before someone brings up his immortality no... Immortal does not equal invincibilty it just means you harder to kill that and by that logic garlic jr can go against anyone in the series.

Except it's established immortally = invincibility.

Remember Garlic Jr.'s regeneration? Or Future Zamasu's?

Yes, Garlic Jr. would lose to the Z-Fighters now, but he's still unkillable. Even if you obliterated his body, it'd reform. Or he'd become formless like Zamasu did.

[pacz360]

Why are people still Trying to put f.zamasu=present zam f.zamasu was able to trade blows with ssjb goku and vegeta multiple times and before someone brings up his immortality no... Immortal does not equal invincibilty it just means you harder to kill that and by that logic garlic jr can go against anyone in the series.

Except it's established immortally = invincibility.

Remember Garlic Jr.'s regeneration? Or Future Zamasu's?

Yes, Garlic Jr. would lose to the Z-Fighters now, but he's still unkillable. Even if you obliterated his body, it'd reform. Or he'd become formless like Zamasu did.

What I mean is that people think future zam is weak despite him trading blows with ssjb tier fighters only saying he's ssj2 tier which is bullshit.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Why are people still Trying to put f.zamasu=present zam f.zamasu was able to trade blows with ssjb goku and vegeta multiple times and before someone brings up his immortality no... Immortal does not equal invincibilty it just means you harder to kill that and by that logic garlic jr can go against anyone in the series.

Except it's established immortally = invincibility.

Remember Garlic Jr.'s regeneration? Or Future Zamasu's?

Yes, Garlic Jr. would lose to the Z-Fighters now, but he's still unkillable. Even if you obliterated his body, it'd reform. Or he'd become formless like Zamasu did.

He got immortality from Earth's DBs which aren't that powerful, he'd probably get die if Goku or Vegeta obliterated his body.

[Angelus]

3rd Form Frieza VS Namek Arc Piccolo (post-Nail fusion; and additively given the full power levels of Gohan, Krillin, and Dende)
[Remember that time when Gohan and Krillin gave their power levels to Piccolo so that Piccolo can stall Final Form Frieza while Goku charges up the Spirit Bomb? Same concept, except this time, it's against 3rd Form Frieza, and of course Piccolo would be at full health]

[DanielSSJ]

3rd Form Frieza VS Namek Arc Piccolo (post-Nail fusion; and additively given the full power levels of Gohan, Krillin, and Dende)
[Remember that time when Gohan and Krillin gave their power levels to Piccolo so that Piccolo can stall Final Form Frieza while Goku charges up the Spirit Bomb? Same concept, except this time, it's against 3rd Form Frieza, and of course Piccolo would be at full health]

Adding his allies Ki to his own would put Piccolo within splitting range of 3rd Form Freeza, but I'm not convinced that he would be able to maintain that level of power for an extended period of time. Third Form Freeza probably wins.

[Angelus]

Great Ape Gohan VS Full Power 2nd Form Frieza [No tail-cutting; Gohan has full control of his form]

No tail-cutting; Gohan has full control of his form
Gohan isn't enraged though. This is just him before he was beaten up by 2nd Form Frieza and before he gets healed by Dende

[DanielSSJ]

Great Ape Gohan VS Full Power 2nd Form Frieza [No tail-cutting; Gohan has full control of his form]

Minutes before Piccolo arrives at the scene, Gohan goes Great Ape. Gohan then attacks 2nd form Frieza
Gohan is enraged at the moment he turns Great Ape though, that way that enraged boost gets carried over to his great ape form

So we're to assume that Enraged Gohan, who was already close to Second Form Freeza in power, suddenly transforms into a Great Ape and has full control of himself in the form? And that Freeza can't cut off the tail? Gohan's nearly 10x stronger than Freeza, so unless he transforms into his true form or destroys the moon, Gohan is gonna squash him like a bug.

[Angelus]

enraged Gohan wasn't close to 2nd form Frieza's power though. Even after a barrage of attacks while enraged, Frieza just said it hurt a little. Post-zenkai Gohan... no clue how powerful he is though

[DanielSSJ]

enraged Gohan wasn't close to 2nd form Frieza's power though. Even after a barrage of attacks while enraged, Frieza just said it hurt a little. Post-zenkai Gohan... no clue how powerful he is though

My numbers for Enraged Gohan and Second Form Freeza are 1 million and 1.4 million respectively.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Great Ape Gohan VS Full Power 2nd Form Frieza [No tail-cutting; Gohan has full control of his form]

No tail-cutting; Gohan has full control of his form
Gohan isn't enraged though. This is just him before he was beaten up by 2nd Form Frieza and before he gets healed by Dende

Gohan wastes Frieza, his power at this time is stated to be 150,000, so 10x that would be 1.5 million which would be considerably above Frieza. Of course, if Oozaru only boosts strength Frieza can still speedblitz Gohan.

3rd Form Frieza VS Namek Arc Piccolo (post-Nail fusion; and additively given the full power levels of Gohan, Krillin, and Dende)
[Remember that time when Gohan and Krillin gave their power levels to Piccolo so that Piccolo can stall Final Form Frieza while Goku charges up the Spirit Bomb? Same concept, except this time, it's against 3rd Form Frieza, and of course Piccolo would be at full health]

Unless Gohan can give out his rage boosted energy it doesn't make much of a difference, Piccolo lasts longer but ultimately still gets decimated.

[DanielSSJ]

Gohan wastes Frieza, his power at this time is stated to be 150,000, so 10x that would be 1.5 million which would be considerably above Frieza. Of course, if Oozaru only boosts strength Frieza can still speedblitz Gohan.

Gohan was actually 200,000.

[Nekis13]

Super Saiyan Cabba vs Post-Training Frieza (no Golden Form)?

[Angelus]

Present Zamasu (not immortal, no insulting allowed) VS Botamo, SSJ Cabba, Final Form Frost (no poison sting), Base Copy-Vegeta, RoF Final Form Frieza (not golden), DBS Tournament Piccolo and Auta Magetta (Auta can only use it's steam/heat tactics if ever SSJ Cabba, Botamo, and Piccolo gets killed first)

Super Saiyan Cabba vs Post-Training Frieza (no Golden Form)?

SSJ Cabba should take this. Vegeta and Goku trained for the tournament. Base Vegeta said that base Cabba was equal with him. Base Goku during the RoF arc was also roughly equal with resurrected Final Form Frieza. Based off that, SSJ Cabba should easily win against RoF Final Form Frieza.

[Polyphase Avatron]

Present and Future Zeno potara fusion (no time limit) with his potential unlocked by the Grand Elder and Rou Kaioshin, given immortality with the Super Dragonballs (if he doesn't have it already) as well as Saiyan and Freeza DNA, unlocking SSJG, SSJB, and Golden forms, training in the ROSAT for 78 trillion years getting 100 zenkais every day, and then eating every fruit from Trees of Might planted on every planet in every universe in 7 different timelines, vs. SSJ4 Gogeta. But the twist is it's GT fanboy version SSJ4 Gogeta.

[Zamasu55]

Present Zamasu (not immortal, no insulting allowed) VS Botamo, SSJ Cabba, Final Form Frost (no poison sting), Base Copy-Vegeta, RoF Final Form Frieza (not golden), DBS Tournament Piccolo and Auta Magetta (Auta can only use it's steam/heat tactics if ever SSJ Cabba, Botamo, and Piccolo gets killed first)

Beyond God Copy-Vegeta one-shots him.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Present Zamasu (not immortal, no insulting allowed) VS Botamo, SSJ Cabba, Final Form Frost (no poison sting), Base Copy-Vegeta, RoF Final Form Frieza (not golden), DBS Tournament Piccolo and Auta Magetta (Auta can only use it's steam/heat tactics if ever SSJ Cabba, Botamo, and Piccolo gets killed first)

Copy Vegeta and Frieza can both one-shot him.