The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiyan007 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:20 pm

SSJFutureTrunks wrote:Do you guys think Superman Prime One Million could beat Zeno?
You mean the overhyped Superman who's done nothing withbobly some vague statements surrounding him vs someone who can casually nuke a multiverse and survive without a scratch?

Going with Zeno

Also what form of Hulk is beating Hit?The strongest one iirc is World Breaker Hulk.

Hit is universal which is more than enough to 1 shot Hulk

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Post by The Monkey King » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:40 pm

Lord Frieza wrote:Hit vs The Avengers
Hit kills them all with no problem.

Perhaps Scarlet Witch at her most powerful could kill him.
SSJFutureTrunks wrote:Do you guys think Superman Prime One Million could beat Zeno?
Honestly I think Beerus could take him.

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Post by Saiyan007 » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:30 pm

SSJG based on feats & statements could take him pretty easily as well

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:44 pm

Saiyan007 wrote: Hit is universal which is more than enough to 1 shot Hulk
He's implied to be able to become infinitely strong and infinitely durable through rage. In addition, some versions of Hulk have punched through time and clashed with so much force that they "caused unimaginable destruction in infinite dimensions."

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Post by RedShift » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:28 am

Super Android 13 vs Super Vegeta

More specifically the same Vegeta who fought Cell.

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Post by Saiyan007 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:51 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote: He's implied to be able to become infinitely strong and infinitely durable through rage.
So how long is Hit supposed to wait until Hulk reaches his level?
In addition, some versions of Hulk have punched through time and clashed with so much force that they "caused unimaginable destruction in infinite dimensions."
How does punching through time even work? (Scans would be preferable)

And that last part sounds like an obvious hyperbole

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Post by DanielSSJ » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:02 am

RedShift wrote:Super Android 13 vs Super Vegeta

More specifically the same Vegeta who fought Cell.
Super 13 is at best about as strong as Semiperfect Cell tier, and even that is generous. Grade 2 Vegeta turns him into scrap metal.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:02 am

SSJFutureTrunks wrote:Do you guys think Superman Prime One Million could beat Zeno?
Probably not, but I think Cosmic Armor Superman could beat Zeno.
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Post by Angelus » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:32 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Saiyan007 wrote: Hit is universal which is more than enough to 1 shot Hulk
He's implied to be able to become infinitely strong and infinitely durable through rage. In addition, some versions of Hulk have punched through time and clashed with so much force that they "caused unimaginable destruction in infinite dimensions."
According to ScrewAttack, even though Hulk had potentially infinite rage, his healing factor was not. Taxing his healing factor will make Hulk unable to maintain his rage and hulk form. Meaning, if Hit damaged World War Hulk enough, Hulk will revert to Bruce Banner eventually. Like his battle with Sentry, with World War Hulk being so beaten down and his healing factor taxed to the limit, he couldn't keep himself angry enough to stay in hulk form.

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Post by Zamasu55 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:01 pm

RedShift wrote:Super Android 13 vs Super Vegeta

More specifically the same Vegeta who fought Cell.
Super 13 is probably one of the most overrated movie characters. He did nothing but beat up people who even Imperfect Cell and 16 could one-shot. He's probably around their level of strength.
Super Vegeta totally crushes him.

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Post by Noah » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:55 pm

New matches:

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (vs. F. Trunks) vs. Goku Black (vs. SSJ2 Goku)

- Super Saiyan Rosé Black (final improvement) vs. Hit (unseen deadly techniques/fully improved)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé 2 Black vs. Haikaishin Beerus (unseen full power)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé 3 Black vs. Whis (unseen full power)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé Merged Zamasu vs. Daishinkan
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Post by RedShift » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:52 pm

Until we get to Potential Unleashed Bluper Saiyan 3 @ Kioken x20 while under maximum Ragemode... We shouldn't really be considering the Father of the Angels.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:49 pm

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Raditz vs. Coola (4th form. No transforming for 5th form and no Oozaru for Radditz)
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Botamo vs. Fat Janemba (No transforming)
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Post by RedShift » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:27 am

Final Form Cooler vs Android 19?

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:57 am

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (vs. F. Trunks) vs. Goku Black (vs. SSJ2 Goku)

- Super Saiyan Rosé Black (final improvement) vs. Hit (unseen deadly techniques/fully improved)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé 2 Black vs. Haikaishin Beerus (unseen full power)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé 3 Black vs. Whis (unseen full power)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé Merged Zamasu vs. Daishinkan
- Goku could kill him, but he'd probably go easy on him at first which would lead to Black powering up considerably and being able to match and eventually surpass Goku.

- Hit annihilates, Black isn't that far above Goku who isn't massively stronger than he was at the Tournament, I'd estimate Black is around twice as strong as Tournament Goku at best, and Hit can easily match that.

- Beerus would one-shot effortlessly, SSRose 2 would only be 2x SSRose which would be nowhere close to Vegetto, let alone Beerus.

- Same as before, SSRose 3 Black probably can't even beat Beerus. I bet he could give Merged Zamasu a good fight, though.

- Assuming you mean 2 SSRose Blacks fused together, they still get stomped. They could beat Vegetto, but they probably still end up weaker than even Beerus.
RedShift wrote:Final Form Cooler vs Android 19?
Cooler completely annihilates him in one blow, even 4th form Cooler would win easily. Unless 19 gets lucky and manages to absorb Cooler's energy, he's completely boned.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:06 am

RedShift wrote:Final Form Cooler vs Android 19?
Coola has No. 19 beat in raw power, but unless he's familiar with the Android's energy absorption ability, that advantage will likely disappear after the first Ki blast he fires.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:43 am

DanielSSJ wrote:
RedShift wrote:Final Form Cooler vs Android 19?
Coola has No. 19 beat in raw power, but unless he's familiar with the Android's energy absorption ability, that advantage will likely disappear after the first Ki blast he fires.
Unless his first attack is a Supernova, that's unlikely. And 19 probably can't even fully absorb a Supernova. The reason 19 was able to gain the advantage over Goku so quickly was because Goku was already rapidly losing stamina, if Goku were in peak condition absorbing that Kamehameha would have done nothing to help 19.

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Post by DanielSSJ » Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:45 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:Unless his first attack is a Supernova, that's unlikely. And 19 probably can't even fully absorb a Supernova. The reason 19 was able to gain the advantage over Goku so quickly was because Goku was already rapidly losing stamina, if Goku were in peak condition absorbing that Kamehameha would have done nothing to help 19.
Yeah, but Goku was also a lot stronger than Coola by that point. Besides, whatever damage Goku dealt prior was superficial, as Dr. Gero was more worried about No. 19 losing power before he could absorb Goku's energy than he was of Goku actually damaging the Android. And why wouldn't No. 19 be able absorb Coola's Supernova? There isn't anything in the series that even implies that there's a limit to his and No. 20's energy absorption ability.

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Post by dragon boss z » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:00 pm

RedShift wrote:Final Form Cooler vs Android 19?
I think Cooler takes it. 19 wasn't that impressive, his only chance is energy absorption.

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Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:18 pm

Noah wrote:New matches:

- Super Saiyan 3 Goku (vs. F. Trunks) vs. Goku Black (vs. SSJ2 Goku)

- Super Saiyan Rosé Black (final improvement) vs. Hit (unseen deadly techniques/fully improved)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé 2 Black vs. Haikaishin Beerus (unseen full power)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé 3 Black vs. Whis (unseen full power)

- Hypothetical Super Saiyan Rosé Merged Zamasu vs. Daishinkan
1. Ssj3 Goku >>>> Black Goku >= Ssj2 Goku.

2. SsjR Black Goku is stronger than Hit according to the latest interview about power levels. And by the way, Black knows Hit pretty well as well as his Time-skip.

3. Beerus can destroy him with a finger.

4. Whis easily.

5. The High Priest is one the strongest angels in all Universes. He stomps.

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