The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[TheUltimateNinja]

There's no need to be God-tier to beat Mr.Buu, who's the weakest version of all anyway.
Final form Frost is at least Mystic Gohan level, maybe even higher.

I don't see why he has to be that strong, he was getting completely stomped by SSJ Goku who wasn't even trying. He probably isn't even Good Buu level.

Mate, you need to realize that Ssj Goku from the Champa saga is on a completely different level of power than Buu saga Ssj Goku.

So is Good Buu, judging by his performance against Kid Buu, Good Buu is probably SSJ2 tier. I estimate Tournament Arc SSJ Goku to be around 10 billion, Good Buu at 8 billion and Frost at 7.2 billion.

[dragon boss z]

Buu. I have Frost around Cell level and Buu can't be poisoned and has regen. There is really no way Frost can win unless you are one of those people who have him at god tier, lol.

Hell no! Frost is nowhere near god tier in my book..
About mystic gohan vs ft..
I am going with Gohan in this though.. ft wasn't really that strong till he became fake god

In the manga version ssj2 Trunks was equal to ssj3 Goku before he trained with Vegeta. After training I assume he will be at least around mystic Gohan level, we'll have to see.

[dragon boss z]

Buu. I have Frost around Cell level and Buu can't be poisoned and has regen. There is really no way Frost can win unless you are one of those people who have him at god tier, lol.

There's no need to be God-tier to beat Mr.Buu, who's the weakest version of all anyway.
Final form Frost is at least Mystic Gohan level, maybe even higher.

He had trouble with Piccolo. I doubt he is even super perfect Cell level.
In the manga Goku didn't absorb god ki and Frost lost to buu saga ssj tiers. And the anime's power scaling is too convoluted to get anything out of it.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Buu. I have Frost around Cell level and Buu can't be poisoned and has regen. There is really no way Frost can win unless you are one of those people who have him at god tier, lol.

There's no need to be God-tier to beat Mr.Buu, who's the weakest version of all anyway.
Final form Frost is at least Mystic Gohan level, maybe even higher.

He had trouble with Piccolo. I doubt he is even super perfect Cell level.
In the manga Goku didn't absorb god ki and Frost lost to buu saga ssj tiers. And the anime's power scaling is too convoluted to get anything out of it.

I have Frost losing nearly half his strength from getting destroyed by Goku, so that explains how Piccolo is able to keep up.

[DBZ Macky]

I have this guy arguing on an on that Goku can't defeat Vegeta right now even with the Kaioken.
Please give your best arguments on this:

Current Goku Vs Current Vegeta

Kaioken allowed, both fighters are in character.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I have this guy arguing on an on that Goku can't defeat Vegeta right now even with the Kaioken.
Please give your best arguments on this:

Current Goku Vs Current Vegeta

Kaioken allowed, both fighters are in character.

Is this a joke? Current Goku wastes Vegeta even without the Kaioken. According to Black the only reason Vegeta even became so powerful was because he was enraged, later on Goku keeps up with him just fine. Also, he later surpasses him by singlehandedly putting more power into his Kamehameha than Vegeta and Trunks combined could put into their Father Son Galick Gun. What has Vegeta done recently to put him above Current Goku, let alone Goku with the Kaioken which doubles his power? This power was enough, by the way, to heavily damage Merged Zamasu and shatter his halo in a single kick while Goku was already out of ki and had half his limbs broken, the same Merged Zamasu who overpowered Vegeta easily.

[Ki Breaker]

I have this guy arguing on an on that Goku can't defeat Vegeta right now even with the Kaioken.
Please give your best arguments on this:

Current Goku Vs Current Vegeta

Kaioken allowed, both fighters are in character.

Take a deep breath, accept there are lunatic people in the world, move on..

Seriously, what else can you do, if he is saying this he is either clearly a troll or ( I don't say this about people often ) an extremely stupid person..

Or if you have to say something no matter what, counter with being a lunatic yourself, say Goku's Kamehameha alone pushed back zamasu and Vegeta barely did it with his son working together.. be sure to write barely in bold for maximum effect

It's clear they are at nearly equal term's right now.. you can even just state this and move on

[Polyphase Avatron]

Hit (no timeskip) vs. Golden Freeza (no stamina limit)

[TheUltimateNinja]

Hit (no timeskip) vs. Golden Freeza (no stamina limit)

Hit obliterates him in one blow, he's capable of trading blows with SSBlue Kaioken x10 Goku who is worlds above Frieza.

[apex_pretador]

Full Power 2nd Form Frieza (Namek Arc) VS Great Ape Gohan (Pre-Dende healing)
[No tail-cutting or blowing up of planets. Frieza can transform into his initial 3rd Form once he's at the brink of death from the fight]

Great Ape Vegeta (Post-Dende healing) VS 23% Final Form Frieza (Namek Arc)
[No tail-cutting or blowing up of planets]

Captain Ginyu (No change-body) VS Piccolo (Namek Arc, newly resurrected; pre-Nail fusion and no weighted-clothing on)

Unarmored Jiece (immediately after Goku beat him and Burter up) VS Krillin (seconds before giving a portion of his power level to Piccolo, when Piccolo wanted to stall Frieza while Goku was charging up the Spirit Bomb)

Freeza wins but it is a close fight. I'm assuming that gohan can't tap further into rage.

23% ? Nevermind freeza wins.

Piccolo was unbelievable for Nail, who himself was 42,000. Piccolo was even suppressed at that point. I bet piccolo should be able to take the captain.

Krillin easily. You can make this full power jeece and this is going to be closer.

Blue Oozaru Vegetto Kaioken x20 vs Beerus.

Beerus

Unless someone actually surpasses beerus, I'm not giving SSB10 gogetto KK x100 a win over beerus.

Is Majin Vegeta stronger than Second Coming Broli since he was able to knock out Goten and Trunks with effortless blows while the two of them took some hits from Broli and kept standing?

Good point. I always thought they were close. Now, I believe vegeta is a good deal stronger. Brloy only beat up a weakened pre-tournament training SS2 gohan (who was having issues against goten when in equal forms)

Kid Trunks SSJ (25th Budokai) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

Piccolo from cell games would put up a hell of a fight against trunks, who is stronger than a cell junior, who was stronger than CG vegeta/trunks a bit. However, the power gap is wide enough for trunks to win this despite the skill.

Some "out of town" work for Hit, he's contacted and hired by someone from another dimension. His mission, Kill the Avengers. After studying some basic files on his targets, Hit plans out the hits as such...

Hit VS Black Widow, Black Panther, Hawkeye and Falcon

Hit VS Captain America, Luke Cage and Spider-Woman

Hit VS Hank Pym and Wasp

Hit VS Scarlet Witch and Vision

Hit vs Ironman

Hit VS Captain Marvel (Carol Danver)

Hit VS Thor

Bonus Hit VS The Hulk

Hit kills them all.
He wouldn't even have trouble against anyone except hulk and Thor, both of whom are exponentially slower and much weaker.

Do you guys think Superman Prime One Million could beat Zeno?

SMPOM won't stand a chance against Beerus, let alone Zeno.

Super Android 13 vs Super Vegeta

More specifically the same Vegeta who fought Cell.

Vegeta punches his head off. Honestly, Super 13 vs android 16 is closer match.

Tenshinhan vs Pui Pui
#18 vs Yakon
Chaozu & Yamcha vs Babidi

Tenshinhan wins. Pui pui was unimpressive.

#18. Yakon is well below final form freeza.

Babidi wins. He manipulates the evil in chiaozu's heart and turns this into 2v1.

[DSB]

[spoiler]

Full Power 2nd Form Frieza (Namek Arc) VS Great Ape Gohan (Pre-Dende healing)
[No tail-cutting or blowing up of planets. Frieza can transform into his initial 3rd Form once he's at the brink of death from the fight]

Great Ape Vegeta (Post-Dende healing) VS 23% Final Form Frieza (Namek Arc)
[No tail-cutting or blowing up of planets]

Captain Ginyu (No change-body) VS Piccolo (Namek Arc, newly resurrected; pre-Nail fusion and no weighted-clothing on)

Unarmored Jiece (immediately after Goku beat him and Burter up) VS Krillin (seconds before giving a portion of his power level to Piccolo, when Piccolo wanted to stall Frieza while Goku was charging up the Spirit Bomb)

Freeza wins but it is a close fight. I'm assuming that gohan can't tap further into rage.

23% ? Nevermind freeza wins.

Piccolo was unbelievable for Nail, who himself was 42,000. Piccolo was even suppressed at that point. I bet piccolo should be able to take the captain.

Krillin easily. You can make this full power jeece and this is going to be closer.

Blue Oozaru Vegetto Kaioken x20 vs Beerus.

Beerus

Unless someone actually surpasses beerus, I'm not giving SSB10 gogetto KK x100 a win over beerus.

Is Majin Vegeta stronger than Second Coming Broli since he was able to knock out Goten and Trunks with effortless blows while the two of them took some hits from Broli and kept standing?

Good point. I always thought they were close. Now, I believe vegeta is a good deal stronger. Brloy only beat up a weakened pre-tournament training SS2 gohan (who was having issues against goten when in equal forms)

Kid Trunks SSJ (25th Budokai) vs Piccolo (Cell Games)

Piccolo from cell games would put up a hell of a fight against trunks, who is stronger than a cell junior, who was stronger than CG vegeta/trunks a bit. However, the power gap is wide enough for trunks to win this despite the skill.

Some "out of town" work for Hit, he's contacted and hired by someone from another dimension. His mission, Kill the Avengers. After studying some basic files on his targets, Hit plans out the hits as such...

Hit VS Black Widow, Black Panther, Hawkeye and Falcon

Hit VS Captain America, Luke Cage and Spider-Woman

Hit VS Hank Pym and Wasp

Hit VS Scarlet Witch and Vision

Hit vs Ironman

Hit VS Captain Marvel (Carol Danver)

Hit VS Thor

Bonus Hit VS The Hulk

Hit kills them all.
He wouldn't even have trouble against anyone except hulk and Thor, both of whom are exponentially slower and much weaker.

Do you guys think Superman Prime One Million could beat Zeno?

SMPOM won't stand a chance against Beerus, let alone Zeno.

Super Android 13 vs Super Vegeta

More specifically the same Vegeta who fought Cell.

Vegeta punches his head off. Honestly, Super 13 vs android 16 is closer match.

Tenshinhan vs Pui Pui
#18 vs Yakon
Chaozu & Yamcha vs Babidi

Tenshinhan wins. Pui pui was unimpressive.

#18. Yakon is well below final form freeza.

Babidi wins. He manipulates the evil in chiaozu's heart and turns this into 2v1.[/spoiler]

Hey man . Sup ??


Ok .

Freeza Saga Base Vegito [Post SSj Base Goku and Final Zenkai Vegeta] vs Perfect Cell [Full Power] .... and then the same Vegito as SSj vs Super Perfect Cell

[TheUltimateNinja]

Hey man . Sup ??


Ok .

Freeza Saga Base Vegito [Post SSj Base Goku and Final Zenkai Vegeta] vs Perfect Cell [Full Power] .... and then the same Vegito as SSj vs Super Perfect Cell

Base Vegetto gets stomped by Perfect Cell, at best his power should be around Imperfect Cell level. SSJ Vegetto on the other hand, obliterates Super Perfect Cell effortlessly.

Also, what is up with the formatting on your post? Looks really weird.

[DSB]

Hey man . Sup ??


Ok .

Freeza Saga Base Vegito [Post SSj Base Goku and Final Zenkai Vegeta] vs Perfect Cell [Full Power] .... and then the same Vegito as SSj vs Super Perfect Cell

Base Vegetto gets stomped by Perfect Cell, at best his power should be around Imperfect Cell level. SSJ Vegetto on the other hand, obliterates Super Perfect Cell effortlessly.

Also, what is up with the formatting on your post? Looks really weird.

Thanks .
And ya i dunno what happened too . I tried to fix it , didnt work

Next

SSG Vegeta vs Beerus [Super anime fight]
Would Vegeta fare better than Goku did ?

[TheUltimateNinja]

Thanks .
And ya i dunno what happened too . I tried to fix it , didnt work

Next

SSG Vegeta vs Beerus [Super anime fight]
Would Vegeta fare better than Goku did ?

No, at that time Vegeta's base was inferior to Goku's so he would have been weaker. However, unlike Goku he would probably go all out from the start instead of holding back. Perhaps he wouldn't be able to absorb the God ki into himself like Goku did, though.

[DSB]

Thanks .
And ya i dunno what happened too . I tried to fix it , didnt work

Next

SSG Vegeta vs Beerus [Super anime fight]
Would Vegeta fare better than Goku did ?

No, at that time Vegeta's base was inferior to Goku's so he would have been weaker. However, unlike Goku he would probably go all out from the start instead of holding back. Perhaps he wouldn't be able to absorb the God ki into himself like Goku did, though.

Goku didnt intentionally Absorb the Ki . i guess Vegeta can do that too , even if he is weaker than goku


Anyway ...

Zamasu vs Kid Buu [Equal stats] . Zamasu isnt immortal .

[TheUltimateNinja]

Zamasu vs Kid Buu [Equal stats] . Zamasu isnt immortal .

Zamasu is far more skilled, but Kid Buu has insane regen and stamina and is practically immortal so he should win.

[DSB]

Zamasu vs Kid Buu [Equal stats] . Zamasu isnt immortal .

Zamasu is far more skilled, but Kid Buu has insane regen and stamina and is practically immortal so he should win.

Ok
Next
Supreme Kai vs Final Form Freeza 100% [Freeza Saga]

[TheUltimateNinja]

Ok
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Supreme Kai vs Final Form Freeza 100% [Freeza Saga]

Supreme Kai obliterates him, he's stronger than Buu Arc Piccolo who is at least as strong as a Cell Jr.

[Zamasu55]

I don't see why he has to be that strong, he was getting completely stomped by SSJ Goku who wasn't even trying. He probably isn't even Good Buu level.

Mate, you need to realize that Ssj Goku from the Champa saga is on a completely different level of power than Buu saga Ssj Goku.

So is Good Buu, judging by his performance against Kid Buu, Good Buu is probably SSJ2 tier. I estimate Tournament Arc SSJ Goku to be around 10 billion, Good Buu at 8 billion and Frost at 7.2 billion.

1. Kid Buu toyed all the time with everyone.
2. Mr. Buu lasted more than Vegeta ONLY because he could regenerate.

[TheUltimateNinja]

1. Kid Buu toyed all the time with everyone.
2. Mr. Buu lasted more than Vegeta ONLY because he could regenerate.

I have SSJ2 Vegeta above Buu as well, 10 billion, the same as Tournament Arc SSJ Goku.