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I don't know, I love my VizBigs. This entire time, I was thinking that this sounds pretty much like a repackaging of the VizBigs...didn't know it would be worse. Plus with the full colored manga release, I thought there was a tiny glimmer of hope that this would be fully colored. Ohs well, keeping my VizBigs for now.
As for the censoring, maybe they meant dialog? Although as far as I know the translation wan't that far off anyway. I have the original Japanese manga, so I theoretically do have the "uncensored" version.
God Dammit I just bought 5 Viz Bigs. I held off for so long to find out an uncensored release is happening.
Well depending on possible dialogue being uncut may decide whether I'll feel like an idiot. I could care less about the censoring of Goku's balls or Bulma. I find it stupid to censor the middle finger (but not that bad). I do hate how Mr. Satan is named Hercule, Vegetto is Vegerot, and Satan City being Herculopolis. Chi and Ki are the same, but I prefer ki. Only the future will tell if this new crappier paper release will make me feel stupid for spending too soon.
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
Spoiler:
Doctor. wrote:I've explained before, I'll just paraphrase myself.
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
So... from what I've seen, these volumes are advertised as uncut and uncensored, which they most certainly aren't...
Am I jumping the gun here or have Viz flat-out lied to us?
NessMudkip wrote:So... from what I've seen, these volumes are advertised as uncut and uncensored, which they most certainly aren't...
Am I jumping the gun here or have Viz flat-out lied to us?
Well it seems like they have lied to us, but I will continue buying the 3-in-1s to see if anything changes.
Not sure if this has been posted before, but it looks like the cover art of volume 4 of the Kanzenban will be the cover for the second 3-in-1 release.
Well, Viz. I've defended you before; looks like I won't be doing it again... I'm not even upset by the book being a lower-quality printing; I'm mostly disappointed by the book still being censored despite being advertised as "uncut & uncensored."
Nothing matters (in a cosmic sense.) Have a good time.
Can't they be sued for flat-out misleading false advertisement? I mean it's not like it was just some side comment by a representative or something, but an ACTUAL ADVERTORIAL STATEMENT slapped on ads AND the back covers of these products.
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NessMudkip wrote:
Am I jumping the gun here or have Viz flat-out lied to us?
From what I've seen... Yeah, they lied. If they had changed something besides the covers, I wouldn't say that they lied, but since they apparently didn't change anything regarding the dialog or the censorship, yeah, they lied.
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