FortuneSSJ wrote:When Beerus said the 5th would be the strongest he fought, I was rooting for a demon like Dabura/Mira. Monaca looks like one. It will be interesting to see if he tranforms.
I also asked for a female fighter, but I'm confused about that U6 Tsundere mini Gohan gender...
Kinda disappoited we have another Freeza race guy. I would accept him much better if ROF didn't happen. At least, I hope Toriyama does something interesting with him, because Freeza couldn't have been handled worse.
Goku said Freeza would make a good rival, if he wasn't so bad. I wonder if that will come full circle with that mini Gohan or Goku himself. Also it would be cool, if this guy has been training for years, unlike Freeza.
Not interested in the purple guy and Pooh. But the Robot gives me Chrono Trigger Vibes. Chrono made his debut as SSG Goku and now Robo joins the party (When will square make a remake of this?! They got a lot of hate this year at E3, by this fanbase)
Chuquita wrote:
Going to the same trope-well only works so many times. Monaca really feels like Toriyama is pushing his luck.
What luck?! Most of the things Toriyama did since he came back, got a lot of hate from the same people that have been begging for his return, all this years.
Maybe I used the wrong turn of phrase? Maybe something like "over-saturation of shock value" works better than "pushing his luck". If something is done similarly enough times and that thing is being done to surprise people then over time you lose that very element of surprise? Something like that I think I mean.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
I wonder, if the online Dragonball fandom was as it is today when Toriyama's Manga was in serialisation, how much uproar would there have been when Fat Buu first appeared?
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Chuquita wrote:Maybe I used the wrong turn of phrase? Maybe something like "over-saturation of shock value" works better than "pushing his luck". If something is done similarly enough times and that thing is being done to surprise people then over time you lose that very element of surprise? Something like that I think I mean.
And yet there are many fans who bitched about the fact that the Saiyans are running the show and want something different. Then they turn back a minute later and say they want more Super Saiyans. Many fans were actually hoping that Broly and Bardock would be a part of U6 team. The fanbase talk outside of both sides of their neck.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Bullza wrote:People are jumping the gun on this Monaca dude. If his simply is simple and ugly then it's likely intended to be that way for future use.
Cause it looks stupid i mean i understand its toriyama thing but even then it just feels lazy and too predictable
That might be the point though, he looks like a stupid looking character with puffy nipples that you can't picture as being a match for Beerus and stronger than SSJG and then next thing you know he'll transform.
I wouldn't say it's lazy or predictable either. Nobody said he'd look like an imp.
Blade wrote:I wonder, if the online Dragonball fandom was as it is today when Toriyama's Manga was in serialisation, how much uproar would there have been when Fat Buu first appeared?
There would many fans would would flat out quit watching this series. I can just imagine it now on YouTube, "This fatass pink, cape wearing blob is more powerful than the cool looking Cell!? Fuck this shit, I'm done."
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:In this tournament, killing is allowed?
No. Manga says it's the same rules of the tournament, but they're apparently ignoring the "no protective gear" rule, since Vegeta has his battle armor, and there's the obvious robot.
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It would be a funny twist If after all this years, Monaca is not that strong anymore and will end up being beaten, like the weakling he looks like to be.
A lot of people are expecting him to have a badass tranformation, but with Toriyama you never know.
I expect this tournament to go until the end (or only get interrupted in the last round) and I want to be surprised.
Besides 23rd TB (Poor Goku deserves to win one), all Toriyama's tournaments have been shitting on shonen tropes. I hope U7 loses and things go down.
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Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder if they will have Zarama be the final villain of Super. Imagine having the creator of the Dragon Balls be the final villain of the series?
I'm actually curious about this concept..
This Zarama being. They said it was a "Dragon God"..? So some type of God.. Or is it more akin to a Shenron Type Being that appears when you collect all 7 Balls and grants your wish? (But then ofcourse an upgraded one)
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FortuneSSJ wrote:When Beerus said the 5th would be the strongest he fought, I was rooting for a demon like Dabura/Mira. Monaca looks like one. It will be interesting to see if he tranforms.
I also asked for a female fighter, but I'm confused about that U6 Tsundere mini Gohan gender...
Kinda disappoited we have another Freeza race guy. I would accept him much better if ROF didn't happen. At least, I hope Toriyama does something interesting with him, because Freeza couldn't have been handled worse.
Goku said Freeza would make a good rival, if he wasn't so bad. I wonder if that will come full circle with that mini Gohan or Goku himself. Also it would be cool, if this guy has been training for years, unlike Freeza.
Not interested in the purple guy and Pooh. But the Robot gives me Chrono Trigger Vibes. Chrono made his debut as SSG Goku and now Robo joins the party (When will square make a remake of this?! They got a lot of hate this year at E3, by this fanbase)
Chuquita wrote:
Going to the same trope-well only works so many times. Monaca really feels like Toriyama is pushing his luck.
What luck?! Most of the things Toriyama did since he came back, got a lot of hate from the same people that have been begging for his return, all this years.
Maybe I used the wrong turn of phrase? Maybe something like "over-saturation of shock value" works better than "pushing his luck". If something is done similarly enough times and that thing is being done to surprise people then over time you lose that very element of surprise? Something like that I think I mean.
yeah i get ya i don't mind most of designs lately i just hope toriyama u7 new guy can show us what can he do.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder if they will have Zarama be the final villain of Super. Imagine having the creator of the Dragon Balls be the final villain of the series?
I'm actually curious about this concept..
This Zarama being. They said it was a "Dragon God"..? So some type of God.. Or is it more akin to a Shenron Type Being that appears when you collect all 7 Balls and grants your wish? (But then ofcourse an upgraded one)
He's a dragon who also happens to be a god, like Demigra who's a Demon God. Though it would be weird if he created the balls and then sealed himself inside them so he could appear to grand wishes.
"The life is the hardest video games of ever. Because you have only one life and the powers are kinda lame. And sometimes a stage takes years"
"The life is a game, the objective of the game is trying to find the objective of the game, and then, finish the game"
--by Ranely Jr
It's kind of stupid to complain about the kid saiyan. He literally only has the hair in common. His face,body, and clothes are clearly different. Not that weird for someone to share haircuts in real life either
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Hellspawn28 wrote:I wonder if they will have Zarama be the final villain of Super. Imagine having the creator of the Dragon Balls be the final villain of the series?
I'm actually curious about this concept..
This Zarama being. They said it was a "Dragon God"..? So some type of God.. Or is it more akin to a Shenron Type Being that appears when you collect all 7 Balls and grants your wish? (But then ofcourse an upgraded one)
He's a dragon who also happens to be a god, like Demigra who's a Demon God. Though it would be weird if he created the balls and then sealed himself inside them so he could appear to grand wishes.
I hope you're right about that.
But are we even really sure about it?? Right now all we have to go by is the Korean translation. Which may have some mistranslations.
I can see why people might dislike/like some designs or all designs, it's subjective. How some opinions are presented is obnoxious, relentlessly attacking the designs and in some cases the author. How is a design stupid? Is stupidity something visible? I can feel the hate oozing out of some posts. It's not nice.
I for one love the Monaca design. Every time I look at him/her/it, I can't stop thinking how he can destroy the Universe and has huge nipples... It's so silly and charming at the same time. I also like the Saiyan. The rest, don't attract me that much. Even if the Freeza look-alike looks pretty cool.
I will wait for their personalities. I think the designs are closely related to their personalities. The same way people grew to like Beerus, with it's cat mannerisms and what have you.
