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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by shadowfox87 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:14 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:What if before Merged Zamasu was born, Super Saiyan God Vegeta had made sure to have acted quickly enough to have gone straight to Super Saiyan Blue and fired off his Dirty Fireworks to have killed Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black, with the remains of the Bringer of Sorrow and Future Zamasu still having met and then given birth to the so-called Supreme God?
In the manga, after having trained in the Room of Spirit and Time, Vegeta had learned to switch back and forth between SSG and SSB. This allowed him to use the full power of SSB in short bursts without wasting stamina. If he had gone straight to SSB without using SSG, he would've run out of stamina and lost to Goku Black. If you are asking what would have happened if Future Zamasu would have fused with a dead body, then Future Zamasu's immortality would have helped regenerate Goku's body and then he would've still become Merged Zamasu without the added memories of Black.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:26 pm

shadowfox87 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:What if before Merged Zamasu was born, Super Saiyan God Vegeta had made sure to have acted quickly enough to have gone straight to Super Saiyan Blue and fired off his Dirty Fireworks to have killed Super Saiyan Rosé Goku Black, with the remains of the Bringer of Sorrow and Future Zamasu still having met and then given birth to the so-called Supreme God?
In the manga, after having trained in the Room of Spirit and Time, Vegeta had learned to switch back and forth between SSG and SSB. This allowed him to use the full power of SSB in short bursts without wasting stamina. If he had gone straight to SSB without using SSG, he would've run out of stamina and lost to Goku Black. If you are asking what would have happened if Future Zamasu would have fused with a dead body, then Future Zamasu's immortality would have helped regenerate Goku's body and then he would've still become Merged Zamasu without the added memories of Black.
I see, but why not answer my previous post? I figured you would have enjoyed going into the Dragon World.

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by shadowfox87 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:18 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote: Thirteen days before the beginning of the Twenty-Eighth World Martial Arts Tournament, you are reincarnated as one of the characters from Dragon Ball GT, as after having been killed by Beerus destroying the Earth of Dragon Ball Super, your soul was lucky enough to avoid getting erased by Hakaishin Beerus' Hakai, but since the barbarous Beerus had noticed this in one of his Prophetic Nightmares following him returning to his slumber, you would have until the end of the following Tournament for the God of Destruction to arrive.
1) Out of all the Dragon Ball GT characters, who would you choose to reincarnate as?
Goku

2) Out of all the Dragon Ball characters outside of the Dragon Ball Super series, who would you choose to be the one character you would settle down with?
Probably Videl

3) How would you choose to be prepared for both the 28th World Tournament and then with the likes of Hakaishin Beerus coming for your ass personally?
I'd ask for Elder Kai to unlock my full potential.

4) Out of all the places in the original timeline, where would you have decided to live in the Dragon World?
Mt. Paozu. It's quiet there and peaceful, but I would fly to West City often to watch a movie or do something.

5) With your choice of being employed or not, how would you have liked to make a living since day one?
I would work for Capsule Corporation either as a scientist or engineer.

6) On the sixth day since you had been reborn, the Zamasu of Dragon Ball GT had used the Super Dragon Balls to become Goku Black, a perfect clone of the real Goku, and had destroyed the Super Dragon Balls before going after Goku and his family. What could you have done if this incarnation of Goku Black was already as strong as the Half-Corrupted Form of Merged Zamasu? But couldn't instantly grow stronger?
I would've gathered the Earth Dragon Balls and wished for Goku's soul to return to its original body and Zamasu's soul to go into a frog like Ginyu.

7) Just hours before the final battle with Beerus, God Broly had interrupted the first match of the 28th Tournament, to gain his revenge against Goku, but God Broly is confronted by you and someone else. Both you and the character of your choosing would have to use the Fusion Dance to beat God Broly. However, how would you finish off this Legendary Super Saiyan God, if he is far more powerful than Merged Zamasu? The same one Vegito Blue fought in Dragon Ball Super?
I would've asked Majin Buu to turn Broly into a cookie. I being Goku, would fuse with Vegeta to become Vegito and use my Final Kamehameha to blast the cookie. Given that Broly is not too smart, he would've easily been caught by Buu's magic. Alternatively, I could have asked Akuuman from Uranai Baba's fighters to blow Broly's heart.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:56 pm

shadowfox87 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: Thirteen days before the beginning of the Twenty-Eighth World Martial Arts Tournament, you are reincarnated as one of the characters from Dragon Ball GT, as after having been killed by Beerus destroying the Earth of Dragon Ball Super, your soul was lucky enough to avoid getting erased by Hakaishin Beerus' Hakai, but since the barbarous Beerus had noticed this in one of his Prophetic Nightmares following him returning to his slumber, you would have until the end of the following Tournament for the God of Destruction to arrive.
1) Out of all the Dragon Ball GT characters, who would you choose to reincarnate as?
Goku

2) Out of all the Dragon Ball characters outside of the Dragon Ball Super series, who would you choose to be the one character you would settle down with?
Probably Videl

3) How would you choose to be prepared for both the 28th World Tournament and then with the likes of Hakaishin Beerus coming for your ass personally?
I'd ask for Elder Kai to unlock my full potential.

4) Out of all the places in the original timeline, where would you have decided to live in the Dragon World?
Mt. Paozu. It's quiet there and peaceful, but I would fly to West City often to watch a movie or do something.

5) With your choice of being employed or not, how would you have liked to make a living since day one?
I would work for Capsule Corporation either as a scientist or engineer.

6) On the sixth day since you had been reborn, the Zamasu of Dragon Ball GT had used the Super Dragon Balls to become Goku Black, a perfect clone of the real Goku, and had destroyed the Super Dragon Balls before going after Goku and his family. What could you have done if this incarnation of Goku Black was already as strong as the Half-Corrupted Form of Merged Zamasu? But couldn't instantly grow stronger?
I would've gathered the Earth Dragon Balls and wished for Goku's soul to return to its original body and Zamasu's soul to go into a frog like Ginyu.

7) Just hours before the final battle with Beerus, God Broly had interrupted the first match of the 28th Tournament, to gain his revenge against Goku, but God Broly is confronted by you and someone else. Both you and the character of your choosing would have to use the Fusion Dance to beat God Broly. However, how would you finish off this Legendary Super Saiyan God, if he is far more powerful than Merged Zamasu? The same one Vegito Blue fought in Dragon Ball Super?
I would've asked Majin Buu to turn Broly into a cookie. I being Goku, would fuse with Vegeta to become Vegito and use my Final Kamehameha to blast the cookie. Given that Broly is not too smart, he would've easily been caught by Buu's magic. Alternatively, I could have asked Akuuman from Uranai Baba's fighters to blow Broly's heart.
What if Present Cell (or at least a part of him) had survived his destruction, how powerful would he have become through a Zenkai? And if he had been able to fully-regenerate from the remnants of his former body about the same time as when Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan had caused Perfect Cell to devolve?

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by shadowfox87 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 5:04 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:What if Present Cell (or at least a part of him) had survived his destruction, how powerful would he have become through a Zenkai? And if he had been able to fully-regenerate from the remnants of his former body about the same time as when Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan had caused Perfect Cell to devolve?
Not too much powerful. The zenkais reach a saturation point. Goku and Vegeta have reached their zenkai limits and they stated this in the manga. He would be more powerful than SSJ2 Teen Gohan.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:45 pm

shadowfox87 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:What if Present Cell (or at least a part of him) had survived his destruction, how powerful would he have become through a Zenkai? And if he had been able to fully-regenerate from the remnants of his former body about the same time as when Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan had caused Perfect Cell to devolve?
Not too much powerful. The zenkais reach a saturation point. Goku and Vegeta have reached their zenkai limits and they stated this in the manga. He would be more powerful than SSJ2 Teen Gohan.
I have two What-Ifs taking place in the same scenario.

1) What if Vegeta had been the one to achieve Super Saiyan and defeat Frieza, then take over the Planet Trade Organization, and while having a final battle against Goku with both of them going all-out as Super Saiyans approximately six months after Garlic Junior had been defeated, one of the Saiyan Prince's stray energy blasts hits and almost completely destroys both Dr. Gero's Lab and the hidden bunker beneath housing Cell? Would any of the Androids be freed and feel compelled to go to the site of the battle between Goku and Vegeta?

2) What if following the Maximum Flasher of Super Saiyan Vegeta destroying Dr. Gero and his secret laboratory, a part of Cell only having the DNA of 1% of Piccolo, 98.6% of the Saiyan half of Gohan, and 0.4% of Frieza survives and regenerates similar to how Cell did when he was reduced to only a single cell?

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by shadowfox87 » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:03 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:I have two What-Ifs taking place in the same scenario.

1) What if Vegeta had been the one to achieve Super Saiyan and defeat Frieza, then take over the Planet Trade Organization, and while having a final battle against Goku with both of them going all-out as Super Saiyans approximately six months after Garlic Junior had been defeated, one of the Saiyan Prince's stray energy blasts hits and almost completely destroys both Dr. Gero's Lab and the hidden bunker beneath housing Cell? Would any of the Androids be freed and feel compelled to go to the site of the battle between Goku and Vegeta?

2) What if following the Maximum Flasher of Super Saiyan Vegeta destroying Dr. Gero and his secret laboratory, a part of Cell only having the DNA of 1% of Piccolo, 98.6% of the Saiyan half of Gohan, and 0.4% of Frieza survives and regenerates similar to how Cell did when he was reduced to only a single cell?
1) If Vegeta defeated Freeza, he would have become even more prideful and arrogant. He may have tried to live on Earth but enforcing his authority to the point where he may have tried to become its ruler. If a stray blast later destroyed Dr. Gero's primary lab and the basement one, it would have permanently deactivated the Androids such that they would not have ever woke up. However, given that Dr. Gero also has yet another basement lab, Android 21 a few years later is activated. Android 21 would wake up a few years later and absorb both Goku and Vegeta, who are too weak to fight her.

2) Cell would regenerate into his first form - Imperfect Cell. With Android 17 and 18 destroyed from Dr. Gero's lab, he would not be able to turn Perfect. He would arrive to the scene where he would defeat both Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta. However, Piccolo would choose to merge with Kami and have enough power to destroy Imperfect Cell.
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Tai Lung » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:21 am

What if Caulifla is Protagonist of Dragon Ball? How much would the Arcs change?
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Jul 25, 2018 12:20 pm

shadowfox87 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:I have two What-Ifs taking place in the same scenario.

1) What if Vegeta had been the one to achieve Super Saiyan and defeat Frieza, then take over the Planet Trade Organization, and while having a final battle against Goku with both of them going all-out as Super Saiyans approximately six months after Garlic Junior had been defeated, one of the Saiyan Prince's stray energy blasts hits and almost completely destroys both Dr. Gero's Lab and the hidden bunker beneath housing Cell? Would any of the Androids be freed and feel compelled to go to the site of the battle between Goku and Vegeta?

2) What if following the Maximum Flasher of Super Saiyan Vegeta destroying Dr. Gero and his secret laboratory, a part of Cell only having the DNA of 1% of Piccolo, 98.6% of the Saiyan half of Gohan, and 0.4% of Frieza survives and regenerates similar to how Cell did when he was reduced to only a single cell?
1) If Vegeta defeated Freeza, he would have become even more prideful and arrogant. He may have tried to live on Earth but enforcing his authority to the point where he may have tried to become its ruler. If a stray blast later destroyed Dr. Gero's primary lab and the basement one, it would have permanently deactivated the Androids such that they would not have ever woke up. However, given that Dr. Gero also has yet another basement lab, Android 21 a few years later is activated. Android 21 would wake up a few years later and absorb both Goku and Vegeta, who are too weak to fight her.

2) Cell would regenerate into his first form - Imperfect Cell. With Android 17 and 18 destroyed from Dr. Gero's lab, he would not be able to turn Perfect. He would arrive to the scene where he would defeat both Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta. However, Piccolo would choose to merge with Kami and have enough power to destroy Imperfect Cell.
1) What if in his first visit to the Future Earth in the Anime, Goku Black had a change of heart and betrayed Future Zamasu before teaming up with Full Power Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks against the other completely and utterly furious Zamasu from the very same timeline as Future Trunks from DBS?

2) What if during Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, Prince Vegeta had challenged God of Destruction Beerus to a... Dance-Off?

3) What if Super Perfect Cell had permanently gotten complete and total amnesia upon having regenerated himself from his intended Self-Destruction and stayed in the Otherworld just long enough to have met up with Mr. Goku and company?

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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:40 am

What if Zamasu took over Rumsshi's body instead of Goku's?
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Post by GT_Goten10 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:47 am

What If Oozaru Baby Vegeta fought against Goku golden Oozaru
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Post by Alruneia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:07 am

GT_Goten10 wrote:What If Oozaru Baby Vegeta fought against Goku golden Oozaru
I assume Baby would win. The fight wouldn't be pretty, though, mostly due to Oozaru Goku going berserk (as an Oozaru does), so there'd be a lot of collateral damage. New Planet Plant and Earth could easily get destroyed, killing off pretty much everyone and forcing a trip to Namek if anyone survives (could Baby survive in space, considering that Vegeta can't? Perhaps this would force Baby out of Vegeta's body). Beyond that I don't know if there's much to say.
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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:10 am

Now answer my question, Alruneia.
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Post by Alruneia » Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:13 am

Merged Zamasu would look super weird, I guess? I have no good answer for you, sorry.
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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:56 am

What if Tenshinhan trained with Whis after Resurrection F?
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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:25 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:
shadowfox87 wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:I have two What-Ifs taking place in the same scenario.

1) What if Vegeta had been the one to achieve Super Saiyan and defeat Frieza, then take over the Planet Trade Organization, and while having a final battle against Goku with both of them going all-out as Super Saiyans approximately six months after Garlic Junior had been defeated, one of the Saiyan Prince's stray energy blasts hits and almost completely destroys both Dr. Gero's Lab and the hidden bunker beneath housing Cell? Would any of the Androids be freed and feel compelled to go to the site of the battle between Goku and Vegeta?

2) What if following the Maximum Flasher of Super Saiyan Vegeta destroying Dr. Gero and his secret laboratory, a part of Cell only having the DNA of 1% of Piccolo, 98.6% of the Saiyan half of Gohan, and 0.4% of Frieza survives and regenerates similar to how Cell did when he was reduced to only a single cell?
1) If Vegeta defeated Freeza, he would have become even more prideful and arrogant. He may have tried to live on Earth but enforcing his authority to the point where he may have tried to become its ruler. If a stray blast later destroyed Dr. Gero's primary lab and the basement one, it would have permanently deactivated the Androids such that they would not have ever woke up. However, given that Dr. Gero also has yet another basement lab, Android 21 a few years later is activated. Android 21 would wake up a few years later and absorb both Goku and Vegeta, who are too weak to fight her.

2) Cell would regenerate into his first form - Imperfect Cell. With Android 17 and 18 destroyed from Dr. Gero's lab, he would not be able to turn Perfect. He would arrive to the scene where he would defeat both Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta. However, Piccolo would choose to merge with Kami and have enough power to destroy Imperfect Cell.
1) What if in his first visit to the Future Earth in the Anime, Goku Black had a change of heart and betrayed Future Zamasu before teaming up with Full Power Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks against the other completely and utterly furious Zamasu from the very same timeline as Future Trunks from DBS?

2) What if during Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, Prince Vegeta had challenged God of Destruction Beerus to a... Dance-Off?

3) What if Super Perfect Cell had permanently gotten complete and total amnesia upon having regenerated himself from his intended Self-Destruction and stayed in the Otherworld just long enough to have met up with Mr. Goku and company?
What if the version of Goku from Goku Black’s Timeline had learned how to do Captain Ginyu’s Body Change after the events of the Captain Ginyu Saga?

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Re: The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

Post by shadowfox87 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:33 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) What if in his first visit to the Future Earth in the Anime, Goku Black had a change of heart and betrayed Future Zamasu before teaming up with Full Power Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks against the other completely and utterly furious Zamasu from the very same timeline as Future Trunks from DBS?

2) What if during Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods, Prince Vegeta had challenged God of Destruction Beerus to a... Dance-Off?

3) What if Super Perfect Cell had permanently gotten complete and total amnesia upon having regenerated himself from his intended Self-Destruction and stayed in the Otherworld just long enough to have met up with Mr. Goku and company?
4) What if the version of Goku from Goku Black’s Timeline had learned how to do Captain Ginyu’s Body Change after the events of the Captain Ginyu Saga?
1) Black is stronger than Future Zamasu. In fact, without the presence of Goku, there was no U6 tournament and Future Zamasu would have not been influenced by GodTube to carry out the Zero Mortals Plan. Black is what caused Future Zamasu to be convinced. If Black betrayed Future Zamasu and joined with Future Trunks, they would defeat Future Zamasu easily as he is immortal, but weaker.

2) Beerus would have won the dance-off as he was shown during the Bulma's birthday party to be doing breakdancing. Beerus is much more flexible than Vegeta is.

3) If Super Perfect Cell had total amnesia, then Goku would've made friends with him and asked him to become his sparring buddy.

4) If Goku knew how to do Ginyu's Body Change technique, he would have used it immediately on Black, recovering his body and then defeating Zamasu, preventing Goten and Chi-Chi from dying.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:38 am

What if Xeno Goku was the 10th fighter for U7 and after Vegeta falls from the ring he immediately uses the potara with super Goku. Does Merged Goku defeat Jiren?

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:35 am

What if a fused fighter like Anilaza or Kefla had won the Tournament of Power? Who would get the wish then?
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:47 pm

What if Vegeta told Nappa go to Earth alone?
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