"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[GodVegetto91]

Well i'd much rather prefer the "bad air" argument as a reason for their defusion, than any old boring and stupid "time limit" because of their SSJ Blue forms or whatever.

[dragonballhero]

I'm going with the idea that Vegetto will win the fight, but without a method of sealing or removing the immortality, he can't keep Zamasu down, so Ye Olde Lord of Everything will have to come and resolve the issue.

Maybe the next arc issues will stem from that: He helps stop Zamasu, but the multiverse is in danger of being punished for the crimes of unwarranted Time Travel.

You know, if they execute it the right way, I honestly won't even complain. Heck, I was never bothered by the Omni-King being added in the end of this arc, but I kind of hope we get some sort of set of consequences that kind of extend into the next story arc, ala Saiyan arc to Frieza arc.

[Sandubadear]

I wonder if Vegetto will speak the NEP? Did that happen in Z or Kai?

[alakazam^]

It's laughable when people defending Super like to make lame comparisons with Z, just to make it less appealing as it was, you can't say anything about the show that people usually come with the same posts:

You just described the 'x' Arc

Trunks rage boosts and new form as just as dumb as Goku becoming SSJ2 and 3 off-screen

First of all, I wasn't defending anything so maybe what's so laughable is that you are so biased against Super that you got all triggered by a mere sentence? I'd think that's sad, not funny, though. Everything you said is present in the Boo arc except the rage boosts, which Gohan couldn't pull off properly so, maybe, take off your nostalgia goggles and don't make excuses?

[nite_jay]

Well i'd much rather prefer the "bad air" argument as a reason for their defusion, than any old boring and stupid "time limit" because of their SSJ Blue forms or whatever.

The bad air one makes less sense than them not being able to handle that much power, though. Honestly, if Super were to have used bad air without Z using it before people would flip the frick out even more.

[HeroR]

Vegetto seemingly being so quick almost makes it seem like a Toei thing...until I realised just how much they're trying to sell him already. So even if it's a Toei thing, it's a Toei thing that they care immensely about. Which begs the question as to why they wouldn't drag it out...? God, I don't even know.

Not a fan of the Zeno button being THE deciding factor that saves everyone, if it is. Let's put it this way: if Zeno shows up and destroys Zamasu with no consequences, that'll mean every single arc of Dragon Ball Super has ended in an anticlimax where everyone is saved by the whims of the gods. It is actually getting repetitive. If we're following Goku and Vegeta around, we need to actually start seeing them succeed in this new god-filled world on their own and not just have the gods solve all their problems for them.

The tournament wasn't won on the whim on the gods. It's the opposite. Both Goku and Hit forfeited their matches to tell the gods to go screw themselves after Champa called them pawns.

[ArchedThunder]

Vegetto seemingly being so quick almost makes it seem like a Toei thing...until I realised just how much they're trying to sell him already. So even if it's a Toei thing, it's a Toei thing that they care immensely about. Which begs the question as to why they wouldn't drag it out...? God, I don't even know.

Probably because they know they don't have the animators to do an epic, long fight.

[MagmonKai]

Vegetto seemingly being so quick almost makes it seem like a Toei thing...until I realised just how much they're trying to sell him already. So even if it's a Toei thing, it's a Toei thing that they care immensely about. Which begs the question as to why they wouldn't drag it out...? God, I don't even know.

Probably because they know they don't have the animators to do an epic, long fight.

I know... it almost cheapens his appearance within the show. I'd much rather them find a different way to make Zamasu "disappear" than to taunt us with a SSB Vegetto only to have him defuse so quickly. The way I see it, we'll probably only see him on screen for about 5 mins. Japanese cartoons are so short (about 24 mins of story minus opening, ending, and commercials). You know they are going to drag out the individual fight until at least the middle of the episode. I digress, I still can't wait to see him tomorrow. Episode 66 is going to be awesome no matter what. I have thoroughly enjoyed this arc of Super thus far. I'm sadden that it's about to end, but then excited to see what's in store for us next!

[Sodhi]

I agree with ArchedThunder. I dont think that the production can handle any more episodes with non stop/intense action in this arc.

[Noah]

First of all, I wasn't defending anything so maybe what's so laughable is that you are so biased against Super that you got all triggered by a mere sentence? I'd think that's sad, not funny, though. Everything you said is present in the Boo arc except the rage boosts, which Gohan couldn't pull off properly so, maybe, take off your nostalgia goggles and don't make excuses?

I think you're the one biased here, cause I made comparisons that you avoided to quote just to prove your point and yet I said:

If even by that you think Super is just as "bad" as Z back then, well just a matter of opinions then

as you comparing Zeno's Button with the Genki Dama (dumb plot device) and Super Saiyan 3 with Trunks new form (an inexplicable new form) are really non sense for me, but that's your opinion anyway

[TheMikado]

It's laughable when people defending Super like to make lame comparisons with Z, just to make it less appealing as it was, you can't say anything about the show that people usually come with the same posts:

You just described the 'x' Arc

Trunks rage boosts and new form as just as dumb as Goku becoming SSJ2 and 3 off-screen

First of all, I wasn't defending anything so maybe what's so laughable is that you are so biased against Super that you got all triggered by a mere sentence? I'd think that's sad, not funny, though. Everything you said is present in the Boo arc except the rage boosts, which Gohan couldn't pull off properly so, maybe, take off your nostalgia goggles and don't make excuses?

Why would you want an encore/rehash of the bad parts of Z? I would think these things would be the worse the second time around.

[alakazam^]

I think you're the one biased here, cause I made comparisons that you avoided to quote just to prove your point

Biased for what? I just said you were describing the Boo arc and somehow you thought I was defending Super so you took it upon yourself to be obnoxious about it and that is why I didn't include your comparisons because I lost all interest in addressing them.

Why would you want an encore/rehash of the bad parts of Z? I would think these things would be the worse the second time around.

I never said they were bad but that's not a very good argument since everyone gives a free pass to most of Dragon Ball's flaws anyway and, for some reason, Super can't have that, which is hypocritical.

[sintzu]

So Vegetto isn't going to get the final battle ? I don't want to jump to conclusions cause I don't fully know what's going on but if this is going to be like what happened in GT with Gogeta or RF with Vegeta where they try something new then switch right back to Goku before seeing it through then this will be the most disappointing arc in the entire franchise.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

So Vegetto isn't going to get the final battle ? I don't want to jump to conclusions cause I don't fully know what's going on but if this is going to be like what happened in GT with Gogeta or RF with Vegeta where they try something new then switch right back to Goku before seeing it through then this will be the most disappointing arc in the entire franchise.

The spoilers refer to Goku separately from Vegeta. Unless it's a typo, Vegetto seems to be a "one-episode wonder", so to speak.

[Nekis13]

So Vegetto isn't going to get the final battle ? I don't want to jump to conclusions cause I don't fully know what's going on but if this is going to be like what happened in GT with Gogeta or RF with Vegeta where they try something new then switch right back to Goku before seeing it through then this will be the most disappointing arc in the entire franchise.

Technically Vegetto does get the final battle, since it's implied Zeno only comes once Zamasu's body is completely destroyed.

or at least that's what I got out of it

[sintzu]

Technically Vegetto does get the final battle, since it's implied Zeno only comes once Zamasu's body is completely destroyed.

That's a relief, I thought Vegetto's fight wouldn't have an impact on anything like Gogeta's in GT but it seems like he kind of wins.

Does it say why Zeno is there ?

[Nekis13]

Does it say why Zeno is there ?

All we know is that once Zamasu loses his physical body, Goku finds something in his pocket (if it isn't the Zeno button I don't know what it could be.)

[Xeztin]

Does it say why Zeno is there ?

All we know is that once Zamasu loses his physical body, Goku finds something in his pocket (if it isn't the Zeno button I don't know what it could be.)

Vegito is probably going to destroy Zamasu's physical body and the light or the pressure of "God Ki" a line that was dropped more than once, is going to have some sort of inner reaction with Vegito's God Ki and cause them to defuse. This is my guess, I noticed that Zamasu's God Ki has so much pressure line was dropped multiple times. Then Zeno will appear via the button.

[Cetra]

Honestly if the Zenou thing is going to be interesting for me, I am in for it.

[Araki]

Vegetto seemingly being so quick almost makes it seem like a Toei thing...until I realised just how much they're trying to sell him already. So even if it's a Toei thing, it's a Toei thing that they care immensely about. Which begs the question as to why they wouldn't drag it out...? God, I don't even know.

Probably because they know they don't have the animators to do an epic, long fight.

Vegetto vs Buu, in the manga, was a short and fast paced fight that the anime managed to drag out for like four episodes, to the point of almost ruining it, as it was too one-sided for such a length. I was actually afraid they would do it again and running Vegeta into the ground. I take one well done episode over that any day.