"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun May 31, 2015 8:11 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:When will the manga start again?
August.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun May 31, 2015 8:12 pm

Marco Polo wrote:If they wait until the end of Kai to give us anything then this pretty much confirms that Super takes place after Uub.
Not really, they might not even show EoZ in Kai.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:When will the manga start again?
August.
It will be called the "August" issue, but it will be released before the show starts.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sun May 31, 2015 8:16 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:If they wait until the end of Kai to give us anything then this pretty much confirms that Super takes place after Uub.
Not really, they might not even show EoZ in Kai.
Except they've already shown it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aYokTknbgA

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun May 31, 2015 8:18 pm

I don't think Kai's ending is dependant on Super's beginning and vise versa. I see them as two different products, imo.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun May 31, 2015 8:21 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:If they wait until the end of Kai to give us anything then this pretty much confirms that Super takes place after Uub.
Not really, they might not even show EoZ in Kai.
Except they've already shown it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aYokTknbgA
Goku has a rape face at 0:55.

Poor Uub.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Marco Polo » Sun May 31, 2015 8:21 pm

Chuquita wrote:I don't think Kai's ending is dependant on Super's beginning and vise versa. I see them as two different products, imo.
Then they don't need to wait until the end of Kai to give us "anything of note" about Super. I was reacting to DBZ_Lee's comment:
DBZ_Lee wrote:I doubt very much we'll get anything of note until after the final episode of Kai.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun May 31, 2015 8:23 pm

Oh, ok. I misunderstood.

Re: creepy Gokû face

It's because they're pulling from the creepy face he makes on volume 42's ToC page.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun May 31, 2015 8:27 pm

While surfing the web, I came across this:

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I know this is not legit, but hypothetically speaking, if that was the logo for the show, how would you feel?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun May 31, 2015 8:31 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:While surfing the web, I came across this:

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I know this is not legit, but hypothetically speaking, if that was the logo for the show, how would you feel?
I like how the "Super" looks, but the color scheme doesn't mesh with "Dragon Ball."
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sun May 31, 2015 8:37 pm

Kai's whole point of existence is to be closer to the Manga, it won't have any bearing on Super, as to when it takes place on the timeline.
They have to show EoZ, as it is from the Manga, otherwise, it would completely undermine the whole reason behind its existence.

When I said I doubt they'll show any actual footage until after Kai, I meant as in they won't want to. They'll want people to tune in for the final episode in anticipation of seeing Super footage for the first time.

It'd be nice for something in WSJ this week, but I doubt it.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by ssjjanemba » Sun May 31, 2015 8:52 pm

The logo looks pretty boring, but i would't mind it.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sun May 31, 2015 8:54 pm

DBZ_Lee wrote:Kai's whole point of existence is to be closer to the Manga, it won't have any bearing on Super, as to when it takes place on the timeline.
They have to show EoZ, as it is from the Manga, otherwise, it would completely undermine the whole reason behind its existence.
Didn't Kai keep those scenes with Frieza in hell?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZ_Lee » Sun May 31, 2015 9:04 pm

fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:Kai's whole point of existence is to be closer to the Manga, it won't have any bearing on Super, as to when it takes place on the timeline.
They have to show EoZ, as it is from the Manga, otherwise, it would completely undermine the whole reason behind its existence.
Didn't Kai keep those scenes with Freeza in hell?
It did. But the dialogue is closer to the manga. The Buu Arc has retained more filler than the previous ones, but it is still better than Z at being more faithful to the source material.

Anyhow, Super and Kai are completely different properties, with totally different purpose.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun May 31, 2015 9:06 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Marco Polo wrote:If they wait until the end of Kai to give us anything then this pretty much confirms that Super takes place after Uub.
Not really, they might not even show EoZ in Kai.
Except they've already shown it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aYokTknbgA
They also showed scenes from the original Dragon Ball, and that's not going to be in Kai.
fadeddreams5 wrote:
DBZ_Lee wrote:Kai's whole point of existence is to be closer to the Manga, it won't have any bearing on Super, as to when it takes place on the timeline.
They have to show EoZ, as it is from the Manga, otherwise, it would completely undermine the whole reason behind its existence.
Didn't Kai keep those scenes with Freeza in hell?
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun May 31, 2015 9:08 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:They also showed scenes from the original Dragon Ball, and that's not going to be in Kai.
The DB scenes acted as flashbacks.

And why would you think that they will skip the 28th TB? It's in DBZ, and in the manga, there is no reason to skip it.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun May 31, 2015 9:09 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:When will the manga start again?
August.
It will be called the "August" issue, but it will be released before the show starts.
Exactly. Most magazines are dated ahead of their release. The Super manga starts in the August issue of V-jump, but the chapter will be released this month. So in 21 days (disregarding leaks), we'll have content from the series. And around 14 days after that, the anime is likely to start (if there isn't a break).
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun May 31, 2015 9:12 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:They also showed scenes from the original Dragon Ball, and that's not going to be in Kai.
The DB scenes acted as flashbacks.

And why would you think that they will skip the 28th TB? It's in DBZ, and in the manga, there is no reason to skip it.
They could skip it if Super picks up just after the defeat of Buu. Super could start off after the defeat of Buu, bridge the gap between Buu and BoG, recap BoG, bridge the gap between BoG and RoF, recap RoF, and then continue on. There's a lot we missed between BoG and RoF, like the battle where Vegeta becomes a SSG for the first time.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun May 31, 2015 9:26 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:They could skip it if Super picks up just after the defeat of Buu. Super could start off after the defeat of Buu, bridge the gap between Buu and BoG, recap BoG, bridge the gap between BoG and RoF, recap RoF, and then continue on. There's a lot we missed between BoG and RoF, like the battle where Vegeta becomes a SSG for the first time.
I really doubt that's gonna happen. The final ending in Kai foreshadows the 28th TB, so we'll definitely see it.

As for where Super takes place, my bet is after the 28th TB. It's after Boo, the new villain will be stronger than Boo & Freeza (obviously implying Golden Freeza), and it will begin after the end of Kai. Plus, we know that the last 10 years were peaceful, so a full series in that gap taking place won't make sense (yeah, JSAT, BoG, and FnF still happened, but their events weren't as big as the Daimao, Saiyan, Freeza, Cell, and Boo arcs, they only lasted for an afternoon & the danger wasn't as big).
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by UpFromTheSkies » Sun May 31, 2015 9:35 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:They could skip it if Super picks up just after the defeat of Buu. Super could start off after the defeat of Buu, bridge the gap between Buu and BoG, recap BoG, bridge the gap between BoG and RoF, recap RoF, and then continue on. There's a lot we missed between BoG and RoF, like the battle where Vegeta becomes a SSG for the first time.
I really doubt that's gonna happen. The final ending in Kai foreshadows the 28th TB, so we'll definitely see it.

As for where Super takes place, my bet is after the 28th TB. It's after Boo, the new villain will be stronger than Boo & Freeza (obviously implying Golden Freeza), and it will begin after the end of Kai.
You could be right, and they did say a villain would appear that's stronger than Buu and Freeza, however they didn't say when they would appear.
Plus, we know that the last 10 years were peaceful, so a full series in that gap taking place won't make sense (yeah, JSAT, BoG, and FnF still happened, but their events weren't as big as the Daimao, Saiyan, Freeza, Cell, and Boo arcs,
IIRC, the actual battles with Daimao, Vegeta, Freeza, and Cell didn't last very long, maybe a day or so, and the entire Buu arc took place in just two days.
they only lasted for an afternoon & the danger wasn't as big).
Beerus almost destroyed the Earth, and Freeza did destroy it, which is only the second time that's happened.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun May 31, 2015 9:37 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
UpFromTheSkies wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: August.
It will be called the "August" issue, but it will be released before the show starts.
Exactly. Most magazines are dated ahead of their release. The Super manga starts in the August issue of V-jump, but the chapter will be released this month. So in 21 days (disregarding leaks), we'll have content from the series. And around 14 days after that, the anime is likely to start (if there isn't a break).
Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification.

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