"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Nekis13]

The official time of the Future Trunks Saga is 780.

Where was that confirmed?

From the two DBZ movies we got the ages 778 (Battle of Gods) and 779 (Fukkatsu no F). But Super starts with 'some time has passed'.
So they didn't mention how many time passed between the defeat of Buu and the appearance of Beerus. It could be less than a year instead of 4.
And Tarble doesn't exist in Super, in Z he does. For me you have to differ the Super arcs and DBZ movies in 'two different timelines'.

I think that video makes it more clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6Q9f1Ym2s

I expect exact ages as soon as Super ends. Because they want to stay within this 10 year gap and probably for a longer time.

I only see one problem: The age of Pan, she would be born way earlier than she should.

Doesn't Super start like 6 months after they wish for everyone's memories to be erased after the Buu fight?

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The official time of the Future Trunks Saga is 780. That is true in all material. The only timeskip the anime has is that the Champa Saga happened at least eight months after Resurrection 'F' since the Earth's Dragon Balls are activated. There was no time ever given from the time of the Champa Saga and the Futurre Saga. At best, it was a couple of weeks, not months.

This. The manga is not stuck to anything. There was a gap of months between BoG and RoF, then another four months. An unspecified jump until the tournament, them both the anime and manga taking place in the same age for the current arc.

FnF takes place in Age 779. In the beginning of the U6 arc, Whis speaks about the Golden Freeza fight as if it is a recent event. Likewise in the beginning of the Future Trunks arc, everyone talks as if the tournament is a recent event. So in the manga continuity, the FnF, U6 , and Future Trunks arcs seem to take place back-to-back.

Anything else is just futile attempt to pretend the manga is more valid or whatever.

...What?

[HeroR]

Where was that confirmed?

From the two DBZ movies we got the ages 778 (Battle of Gods) and 779 (Fukkatsu no F). But Super starts with 'some time has passed'.
So they didn't mention how many time passed between the defeat of Buu and the appearance of Beerus. It could be less than a year instead of 4.
And Tarble doesn't exist in Super, in Z he does. For me you have to differ the Super arcs and DBZ movies in 'two different timelines'.

I think that video makes it more clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6Q9f1Ym2s

I expect exact ages as soon as Super ends. Because they want to stay within this 10 year gap and probably for a longer time.

I only see one problem: The age of Pan, she would be born way earlier than she should.

Doesn't Super start like 6 months after they wish for everyone's memories to be erased after the Buu fight?

Super does not take place six months after the Buu Saga. All it says was that everyone memories of Buu were erased six months after the battle, and then some time passed, with the date left vague.

Since Pan's age was never retcon, the BOG Saga takes place the same years as the movie. The same with Resurrection 'F' Saga. Also, the timeline that shows how Black was created have the events of the Future Trunks Saga dated as 780.

FnF takes place in Age 779. In the beginning of the U6 arc, Whis speaks about the Golden Freeza fight as if it is a recent event. Likewise in the beginning of the Future Trunks arc, everyone talks as if the tournament is a recent event. So in the manga continuity, the FnF, U6 , and Future Trunks arcs seem to take place back-to-back.

Speaking about it being a recent event doesn't give a time period. For example, the anime said nothing about how much time past and we only have the eight months number based purely on the Dragon Balls being activated. And people talking about the tournament being recent also means crap since the anime doesn't the exact same thing. So you're assuming that the manga takes place in 779 based on vague statements, when all official material clearly says the Future Trunks Saga happened in 780.

In fact, since the manga skipped the entirety of Resurrection 'F', it literally could have happened in winter and it was only a week until New Year. That is literally how vague the Super manga is.

[SilverPlaqueVII]

Where was that confirmed?

From the two DBZ movies we got the ages 778 (Battle of Gods) and 779 (Fukkatsu no F). But Super starts with 'some time has passed'.
So they didn't mention how many time passed between the defeat of Buu and the appearance of Beerus. It could be less than a year instead of 4.
And Tarble doesn't exist in Super, in Z he does. For me you have to differ the Super arcs and DBZ movies in 'two different timelines'.

I think that video makes it more clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6Q9f1Ym2s

I expect exact ages as soon as Super ends. Because they want to stay within this 10 year gap and probably for a longer time.

I only see one problem: The age of Pan, she would be born way earlier than she should.

Doesn't Super start like 6 months after they wish for everyone's memories to be erased after the Buu fight?

Super does not take place six months after the Buu Saga. All it says was that everyone memories of Buu were erased six months after the battle, and then some time passed, with the date left vague.

Since Pan's age was never retcon, the BOG Saga takes place the same years as the movie. The same with Resurrection 'F' Saga. Also, the timeline that shows how Black was created have the events of the Future Trunks Saga dated as 780.

On the subject of this issue, Bra was born in 780 according to the DBGT Perfect Files and in 778 per all original Daizenshuu guidebooks. Mirai Trunks defeated Cell as far as Age 788 five years after Mirai #17 and #18 were obliterated when Mirai Bulma was alive. I think the events could go in age 797 as far as time travel is concerned.

Mirai Yajirobe who was shown being beaten by #17 and #18, seemed to survived the encounter and hidden before Zamasu showed up.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Also, the timeline that shows how Black was created have the events of the Future Trunks Saga dated as 780.

That's for the anime, not for the manga.

[HeroR]

Also, the timeline that shows how Black was created have the events of the Future Trunks Saga dated as 780.

That's for the anime, not for the manga.

Even if we ignore that, even the guides for Super have the date at 780. All sources says the Future Trunks Saga take place in 780. You're only speculating that the manga is 779.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Also, the timeline that shows how Black was created have the events of the Future Trunks Saga dated as 780.

That's for the anime, not for the manga.

Even if we ignore that, even the guides for Super have the date at 780. All sources says the Future Trunks Saga take place in 780. You're only speculating that the manga is 779.

While I am speculating (and why wouldn't I, not only it's implied but it's also more consistent that way), all the sources that place the Future Trunks arc in Age 780 are about the anime. as far as I know.

[HeroR]

While I am speculating (and why wouldn't I, not only it's implied but it's also more consistent that way), all the sources that place the Future Trunks arc in Age 780 are about the anime. as far as I know.

Until proven otherwise, the anime and the manga takes place the same year. Because 780 is the only official number given. Just like how Super's version of BOG and Resurrection 'F' takes place the same years as the movies despite no time period ever being giving.

[SilverPlaqueVII]

While I am speculating (and why wouldn't I, not only it's implied but it's also more consistent that way), all the sources that place the Future Trunks arc in Age 780 are about the anime. as far as I know.

Until proven otherwise, the anime and the manga takes place the same year. Because 780 is the only official number given. Just like how Super's version of BOG and Resurrection 'F' takes place the same years as the movies despite no time period ever being giving.

But the problem is I pointed out is Mirai Cell was killed by Trunks in Age 788 so your opinion its partially rendered moot.

More specifically, the series follows the timelines given by the original Daizenshuu guidebooks from 1995.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

While I am speculating (and why wouldn't I, not only it's implied but it's also more consistent that way), all the sources that place the Future Trunks arc in Age 780 are about the anime. as far as I know.

Until proven otherwise, the anime and the manga takes place the same year. Because 780 is the only official number given. Just like how Super's version of BOG and Resurrection 'F' takes place the same years as the movies despite no time period ever being giving.

Again, the sources that place it in Age 780 are referring to the anime. That doesn't mean that the manga takes place in the same year as well. I mean, the same source says that Goku fought Zamasu, which didn't happen in the manga.

[Omori]

Even if we ignore that, even the guides for Super have the date at 780. All sources says the Future Trunks Saga take place in 780. You're only speculating that the manga is 779.

Do you have a source or link for that? Which guide?

I've never seen any official Super timeline with the ages - likely because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.

[HeroR]

But the problem is I pointed out is Mirai Cell was killed by Trunks in Age 788 so your opinion its partially rendered moot.

More specifically, the series follows the timelines given by the original Daizenshuu guidebooks from 1995.

You're basing this off of old guides when new ones have been created to place dates for BOG and Resurrection 'F'. No one argues what year those take place in despite a date never being given in neither the movie or Super.

Even if we ignore that, even the guides for Super have the date at 780. All sources says the Future Trunks Saga take place in 780. You're only speculating that the manga is 779.

Do you have a source or link for that? Which guide?

I've never seen any official Super timeline with the ages - likely because of the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Off the top of my head, Toei released an official timeline showing how Black was created. There is a thread about it here.

[Omori]

Off the top of my head, Toei released an official timeline showing how Black was created. There is a thread about it here.

You mean this one: http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/special/07.html

There isn't any age mentioned, just that Trunks' timeline is 17 years in the future. Nothing about 780.

[HeroR]

Off the top of my head, Toei released an official timeline showing how Black was created. There is a thread about it here.

You mean this one: http://www.toei-anim.co.jp/tv/dragon_s/special/07.html

There isn't any age mentioned, just that Trunks' timeline is 17 years in the future. Nothing about 780.

There was a guide that had the year, but I can't place it off the top of my head and I'm on my phone. So I will search for it later.

[Omori]

There was a guide that had the year, but I can't place it off the top of my head and I'm on my phone. So I will search for it later.

I see, thanks in advance.
Would be really interesting to see.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

This is the only recent timeline with years that I can remember. And it was still made before Super started airing, contradicts their own timeline info about Resurrection "F" included in Volume "F", and hasn't been updated since it was posted.

[Dbzfan94]

The official time of the Future Trunks Saga is 780.

Where was that confirmed?

From the two DBZ movies we got the ages 778 (Battle of Gods) and 779 (Fukkatsu no F). But Super starts with 'some time has passed'.
So they didn't mention how many time passed between the defeat of Buu and the appearance of Beerus. It could be less than a year instead of 4.
And Tarble doesn't exist in Super, in Z he does. For me you have to differ the Super arcs and DBZ movies in 'two different timelines'.

I think that video makes it more clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6Q9f1Ym2s

I expect exact ages as soon as Super ends. Because they want to stay within this 10 year gap and probably for a longer time.

I only see one problem: The age of Pan, she would be born way earlier than she should.

Pan is fine. We're about seven years after Buu. Considering how Pan is very active, can walk and can say words like Mama and Papa, I'd say she's around 1. Maybe a little bit older. Another 3 years would put her at 4, just like at EOZ

[SilverPlaqueVII]

The official time of the Future Trunks Saga is 780.

Where was that confirmed?

From the two DBZ movies we got the ages 778 (Battle of Gods) and 779 (Fukkatsu no F). But Super starts with 'some time has passed'.
So they didn't mention how many time passed between the defeat of Buu and the appearance of Beerus. It could be less than a year instead of 4.
And Tarble doesn't exist in Super, in Z he does. For me you have to differ the Super arcs and DBZ movies in 'two different timelines'.

I think that video makes it more clear: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l6Q9f1Ym2s

I expect exact ages as soon as Super ends. Because they want to stay within this 10 year gap and probably for a longer time.

I only see one problem: The age of Pan, she would be born way earlier than she should.

Pan is fine. We're about seven years after Buu. Considering how Pan is very active, can walk and can say words like Mama and Papa, I'd say she's around 1. Maybe a little bit older. Another 3 years would put her at 4, just like at EOZ

Can we say the new guides that retconned Mirai Cell's death by Trunks? Bra was also born in 778 (Daizenshuu) or 780 (DBGT Perfect Files) but Pan, it stays unchanged at 779.

AFAIK, Pan is 9 years old at the start of DBGT and 10 years old during Super 17 arc (She is also 14 and 15 if you count FUNimation dub).

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Can we say the new guides that retconned Mirai Cell's death by Trunks? Bra was also born in 778 (Daizenshuu) or 780 (DBGT Perfect Files) but Pan, it stays unchanged at 779.

The Daizenshu lists her as both. Her birth year is listed on her bio as AGE 778, but the timeline uses AGE 780.

[Noah]

So how much time we have left for Bra to be born and Goku to disappear for 5 years?