I understand fully what a strawman argument is. And I haven't actually had a straw man argument, I simply pointed out that Coola referring to Freeza in his first form makes no sense in anyway imaginable. As they were both far greater in strength than that form. You haven't debunked Coola's statement of Goku being as strong as Freeza in his base form.dragon boss z wrote:
It seems you don't know what a strawman argument is. A straw man argument is when you change your opponents argument so it is easier to beat. And I don't mean to insult you but it gets annoying when you clearly aren't reading my comment correctly and reply the same thing twice even though I already debunked it.
It makes no sense as both Coola and Goku are literal leagues above first form Freeza. And Coola was stronger than First form Freeza, but still weaker than finial form Freeza. And from the context of the narrative it is most likely that he's referring to Freeza in his finial form as he specified that Freeza always had an edge on him. Hell Coola is even aware of the fact that Goku is a saiyan. You know the race that relishes the chance of a challenging battle? Meaning it makes even more sense for him too be referring to Freeza at his best.dragon boss z wrote: And I don't, don't know why him referring to Frieza's first form doesn't make sense, since both Goku and Cooler are above first form Frieza, it doesn't matter how much stronger they are. All he said was "I see how you could beat Frieza". And what that means is Goku's power is enough to where it makes sense he won. And it would make sense for someone to beat Frieza before he transforms. It doesn't meant he is only a little stronger. If Cooler said that Goku's power was enough to just barely win, then you would be right.
But here's the thing Revenge of Coola is a non canon movie, that bares absolutely no impact to the main canonical series as a whole. In the context of the movie Goku is as strong as finial form Freeza. But in the actual series? No way.dragon boss z wrote: Here is a good example that disproves your argument. In dragon ball Super Beerus said Frieza is the best opponent ssj Goku could beat. That doesn't mean BoG saga ssj Goku is still only at a power level of 150 million. All it means is he is stronger than Frieza.
What I'm arguing here is that in the context of a non canon movie is that Goku's base is as strong as Freeza's strongest augmentation form.
