The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:47 am

Zamasu55 wrote:
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Zamasu55 wrote: Basil is Perfect Cell tier, nothing more.
Ssj2 Majin Vegeta is on a completely different level of power.
Why Basil is Perfect Cell tier? Goku called him pretty good while in the Boo Arc Cell was considered not that strong(For Goku at least)
You're talking like being on the same tier as Perfect Cell is something to be ashamed of.
Anyway, I already explained why I think Basil is Perfect Cell tier in the other thread.
Never said something like that. But when you compare Cell to SSJ3 Goku and Boo his not that much. And in what thread you provided your explanation?
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ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:49 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Kicker Basil (powered-up form) vs..

Gryll
Tagoma (Super)

Hatchiyack
Dabra
Movie 10 LSSj Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Ginyu Tagoma
Aka
Fat Janemba (No transforming)
Hirudegarn
Watagash-Barry's powered up form
Magetta
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Monster Watagash
ROF 4th form Freeza
Frost 4th form
Golden Freeza

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Basil fights one at a time
No scaling (All characters are that their normal size)
The fights are in no real order
No outside of help

Who does he beat and who can defeat him?
He wins against the bolded ones.
I'm a little bit doubtful about Watagash tough, I want to see Gohan's fight first.
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Never said something like that. But when you compare Cell to SSJ3 Goku and Boo his not that much. And in what thread you provided your explanation?
Power levels thread.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Doctor. » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:32 am

Zamasu55 wrote:
Doctor. wrote:Kicker Basil (powered-up form) vs Majin Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2)

It begins.
Basil is Perfect Cell tier, nothing more.
Ssj2 Majin Vegeta is on a completely different level of power.
He wouldn't tank a Kamehameha from a serious Boo or be faster than him if he were only perfect Cell tier. Mr. Boo is much weaker than Fat Boo, but let's not pretend he's weaker than any SS2 we know.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The gr » Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:40 am

Zamasu55 wrote:
RehBeh wrote:
Zamasu55 wrote: Basil is Perfect Cell tier, nothing more.
Ssj2 Majin Vegeta is on a completely different level of power.
Why Basil is Perfect Cell tier? Goku called him pretty good while in the Boo Arc Cell was considered not that strong(For Goku at least)
You're talking like being on the same tier as Perfect Cell is something to be ashamed of.
Anyway, I already explained why I think Basil is Perfect Cell tier in the other thread.
Wow your downplaying basil,he is not perfect cell tier in his base or when he full powered,if he was that tier he wouldn't stand chance against Buu like dabura did during his fight with Buu,I would put his base form SPC tier and his full powered at Majin Vegeta ssj2 tier,like Doctor said, mr Boo is much weaker than Fat Boo, but let's not pretend he's weaker than any SS2 we know.
    it goes like this Mr buu≥full powered basil=Majin Vegeta≥base basil≥ Super perfect cell≥ssj2 teen Gohan
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    Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

    Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:13 pm

    RehBeh wrote:
    dragonball0900 wrote: Cell Games Trunks
    Cell Games Vegeta
    Cell Games Goku
    Cell Games Gohan

    At what point does the Supreme Kai stop?
    I'm possible the only one that things he wins them.
    Are you sure you think that Gohan would be beaten? A weaker SSJ1 Gohan from the Buu Saga was stated to be stronger than Supreme Kai. If Supreme Kai don't use his special abilities, then I think he would lose to Cell Games Gohan.

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    Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

    Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:27 pm

    Doctor. wrote:
    Zamasu55 wrote:
    Doctor. wrote:Kicker Basil (powered-up form) vs Majin Vegeta (Super Saiyan 2)

    It begins.
    Basil is Perfect Cell tier, nothing more.
    Ssj2 Majin Vegeta is on a completely different level of power.
    He wouldn't tank a Kamehameha from a serious Boo or be faster than him if he were only perfect Cell tier. Mr. Boo is much weaker than Fat Boo, but let's not pretend he's weaker than any SS2 we know.
    It didn't seem like Vegeta was afraid of him when he was inside Super Buu.
    And we have Piccolo's words, that let us know that most of the power had gone straight to Evil Buu.

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    Post by Doctor. » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:30 pm

    Zamasu55 wrote:It didn't seem like Vegeta was afraid of him when he was inside Super Buu.
    Duh, Goku was there. He also didn't seem scared of Evil Boo, who would also be much stronger than him.

    Mr. Boo had a much better performance against Kid Boo than SS2 Vegeta did, who just got beat around like a ragdoll, whilst Mr. Boo actually got some good hits in.
    Zamasu55 wrote:And we have Piccolo's words, that let us know that most of the power had gone straight to Evil Buu.
    This doesn't mean anything considering Fat Boo was around SS3 Goku's tier of strength, even if weaker, and even a 60%-40% split would leave Mr. Boo much stronger than any SS2 from the Boo arc.

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    Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

    Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:34 pm

    dragonball0900 wrote: Are you sure you think that Gohan would be beaten? A weaker SSJ1 Gohan from the Buu Saga was stated to be stronger than Supreme Kai. If Supreme Kai don't use his special abilities, then I think he would lose to Cell Games Gohan.
    Was that stated? I knew the SSJ2's are stronger, not sure about the first one. As you said Shin abillities are a factor in a fight.
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    ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
    He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
    And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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    Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

    Post by dragonball0900 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:02 pm

    RehBeh wrote:
    dragonball0900 wrote: Are you sure you think that Gohan would be beaten? A weaker SSJ1 Gohan from the Buu Saga was stated to be stronger than Supreme Kai. If Supreme Kai don't use his special abilities, then I think he would lose to Cell Games Gohan.
    Was that stated? I knew the SSJ2's are stronger, not sure about the first one. As you said Shin abillities are a factor in a fight.
    Gohan as a SSJ1 could take out the Z sword from the rock, yet Supreme Kai couldn't do it. Supreme Kai was also amazed at their powers too. Supreme Kai's abilities are the ones that are able to make a bit of a victory over the SSJ1s, but talking about physical strenght, Supreme Kai is weaker than SSJ1s.

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    Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:36 pm

    dragonball0900 wrote:
    RehBeh wrote:
    dragonball0900 wrote: Are you sure you think that Gohan would be beaten? A weaker SSJ1 Gohan from the Buu Saga was stated to be stronger than Supreme Kai. If Supreme Kai don't use his special abilities, then I think he would lose to Cell Games Gohan.
    Was that stated? I knew the SSJ2's are stronger, not sure about the first one. As you said Shin abillities are a factor in a fight.
    Gohan as a SSJ1 could take out the Z sword from the rock, yet Supreme Kai couldn't do it. Supreme Kai was also amazed at their powers too. Supreme Kai's abilities are the ones that are able to make a bit of a victory over the SSJ1s, but talking about physical strenght, Supreme Kai is weaker than SSJ1s.
    This also shows Piccolo is much weaker than SSJs since SSJ Goku >> SSJ Vegeta > SSJ Gohan >> Kaioshin >>> Piccolo.

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    Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

    Post by dragon boss z » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:42 pm

    The gr wrote: Wow your downplaying basil,he is not perfect cell tier in his base or when he full powered,if he was that tier he wouldn't stand chance against Buu like dabura did during his fight with Buu,I would put his base form SPC tier and his full powered at Majin Vegeta ssj2 tier,like Doctor said, mr Boo is much weaker than Fat Boo, but let's not pretend he's weaker than any SS2 we know.
      it goes like this Mr buu≥full powered basil=Majin Vegeta≥base basil≥ Super perfect cell≥ssj2 teen Gohan
      ssj2 teen Gohan should be stronger than super perfect Cell. And imo base basil is weaker than both of them by a good deal. Fat Buu was beating hi easier than evil Fat Buu was beating ssj2 majin Vegeta. evil Fat Buu is much stronger than good Fat Buu. He is actually over twice as strong.

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      Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

      Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:47 pm

      dragon boss z wrote:
      The gr wrote: Wow your downplaying basil,he is not perfect cell tier in his base or when he full powered,if he was that tier he wouldn't stand chance against Buu like dabura did during his fight with Buu,I would put his base form SPC tier and his full powered at Majin Vegeta ssj2 tier,like Doctor said, mr Boo is much weaker than Fat Boo, but let's not pretend he's weaker than any SS2 we know.
        it goes like this Mr buu≥full powered basil=Majin Vegeta≥base basil≥ Super perfect cell≥ssj2 teen Gohan
        ssj2 teen Gohan should be stronger than super perfect Cell. And imo base basil is weaker than both of them by a good deal. Fat Buu was beating hi easier than evil Fat Buu was beating ssj2 majin Vegeta. evil Fat Buu is much stronger than good Fat Buu. He is actually over twice as strong.
        Teen Gohan is definitely weaker than Cell, even Kid Gohan was barely stronger than him, there's no way Teen Gohan who's totally out of practice could beat Cell.

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        Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

        Post by LowRyder2005 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:29 pm

        I agree with Basil being around Perfect Cell tier. If you compare the (Fat) Buu vs. Dabra and (Good) Buu vs. Basil fights it appears clear to me that Basil would have jobbed as hard as Dabra did against Fat Buu. I think he's probably really sturdy and more powerful with the drug on, but in both cases his attack are always way too weak to bother Mr. Buu, who is at most around 40% or 45% of his former power.

        My take is:
        Gryll
        Tagoma (Super)

        Hatchiyack
        Dabra
        Movie 10 LSSj Broli
        Super Perfect Cell
        Ginyu Tagoma
        Aka

        Fat Janemba (No transforming)
        Hirudegarn
        Watagash-Barry's powered up form
        Magetta
        Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
        Giant Monster Watagash

        ROF 4th form Freeza
        Frost 4th form
        Golden Freeza
        Bolded = wins
        Italics = could win or lose
        Others = defeated

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        Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

        Post by RehBeh » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:44 pm

        Pui Pui with the rock he intended to throw at Vegeta VS. Vegeta.
        GT wasn't that bad
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        ekrolo2 wrote: He is, its just that no one holds him in high esteem, even in-universe.
        He must feel awful. Being a God and no one respects him. Just sad.
        And Zamasu thought he had it bad. Fuckin' edgy Kaios thinking about "Justice" and shit just because they got strong by chance.

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        Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

        Post by Ki Breaker » Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:58 pm

        RehBeh wrote:Pui Pui with the rock he intended to throw at Vegeta VS. Vegeta.
        Lol what?
        Vegeta wins
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        Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:21 pm

        RehBeh wrote:Pui Pui with the rock he intended to throw at Vegeta VS. Vegeta.
        Pui Pui easily thrashes Vegeta.

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        Post by The gr » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:23 pm

        Here our answers of basil power https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhkNj9Ggv6I what are thoughts on this video
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        Post by Gog » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:28 pm

        Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto Vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta?

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        Post by pacz360 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:48 pm

        [quote="LowRyder2005"]I agree with Basil being around Perfect Cell tier. If you compare the (Fat) Buu vs. Dabra and (Good) Buu vs. Basil fights it appears clear to me that Basil would have jobbed as hard as Dabra did against Fat Buu. I think he's probably really sturdy and more powerful with the drug on, but in both cases his attack are always way too weak to bother Mr. Buu, who is at most around 40% or 45% of his former power.
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        Well of course he'll lose to fat buu who was in the ssj3 tier of power.
        But buff basil should be ssj2 tier due to be take a full power kamehameha from mr.buu before the fruit wore off even before was able to trade blows with him
        Even buu mention that basil was strong.

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        Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

        Post by pacz360 » Sun Feb 19, 2017 4:49 pm

        Gog wrote:Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto Vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta?
        Gogeta stomps unless it's a gt version of vegito

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