The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[pacz360]

Here our answers of basil power https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhkNj9Ggv6I what are thoughts on this video

Disagree with him being fat buu level but majin vegeta leveled is right.

[The gr]

Here our answers of basil power https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhkNj9Ggv6I what are thoughts on this video

Disagree with him being fat buu level but majin vegeta leveled is right.

I think he stated it that his base form is in Majin Vegeta tier and full powered form is nearly close to fat Buu, but not strong as fat Buu

[dragon boss z]

Wow your downplaying basil,he is not perfect cell tier in his base or when he full powered,if he was that tier he wouldn't stand chance against Buu like dabura did during his fight with Buu,I would put his base form SPC tier and his full powered at Majin Vegeta ssj2 tier,like Doctor said, mr Boo is much weaker than Fat Boo, but let's not pretend he's weaker than any SS2 we know.

it goes like this Mr buu≥full powered basil=Majin Vegeta≥base basil≥ Super perfect cell≥ssj2 teen Gohan

ssj2 teen Gohan should be stronger than super perfect Cell. And imo base basil is weaker than both of them by a good deal. Fat Buu was beating hi easier than evil Fat Buu was beating ssj2 majin Vegeta. evil Fat Buu is much stronger than good Fat Buu. He is actually over twice as strong.

Teen Gohan is definitely weaker than Cell, even Kid Gohan was barely stronger than him, there's no way Teen Gohan who's totally out of practice could beat Cell.

When people say teen Gohan they mean the one during the Cell games. Even though Buu saga Gohan is the one who is actually a teenager.

[Gog]

Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto Vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta?

Gogeta stomps unless it's a gt version of vegito

Their both Buu saga versions here. But besides that even if I was referring to the Gogeta from GT, it would not have mattered as Goku from GT isn't a whole lot stronger than Goku from Z

[dragonball0900]

Super Saiyan 3 Vegetto Vs Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta?

If they are both at Buu Saga versions then based on my own multipliers, I have Vegetto winning this after a good fight.

[dragon boss z]

current Piccolo vs current Buu

[TheUltimateNinja]

current Piccolo vs current Buu

Logically Piccolo should still get wrecked, but it's Super so who knows.

[dragon boss z]

current Piccolo vs current Buu

Logically Piccolo should still get wrecked, but it's Super so who knows.

That's what I'm thinking.

[dragonball0900]

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

[dragon boss z]

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

He clears unless Goku uses kaioken.

[dragon boss z]

Here our answers of basil power https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LhkNj9Ggv6I what are thoughts on this video

Disagree with him being fat buu level but majin vegeta leveled is right.

I think he stated it that his base form is in Majin Vegeta tier and full powered form is nearly close to fat Buu, but not strong as fat Buu

I disagree with him. I disagree with most of his videos tbh. As for Basil's power I would say his base form is around buu saga ssj1 tier and his powered up form is around majin ssj2 Vegeta, maybe slightly more. The reason I say this is because good Buu is over 2 times weaker than the orignal Fat Buu, and majin Vegeta put up a better fight against the stronger version of fat Buu. this pretty much solidifies that ssj2 majin Vegeta is above base Basil. As for the powered up Basil, he was really close to good Buu, but Buu did say he was stronger. And I do think good Buu was a bit stronger than ssj2 Vegeta. So powered up Basil being around ssj2 majin Vegeta makes sense.

[apex_pretador]

Dabra VS. Frost.
Dabra's spit is allowed.
Frost begins in First Form.

Frost one shots

Spit is non factor?

Nope, but frost is too powerful. If he gets a chance to spit, dabra would win.

Freeza heavily implied that he was vastly suppressed in his final form against goku, so he powers up and defeats frost.

When did he implied it?

In DBS
I remember something like Freeza saying SSB goku is worth to see his golden form (which he did not expect), but he outright told goku to turn super saiyan before he turned SSB.

GryllTagoma (Super)
Hatchiyack
Dabra unless he spits
Movie 10 LSSj Broli
Super Perfect Cell
Ginyu Tagoma
Aka
Fat Janemba (No transforming)
Hirudegarn
Watagash-Barry's powered up form
Magetta
Zamasu (Goku's timeline. The one that Beerus killed)
Giant Monster Watagash
ROF 4th form Freeza
Frost 4th form
Golden Freeza

Defeats all characters marked, and loses to rest. lol @ golden freeza even being there

You think Tagoma takes Basil? Why?

[/quote]
I probably missed it but no, he doesn't.

Pui Pui with the rock he intended to throw at Vegeta VS. Vegeta.

Rock solos with a Rock Bottom and stomps if people's elbow is allowed.

current Piccolo vs current Buu

There is no way to tell who wins. Piccolo with makanosappo is more powerful than buu but it won't affect buu.

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

Freeza kills them all, but if they are all fighting as a team, he would need to go 100%

[TheUltimateNinja]

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

Frieza gets beaten by both versions of Goku and Gohan, Buu Arc Vegeta, Kibito and Yakon.

[DanielSSJ]

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

50% Freeza thrashes CG Trunks and Vegeta, but meets his match with CG Goku and Gohan. All of the Boo Arc Saiyans are stronger than him, though Gohan might be weak and unskilled enough that Freeza could work something out. Kibito is pretty much even with him in power, but I'd be willing to bet that Freeza would be a better fighter than Shin's attendant. Yakon is nearly as strong as 100% Freeza, so 50% wouldn't be enough.

[TheUltimateNinja]

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

50% Freeza thrashes CG Trunks and Vegeta, but meets his match with CG Goku and Gohan. All of the Boo Arc Saiyans are stronger than him, though Gohan might be weak and unskilled enough that Freeza could work something out. Kibito is pretty much even with him in power, but I'd be willing to bet that Freeza would be a better fighter than Shin's attendant. Yakon is nearly as strong as 100% Freeza, so 50% wouldn't be enough.

Kibito probably has some special abilities up his sleeve, though.

[DanielSSJ]

Kibito probably has some special abilities up his sleeve, though.

As soon as we see those abilities, I'll reconsider my answer, but until then, I'm making my decision on what was shown and said.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Kibito probably has some special abilities up his sleeve, though.

As soon as we see those abilities, I'll reconsider my answer, but until then, I'm making my decision on what was shown and said.

Judging by Toyo's manga he should possess the abilities of a Kaioshin ie: Materializing objects, healing, paralysis etc.

[DanielSSJ]

Judging by Toyo's manga he should possess the abilities of a Kaioshin ie: Materializing objects, healing, paralysis etc.

Materializing objects is rarely shown to be a useful ability in battle. The only time it was that I can think of is Dabra's sword, and that got broken almost immediately. Kibito's healing ability takes time, and he might not be able to use it on himself. Not useful in one-on-one combat. Paralysis could be useful, but if it's anything like Shin's, Kibito won't be able to move or take any offensive actions while he's holding his opponent down.

We haven't seen Kibito fight much at all, and his special skills aren't game breaking. With all this in mind, I favor the idea that a war-mongering tyrant with a plethora of directly offensive techniques and abilities (penetrating beam, controllable Kienzan, paralyzing light ball), and with the ability to tank overpowering attacks and survive horrific injuries would be more likely to overcome a peaceful divine butler in a fight, assuming that they possess roughly the same level of strength.

[Noah]

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

Freeza kills them all, but if they are all fighting as a team, he would need to go 100%

So none of the Saiyans in your view have reach a BP above 60 million in base? Also shouldn't Yakon be stronger than Base Goku? I think Freeza would hit the wall in Base Boo arc Goku. (he possibly could defeat Kibito though)

[dragon boss z]

50% Frieza vs

1. Base Cell Games Trunks
2. Base Cell Games Vegeta
3. Base Cell Games Goku
4. Base Cell Games Gohan
5. Base Buu Saga Gohan
6. Base Buu Saga Vegeta
7. Base Buu Saga Goku
8. Kibito
9. Yakon

Who wins?

Freeza kills them all, but if they are all fighting as a team, he would need to go 100%

So none of the Saiyans in your view have reach a BP above 60 million in base? Also shouldn't Yakon be stronger than Base Goku? I think Freeza would hit the wall in Base Boo arc Goku. (he possibly could defeat Kibito though)

Frieza has already been confirmed to be above base BoG Goku.