Dragonball Stuff You've Just Realized

[Ahiru77]

It's because of that I only listen to quality music. And no one from the music industry would call Faulconer's music for quality music either

You're speaking for an entire industry full of people with varying taste. Moreover said industry is based on what sells and what's hot not on actual artistic merit. There are tons of reasons to hate on the dub score, but using a hypothetical situation where the fucking music industry doesn't care for it is not one of them.


It's all subjective anyway. I like it. It's not Dragon Ball. The original score is better, and yes, has much higher quality. But it's not bad music. Its actually pretty unique. I haven't heard anything like it before or since.

They were doing a show that didn't have that cult status in America as it did in Japan. They wanted to suck in as many kids as possible. What's the best way to do that?
Make it "cool". Make it "refreshing". Add some nonsensical techno tunes and barf a couple of instruments into it (which was a genre which was very popular at that time), and it will be great!
Sadly, I have heard much more original and better tracks and songs that make Faulconer's track seem like amateur work.
And they are made by normal people, not people that do it as a profession.

In any sense, Faulconer's track wasn't in any sense a musical sensation, nor was it by any means a score that's enjoyable by people who know music. My bet was that he was cheap to hire and that Funimation didn't give a crap anyways, as long as it sounded "hippety hip", like the music the "young 'uns listen to these days".

And from what I've heard from most fans of the score; they don't give much attention to quality anyways.

Boo!

That's terrahble, man! Bruce Faulconer is a musical genius.

[Blue]

My bet was that he was cheap to hire and that Funimation didn't give a crap anyways, as long as it sounded "hippety hip", like the music the "young 'uns listen to these days".

For sure, the entirety of the season 3 dub started out on an extremely small budget which is why they were pulling no name VA's off the street.That being said some of the Bruce stuff is amusing to me. I like a few tunes and enjoy how a couple songs blend in with the animation but it's nowhere near my ipod. If I wanted videogamey music that worked well as a single track I'd just listen to Kai's OST.

Apparently Bruce is supposed to be a musical genius that can run laps around the Japanese score given the proper tools so...make of that what you will. I've never heard much of his work outside of his dub DBZ stuff.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

They were doing a show that didn't have that cult status in America as it did in Japan. They wanted to suck in as many kids as possible. What's the best way to do that?
Make it "cool". Make it "refreshing". Add some nonsensical techno tunes and barf a couple of instruments into it (which was a genre which was very popular at that time), and it will be great!
Sadly, I have heard much more original and better tracks and songs that make Faulconer's track seem like amateur work.
And they are made by normal people, not people that do it as a profession.

In any sense, Faulconer's track wasn't in any sense a musical sensation, nor was it by any means a score that's enjoyable by people who know music. My bet was that he was cheap to hire and that Funimation didn't give a crap anyways, as long as it sounded "hippety hip", like the music the "young 'uns listen to these days".

And from what I've heard from most fans of the score; they don't give much attention to quality anyways.

That's great, but that's all your opinion. Taste in music is entirely subjective, no matter how bad you think a certain genre or artist is. Heck, there are a lot of people out there who actually like Soulja Boy.

[Kid Buu]

Another thing about Krillin. He never trained in high gravity.

I don't think Gohan did either, or did the RoSaT have some gravity thing?

[Innagadadavida]

In any sense, Faulconer's track wasn't in any sense a musical sensation, nor was it by any means a score that's enjoyable by people who know music. My bet was that he was cheap to hire and that Funimation didn't give a crap anyways, as long as it sounded "hippety hip", like the music the "young 'uns listen to these days".

And from what I've heard from most fans of the score; they don't give much attention to quality anyways.

Look, I'm not arguing with you on whether or not it fits Dragon Ball. I outright said in my post that it doesn't. I'm also not defending the decision to replace the original music. It happened. It's over now. It could have been better. It could have been a lot worse.

But you seem to believe that music has to be sensational to be enjoyable. To that, I retort, that if it weren't for unsensational music, there would be no such thing as sensational. I'm a fucking music snob. I'll outright admit it. I love what I love and hate what I don't. I'm also a musician, a good one. I've played in several bands, in front of many people. When I listen to music, I listen for something that speaks to me instrumentally. Vocals are rarely ever even a part of that. But I digress. The point is, I "know" music, as you have described. I'll agree that the broadcast dub score was entirely and utterly unsensational. It didn't take the world by storm. It wasn't reviewed in Guitar World or Rolling Stone. It was just a mediocre replacement score for a mediocre foreign cartoon series.

With all that in mind. You can't say that it is unenjoyable to people who know music. You can not. That is ignorant, short-sighted, and all-in-all a silly thing to say. Different music speaks to different people. Different music is sensational to different people. Apples and oranges.

Your main reason for being down on the dub score is because of the intent behind the replacement and the fact that it substituted something that's unarguably superior (in quality, skill, and fitting). Both of these reasons are fact. But they are not reasons to criticize the score musically. So don't pretend like it's bad music, then use reasoning that has nothing to do with the music itself.

And even if it is, it's all good. All music, even the bad stuff, has it's place. Except motherfucking Kings of Leon that shit sucks monkey nipples.

[LeprikanGT]

Whether you think you "know" music or not or whether you think you are a good or bad musician, most everything you just said above was OPINION, not fact.

[Innagadadavida]

Whether you think you "know" music or not or whether you think you are a good or bad musician, most everything you just said above was OPINION, not fact.

How can I say this without being mean...

Fucking duuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh.

EDIT: What I mean to say is... Of course that's my opinion. I never claimed it was fact. Do I need to specify every time I write a fact that it is a fact, and every time I write an opinion that it's an opinion? I'm sorry but if you can't separate a fact from an opinion reading on your own, you're in trouble buddy. Especially on the Internet.

Also, I'm a pretty good musician. I'm proud of my skill. I'm not great. But I'm proficient.

[Drayenko]

Another thing about Krillin. He never trained in high gravity.

I don't think Gohan did either, or did the RoSaT have some gravity thing?

Gravity x10, IIRC.

[Ringworm128]

I just can't see the Ginyu thing -.-'

I just realized Ginyu sorta looks like he back traced it and contacted the cyber police.

[Strongbad456]

I just realized the other day that Tsufuru-jin is a pun of Fruits/Furutsu. I can't believe I never figured that out before.

[AgitoZ]

Just realized the American Dragon Ball logo, is just the Japanese DBZ logo.

[Blue]

Huh, that's pretty cool. Nice find Agito.

[Castor Troy]

I just realized that the Genki Dama never killed anyone in the series until the end battle with Majin Buu.

I also realized it worked every time in the movies (movie 7 was a tad different though).

[Makaioshin]

I also realized it worked every time in the movies (movie 7 was a tad different though).

The first Genki Dama in movie 3 didn't work.

[Metalwario64]

I also realized it worked every time in the movies (movie 7 was a tad different though).

The first Genki Dama in movie 3 didn't work.

Only 'cuz TERLESS somehow knew it was... a Spirit Bomb!

[Godo]

When Dende heals Vegeta after the fight against Pure Buu is over, you see a sweat drop on his face, aswell as a nervous expression on his face.
It seems like that he hadn't forgot the kick he got from Vegeta yet (after he had healed him in the fight against Freeza).
Almost as if he expected another kick in the face when he healed Vegeta again.

[SHINOBI-03]

I just realized that Tapion looks like a fusion between Chrono and Link!

[Castor Troy]

I just finally caught the Arale cameo gag in Movie 8 during Roshi's drunk dancing.

[Piccolo Daimaoh]

I just finally caught the Arale cameo gag in Movie 8 during Roshi's drunk dancing.

Wait, what? Explain please.

[SuperSaiyan3Goku]

I just finally caught the Arale cameo gag in Movie 8 during Roshi's drunk dancing.

Wait, what? Explain please.

I've seen Movie 8 so many times, and I've never seen any "Arale Cameo Gag". Explain yourself, mister!