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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:01 am

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Makaioshin wrote:If it is like Nostal's fan wish project then we finally have a sequel to Anime Designer: Dragon Ball Z.
What's that?

As for anyone who doesn't know what's Nostal's "Raging Blast 3", check this: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set= ... 648&type=1
Makioshin is referring this, though I'm having a tough time understanding the joke. Does the amount of costumes make you think of that game?
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:29 am

I am 100% sure that Super Saiyan God Goku & Beers (and maybe Whis) will be in the Japanese version, but I don't know about the international release... But then again, we got Tarble.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:12 pm

They wouldn't take that shit out of an international release. It would only make more buzz for the film over seas and fans would be pissed off over their absence.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:27 pm

Whatever the game, I'm buying, hope SSG Goku and Bills are in it.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Apr 15, 2013 2:47 pm

90,564 likes

It ain't all that bad after all, but yeah it did slowdown considerably. Either way, at this rate it shouldn't take too long.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Insertclevername » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:19 pm

I predict about 2 weeks, more or less.
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I know how we can vote go to control panel and change your country to united kingdom the facebook page will open up. :o
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:48 pm

Namco Bandai would have to have a very poor legal department to okay the development team directly using ideas from a fan.
Thanos wrote:I'm pretty sure one of the producers intimated that Ultimate Blast and DBZ for Kinect were basically smoke and mirror titles to fulfill the obligation of the yearly releases. Ultimate Blast was basically Raging Blast 2 with a tweaked engine (made worse, really), slightly touched up graphics, and a few new characters (with a lot taken out). It's clearly just a rebranded Raging Blast 2. The animations are all the same, the character models are all the same, and the sounds are all the same. DBZ for Kinect is even worse, it's Ultimate Tenkaichi, but first-person. Same battles, same scenes, exact same graphics and stages... to me, this is damning evidence that Spike came up with a plan to finally satisfy fans who are looking for a good, solid, polished game. Sacrifice a couple of years, releasing garbage, but on the side work on a serious game. We're happy, they make more money. Everyone wins.
Are you ignorant to the realities of making a game on an annual schedule? Reused music, animations, character models, and sounds are pretty much the MO. See: every single sports video game ever developed. See: Budokai Tenkaichi 2, and Budokai Tenkaichi 3. Granted, Dragon Ball Z for Kinect is pretty shameless in it simply being a re-skinned project, but I never got that impression from Ultimate Tenkaichi. You don't hire Toei to re-animate a bunch of cutscenes, create a boss battle system, completely re-vamp the fight engine and add a very limited create-a-character mode in a year just to fulfill a contractual obligation while you're secretly diverting team resources on making a better game in 2 years.

Even if what you're saying is true it's frankly disgusting behavior that shouldn't be encouraged or rewarded. Spike Chunsoft should not be allowed to put out garbage for four years straight and have fans suddenly fall in love with them because on the fifth year they finally put out something competent. Everything but Kinect launched at a full MSRP of $59.99 so clearly Namco Bandai didn't think anything less of those projects and neither should you. Spike Chunsoft gave it their all in the time allocated, and their all is not worth anyone's money.

I'm of the opinion that Spike Chunsoft is degrading public opinion of Dragon Ball games with their constant trash. Sales support this as none of their games have sold nearly as well as Burst Limit, a title that isn't all that great. Personally, I was never this jaded regarding Dragon Ball games until Namco Bandai felt it was okay putting out trash from Spike. They had three legitimate opportunities to make something good, and failed each time. New batter please.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:55 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Namco Bandai would have to have a very poor legal department to okay the development team directly using ideas from a fan.
Isn't Nostal's DBRB3 supposed to be what most of the fans want?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:57 pm

Based on sales most fans do not want a Raging Blast anything from anyone.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:02 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Based on sales most fans do not want a Raging Blast anything from anyone.
Well, the Raging Blast 3 name is just a name to go by, since the content seems to be a combination of all the good things from the Budokai, Sparking!, and Raging/Ultimate Blast series, plus more stuff. It's not a real hypothetical Raging Blast game.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

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I know how we can like on the facebook page, go to control panel and change your country to united kingdom and the facebook page will open up. :o

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:16 pm

BT4 would be a better name to go by, after seeing what some people were like over the whole Sparking Omega thing it seems just the name would help sell.

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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:26 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:BT4 would be a better name to go by, after seeing what some people were like over the whole Sparking Omega thing it seems just the name would help sell.
Budokai Tenkaichi 4 or Raging Blast 3 would be more or less the same because the engine is practically the same with some differences.

Namco Bandai even named Tenkaichi 4 back in 2009 with a new title...
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Next Level Tenkaichi = Tenkaichi 4, but RB1's not that good. It looks pretty, though.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

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enjyu123 wrote:I know how we can like on the facebook page, go to control panel and change your country to united kingdom and the facebook page will open up. :o

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Which control panel, facebook, browser or computer? I just used a proxy to bypass it.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:42 pm

I do wish that people should stop wishing for Raging Blast 3. Raging Blast 2 bombed with sales which is why they did Ultimate Tenkaichi/Ultimate Blast. When has a video game that bombed got a sequel? Besides if we do get a Raging Blast 3 then everyone here is going to bitch that it give us something new and that it was Raging Blast 2.5. Nostal's ideas do sound awesome, but I don't think Spike will ever used everything that he wrote. Not to mention not every awesome idea on paper is going to turn out great on screen.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:17 pm

People are saying that the region lock has been ticked off, so I guess Americans can do their part and boost it up to 100k or whatever.

So far: 90,726 likes not even 91k yet.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:31 pm

dbboxkaifan wrote:People are saying that the region lock has been ticked off, so I guess Americans can do their part and boost it up to 100k or whatever.
Eh, I'm still getting a "This page does not exist" notice.
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Re: Bandai planning to "conquer the world"?

Post by Super Sayian Prime » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:32 pm

facebook.com/dbz.videogames is still region-locked.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:52 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I do wish that people should stop wishing for Raging Blast 3. Raging Blast 2 bombed with sales which is why they did Ultimate Tenkaichi/Ultimate Blast. When has a video game that bombed got a sequel? Besides if we do get a Raging Blast 3 then everyone here is going to bitch that it give us something new and that it was Raging Blast 2.5. Nostal's ideas do sound awesome, but I don't think Spike will ever used everything that he wrote. Not to mention not every awesome idea on paper is going to turn out great on screen.
Is it that fans want a raging blast 3 or are they just using the name of Nostal's game idea. I'd prefer if they took his game and called it Tenkachi 4 personally.

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