"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Anime Kitten]

Episode 69 summary: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/

Looks like nothing new. But that's via Google Translate, so take it as you will.

[alakazam^]

Episode 69 summary: http://www.fujitv.co.jp/b_hp/dragonball_super/

Arale's playful heart goes out of control because of a drug given by Dr. Mashirito. Does she end up fighting Vegeeta, who went to stop her, and Goku, who she hasn't seen in a long time?

[DBS916]

Darn, I really liked watching it Live. Oh well, 8:15 it is. At least I won't have to worry about not knowing what they're saying.

Agreed. However, I don't mind waiting a few hours for better quality and subtitles. This is much better than when I had to wait a day or so in order to see better quality episodes with subtitles.

[JulieYBM]

Hatano Morio is now credited second under series director. 羽多野浩平 (Hatano Kouhei, no relation to Morio) is credited first. When Chioka Kimitoshi was phased out as series director for Hatano Morio the same thing occurred. We've now gone from two of the best directors at Toei leading the series through cruel conditions to a first-time series director with little in the way of exciting visual prowess as leader of the series. This sucks.

[Chuquita]

Depressing.

Only upside I can see is maybe they're sending Hatano Morio back to "rescue" Precure.

[ArchedThunder]

If Morio is leaving that really sucks, but let's not jump to conclusions just yet.

[JulieYBM]

If Morio is leaving that really sucks, but let's not jump to conclusions just yet.

I spent a year holding out for Chioka's stepping down to be due to him directing a new movie. Hatano Morio being given the Chioka treatment here isn't likely to fulfill that dream.

[ArchedThunder]

If Morio is leaving that really sucks, but let's not jump to conclusions just yet.

I spent a year holding out for Chioka's stepping down to be due to him directing a new movie. Hatano Morio being given the Chioka treatment here isn't likely to fulfill that dream.

What I'm saying is maybe we're going to have two series directors, we'll just have to see. Maybe it was even an error in the credits since Kohei storyboarded this episode.
Obviously it's worrying, but I don't think we should freak out just yet.

[Hellspawn28]

That's the only reason Dragon Ball even exists as an anime.

Sure, aside from money, which is really what it all comes back to. Vegetto was likely only brought back so as to produce toys, figures, etc, and therefore to make more money.

Merged Zamasu is a potara fusion, so it makes sense to use Vegito. Toriyama is writing the story, he probably remembers Goku and Vegeta fusing with the portara, not the fusion dance from Fusion Reborn.

[dbs fanboy]

I'll just wait and see, Hatano leaving would suck But we're not completely sure are we?

Things are already negative out of Dragon ball, i'm going to try to be positive

[Saikyo no Senshi]

Super doesn't have a series composer. Chioka Kimitoshi, the first series director already left, signs don't look good for Hatano Morio either. What the hell is even happening I don't know.

If I have to make a wild guess I think Toei doesn't have much creative control over the series and the staff is just doing what Bandai, Shueisha and the production committee are telling them to do. Which could be a reason why Chioka left. It is a worrying sign. I hope Hatano stays.

[kinisking]

In episode 56 Trunks says Black isn't surprised by super saiyan blue, almost as if he's seen it before. I always thought it was because he has ssj rose, but it just now clicked that Zamasu saw ssb on God tube. That was a major hint that Zamasu was Black.

[Neon Z]

Super doesn't have a series composer. Chioka Kimitoshi, the first series director already left, signs don't look good for Hatano Morio either. What the hell is even happening I don't know.

If I have to make a wild guess I think Toei doesn't have much creative control over the series and the staff is just doing what Bandai, Shueisha and the production committee are telling them to do. Which could be a reason why Chioka left. It is a worrying sign. I hope Hatano stays.

Actually, I think Toei is controlling it too tightly. We know that the series has series composers for each arc, but they forced King Ryo to remove his blog post announcing his promotion back during the U6 arc, which is pretty odd. If the show were under Bandai's direction, I'm pretty sure we'd see direct ties to Dragonball Heroes and such - and wouldn't have situations like Kaioken Blue or the new Trunks form, where Bandai takes much longer to add Toei original content compared to the stuff from Toriyama's outline.

Besides, I don't see why people even miss the first series director. There were tons of misplaced bgm use and just badly framed shots under him (like his tendency to show characters from a distance where they could never be drawn well). Under the 2nd director the series hasn't suffered from those problems nearly as much. It has been an overall improvement on that front.

[JulieYBM]

Super doesn't have a series composer. Chioka Kimitoshi, the first series director already left, signs don't look good for Hatano Morio either. What the hell is even happening I don't know.

If I have to make a wild guess I think Toei doesn't have much creative control over the series and the staff is just doing what Bandai, Shueisha and the production committee are telling them to do. Which could be a reason why Chioka left. It is a worrying sign. I hope Hatano stays.

Actually, I think Toei is controlling it too tightly. We know that the series has series composers for each arc, but they forced King Ryo to remove his blog post announcing his promotion back during the U6 arc, which is pretty odd. If the show were under Bandai's direction, I'm pretty sure we'd see direct ties to Dragonball Heroes and such - and wouldn't have situations like Kaioken Blue or the new Trunks form, where Bandai takes much longer to add Toei original content compared to the stuff from Toriyama's outline.

Besides, I don't see why people even miss the first series director. There were tons of misplaced bgm use and just badly framed shots under him (like his tendency to show characters from a distance where they could never be drawn well). Under the 2nd director the series hasn't suffered from those problems nearly as much. It has been an overall improvement on that front.

The episode directors and audio director are in charge of placing the music, not the series director, unless they're being very hands on, which is nigh impossible in this situation. Also, Chioka is a great storyboard artist and never had the chance to personally work on the series.

[Neon Z]

The episode directors and audio director are in charge of placing the music, not the series director, unless they're being very hands on, which is nigh impossible in this situation. Also, Chioka is a great storyboard artist and never had the chance to personally work on the series.

I'm not talking timing and coordination of specific scenes, but larger overall decisions which should fall under the series director, especially in a case like this where the series director also doesn't really have control over the series' story direction. If he isn't managing the presentation side either, what would he even be doing?

There's also a distinct difference in usage even of old bgms after this transition, so I'm pretty sure the director had their hands there - like the use of Goku's goofy theme as an heroic turnaround theme in the first three arcs, compared to now where it's used for more appropriately goofy or just cheerful scenes.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

I'm not talking timing and coordination of specific scenes, but larger overall decisions which should fall under the series director, especially in a case like this where the series director also doesn't really have control over the series' story direction. If he isn't managing the presentation side either, what would he even be doing?

There's also a distinct difference in usage even of old bgms after this transition, so I'm pretty sure the director had their hands there - like the use of Goku's goofy theme as an heroic turnaround theme in the first three arcs, compared to now where it's used for more appropriately goofy or just cheerful scenes.

I don't think Chioka was able to do anything he wanted. Maybe cause of the poor schedule or the higher-ups not letting him exercise full control. It's why he never was able to personally oversee any episode I think. As mentioned already, he neither storyboarded nor directed a single episode. I don't know what the hell he did either as series director and probably we'll never know.

As for the usage of old bgms, Chioka is not to blame. It's the episode director not the series director mostly and the audio director who makes those choices.

[SansrivaaL]

So another one leaves super.... I'd pay to know whats happening in Toei, with that being said.... Super's fcked... isnt it?

[nite_jay]

So another one leaves super.... I'd pay to know whats happening in Toei, with that being said.... Super's fcked... isnt it?

I doubt it. I mean, he's a director for a reason, even if he is relatively new. At most I just wouldn't expect a big quality jump anytime soon; and that's even if he is confirmed to be the new director.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

So another one leaves super.... I'd pay to know whats happening in Toei, with that being said.... Super's fcked... isnt it?

We have no idea of his directing potential. At best, we'll probably keep a similar quality to what we have now. At worst, it still won't be as bad as the retellings.

[ArchedThunder]

Again, we don't know if Morio is leaving or not.