"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Doctor. » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:10 pm

At least 4 characters will lose, isn't this a Baba-styled tournament?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:15 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:the Ultimate DBs scattered but didn't turn to stone in GT...
I thought they did? Piccolo in GT mention that they would longer be used once he dies. Piccolo and Kami becoming one again is why the Black Star Dragon Balls are now able to be used again.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sandubadear » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:22 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:the Ultimate DBs scattered but didn't turn to stone in GT...
I thought they did? Piccolo in GT mention that they would longer be used once he dies. Piccolo and Kami becoming one again is why the Black Star Dragon Balls are now able to be used again.
They don't turn to stone after the wishes, is what he meant.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:27 pm

omaro34 wrote:Discounting the RoF movie, i haven't seen Piccolo take off his cape or turban since the Cell Games.
He also took them off in the Crossover Special with One Piece & Toriko.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:28 pm

Sandubadear wrote:I thought they did? Piccolo in GT mention that they would longer be used once he dies. Piccolo and Kami becoming one again is why the Black Star Dragon Balls are now able to be used again.
They don't turn to stone after the wishes, is what he meant.[/quote]
This. Presumably all Dragon Balls will turn to stone under some circumstance though: their creator dies, their dragon is killed, etc. Though it's all a lot of assumptions for the Super Dragon Balls right now.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Araki » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:30 pm

The problem with Buu being replaced after the written test is that the tournament is about to start, so the other fighters there (Kuririn, Tenshinhan, etc) didn't have time to train and prepare for this. At this point, i'd rather get Buu, as we shouldn't expect too much from the others.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:31 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:I dunno. The rules aren't consistent between sets. Earth's DBs turn to stone and scatter, Namek's DBs turn to stone but don't scatter, the Ultimate DBs scattered but didn't turn to stone in GT...

We know the Super DBs are said to scatter, but the turning to stone part isn't mentioned. Champa has been destroying planets trying to find them though. I wonder if they might go inert and grow a "planet shell" or something to disguise themselves?
I don't think they do. In the summary there's a part about the stars inside, looking that way from any angle. I would assume the function is to trick who looks at it from afar. Even mentioning how it was a patent. That's useless information, if not for this purpose.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:37 pm

But no matter how they look at it, the "stars" of Dragon Balls are never going to actually look like real stars. To me, that just feels like extra background info to explain why no matter how characters held the orbs, the shapes were always stars.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by LightBing » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:44 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:But no matter how they look at it, the "stars" of Dragon Balls are never going to actually look like real stars. To me, that just feels like extra background info to explain why no matter how characters held the orbs, the shapes were always stars.
That's true. But they might look different when in the middle of space. I just find that tidbit weird, if it's just what you said.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:52 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Kagari wrote:
LightBing wrote:They haven't even taken the written test. Whis was calling out Goku to take the test. What are the chances anyone fails, from either team?
I could see Buu failing. But who would replace him if he did?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbgtFO » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:30 pm

I really do like U6 Freeza's design and I think the lack of lipstick helps. It's such a minor detail, that it's first now I have noticed it, but I knew something was wrong, because it just seemed different from Freeza's first form, even though I couldn't put my finger on why that was, when they looked so similar.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:33 pm

Doctor. wrote:At least 4 characters will lose, isn't this a Baba-styled tournament?
Yes, its like that one.
Kagari wrote:
LightBing wrote:They haven't even taken the written test. Whis was calling out Goku to take the test. What are the chances anyone fails, from either team?
I could see Buu failing. But who would replace him if he did?
Gohan will come at the last minute.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:34 pm

Toriyama obviously stole my Xenoverse Freeza character without telling me. What part of "Original the character DO NOT STEAL" did he not get :lol:. Just gonna put this here in case some people can't tell I'm joking.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:41 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:Toriyama obviously stole my Xenoverse Freeza character without telling me. What part of "Original the character DO NOT STEAL" did he not get :lol:. Just gonna put this here in case some people can't tell I'm joking.
Those are the new "jokes". Now that Xenoverse and Heroes custom characters are famous, anytime people don't like a new character design will say that.
I already heard a lot "Toriyama stole it from Xenoverse/Heroes" for Champa's team. Seems like Toriyama now rip offs his own style. :roll:

Its a shame Great Saiyaman didn't debut in 2015.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by pacz360 » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:46 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
Doctor. wrote:At least 4 characters will lose, isn't this a Baba-styled tournament?
Yes, its like that one.
Kagari wrote:
LightBing wrote:They haven't even taken the written test. Whis was calling out Goku to take the test. What are the chances anyone fails, from either team?
I could see Buu failing. But who would replace him if he did?
Gohan will come at the last minute.
Considering he's at conference i doubt it.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:51 pm

pacz360 wrote: Considering he's at conference i doubt it.
He's at a conference about nutrition, in order to realize how he lost all his muscles. Everything will be fine.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Tsufuru » Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:57 pm

gohan is cleary planning a plot against toriyama.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Pannaliciour » Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:52 pm

Chuquita wrote:Was talking about female saiyans only because of Vegeta trivia dumping to Gokû in Chapter 6.

I'd be happy for the tournament to have a female mutant or Freeza race member. It just feels out of place in 2015 to have no female characters at all in the tournament.

Even the DB and Z tournaments had Ranfan, Chi-Chi, Videl, and Pan.
Thats why I like Toriyama, he doesn't give a .... about love and girls. Just Goku and the LOVE to fight strong characters.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Sakura » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:04 pm

Pannaliciour wrote:
Thats why I like Toriyama, he doesn't give a .... about love and girls. Just Goku and the LOVE to fight strong characters.
What in the world does a strong, female character have to do with "love"?? :roll:

In our current world of weak princesses and superficial Barbie dolls, I think it'd be amazing for there to be a proper female character in a show like Super, to give the little kids something better to look up to. I used to think Videl was a fantastic addition back then, but now she's just another useless filler character with no role other than 'nice, obedient kitchen wife'. Shame.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by precita » Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:10 pm

This is a tournament for aliens, why does it matter if there aren't any females? If they said the Pooh Bear was female would it make a difference?

We have Vados in the series anyway.

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