Dragonball Kai (FUNimation English) Dub: General Discussion

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by LilKokuLink » Tue May 25, 2010 4:52 pm

As a dub fan I would hate having Freeza recast, it would just not feel like Freeza anymore. I got into the show around the Freeza arc and those specific memories of him and his voice stand out a lot, personally I think recasting him would be a bad move. However, Gohan's voice being changed wasn't as bad as I thought it may have been so who knows, maybe I'll adapt to a new Freeza voice if Linda Young is indeed recast.

There's more of an impact on the dub fans if Freeza's voice is changed than the sub fans if it isn't. Most of the sub fans are probably sticking to the original anyway seeing as the dub came too late.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Metalwario64 » Tue May 25, 2010 7:08 pm

MetalMadness wrote:To this day my friends still make fun of Freeza's voice. Hell, the other day I watched the first ep of Z Kai with my GF and the first thing she asked me was if Freeza was a man or a woman.

So, I'd like a recast, to give the character more respect and credibility.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Tue May 25, 2010 8:02 pm

I actually semi-enjoy the new dub. Colleen Clinkenbeard is doing an excellent job, and I actually believe her Gohan more than Stephanie Nadolny's. And the fact that they kept the original names for some of the attacks is pretty cool too.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Suupaa Gohan 2 » Tue May 25, 2010 8:53 pm

...the fuck was Piccolo's attack still called 'Special Beam Cannon' when he launched it, but the next episode when he explains to Gohan how his father is dead, in the sepia-toned flashback, it's 'Makkankosappo'...? *not a fan of inconsistency*
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Gaffer Tape » Tue May 25, 2010 8:55 pm

Haha, did they do that? Funny FUNi...
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Gozar » Tue May 25, 2010 9:10 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Gozar wrote:If Freeza is recast, that'll be something completely new and different. The polar opposite of Linda Young's Freeza.
And... this would be a good thing. Which is why so many people want it so badly.
And even more people, don't want it. Look, I know more than anyone how unfitting the voice is for Freeza. If it's changed I'll eventually move on. But it doesn't change the fact that Linda Young's been doing the voice for 11 years now. It's not like 1999 when you only had a cast working on the series for 2 years. These voices are so engraved in peoples minds. Which is why Dub Character names won't go away (i.e. "Krillin").

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Tue May 25, 2010 9:11 pm

It's because Makankosappo is the coolest word ever.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Blue » Tue May 25, 2010 9:15 pm

So I was watching the dub with my father tonight and he brought up something I didn't notice. He asked me why Goku didn't grab Raditz's tail instead of getting him into the grappling hold. I had to explain to him why not. It's really hard to notice these things when you just have the answers floating around in your subconscious. I think this just highlights how sloppy the early Kai episodes were. If a person who knows absolutely nothing about Dragon Ball can't follow the story because you're cutting out important pieces of information you've failed your job. Luckily they improve later on. Even rewatching these early episodes I notice how crummy the pacing is. I think early Kai put a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths which is why there's a lot more hate for it then I think it deserves nowadays. It's kind of like the dub in that way huh?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by JulieYBM » Tue May 25, 2010 9:49 pm

They did this all the time with One Piece. They'll just slip in the original name every once in a while for the heck of it.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Big Momma » Tue May 25, 2010 11:44 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:Haha, did they do that? Funny FUNi...
That would be more Nicktoons fault, wouldn't it?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed May 26, 2010 12:05 am

Why would it be? As I said in another thread, while I'm sure Nicktoons mandates what is to be edited for their network, I highly, highly DOUBT they do any of it themselves. In fact, I'd say I'm 99.9repeating% sure that, aside from their annoying credit crunching, they do none of the editing. They tell FUNimation this and this needs to be censored, and FUNimation makes a censored version that they hand off to the network. FUNimation even self-censored their own edited product back on CN beyond CN's censorship standards. I mean, honestly, do you think it was Nicktoons that digitally painted "Tenkaichi Budoukai" romanji over the kanji? Would they even have any idea what that means? Mark my words. That's FUNimation.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by bkev » Wed May 26, 2010 12:24 am

I think they're just making one syndication/network cut under the direction of 4Kids.
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Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed May 26, 2010 12:26 am

Right. Nice catch. But my point remains the same: it's FUNimation who's actually making the broadcast edit.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by bkev » Wed May 26, 2010 12:45 am

They perform the editing, but they don't choose what gets cut. Though I can imagine they're playing it safe, ie if 4Kids says "too much blood" they just remove it all rather than leaving a few spots here and there. You know? I hope they'll lessen up a bit, but who knows?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed May 26, 2010 1:45 am

bkev wrote:They perform the editing, but they don't choose what gets cut.
*cough* Erm... I know. That's exactly what I said.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by dragondyle » Wed May 26, 2010 1:54 am

Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:...the fuck was Piccolo's attack still called 'Special Beam Cannon' when he launched it, but the next episode when he explains to Gohan how his father is dead, in the sepia-toned flashback, it's 'Makkankosappo'...? *not a fan of inconsistency*
Wait, on Nicktoons in the flashback, Piccolo still says Special Beam Cannon. Doesn't he not?
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by ohaimynameiserik » Wed May 26, 2010 1:57 am

dragondyle wrote:
Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:...the fuck was Piccolo's attack still called 'Special Beam Cannon' when he launched it, but the next episode when he explains to Gohan how his father is dead, in the sepia-toned flashback, it's 'Makkankosappo'...? *not a fan of inconsistency*
Wait, on Nicktoons in the flashback, Piccolo still says Special Beam Cannon. Doesn't he not?
Didn't watch it, but almost everyone here says during the flashback, Makankosappo made its way in.

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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by dragondyle » Wed May 26, 2010 2:00 am

ohaimynameiserik wrote:
dragondyle wrote:
Suupaa Gohan 2 wrote:...the fuck was Piccolo's attack still called 'Special Beam Cannon' when he launched it, but the next episode when he explains to Gohan how his father is dead, in the sepia-toned flashback, it's 'Makkankosappo'...? *not a fan of inconsistency*
Wait, on Nicktoons in the flashback, Piccolo still says Special Beam Cannon. Doesn't he not?
Didn't watch it, but almost everyone here says during the flashback, Makankosappo made its way in.
Hmm, that's odd. Must have heard it wrong then. If something like that did happen, my brother would say something about it because he is the kind of person that will freak out over changes or inconsistencies like that. Or he just didn't hear it, too. :P But does sound like a major slip up on Funi's part. They could have just left it alone in the first place.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by bkev » Wed May 26, 2010 2:05 am

In response to Gaffer Tape: this is why I should just stay at OT.com... haha. Also, I'm pretty sure you're not the only one to report Makankosappo in the flashback.
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Re: Dragonball Kai Dub

Post by Gaffer Tape » Wed May 26, 2010 2:10 am

bkev wrote:In response to Gaffer Tape: this is why I should just stay at OT.com... haha.
Why would that make any difference? I'm always right there too. :wink:
Also, I'm pretty sure you're not the only one to report Makankosappo in the flashback.
Wait, is that referring to me or dragondyle? Because when did I report the Makankosappo? I never even saw the episode! :lol:
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