"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:20 pm

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Any of you two know if the OP is still in Japanese on the BD?
Haven't checked the actual episodes but when I checked the creditless openings, they were both only in Japanese
Okay cool! I'm still not feeling the Engrish OP at all so that's relieving. Wonder why the dubbed ED wasn't broadcast?

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Post by Footlong Shoe » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:46 pm

Magetta was definitely not saying "Chugga chugga you're fucked". Even Adult Swim censors the F word.

That said, I have no idea what he was actually saying. It sounded like "fuck" to me too, but I know that can't be it.

As for my opinion on his voice, it didn't bother me much. I guess I just don't care about Magetta.
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Post by Son Vegito » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:07 pm

I don't live in the US so the only way for me to watch DBS dubbed is on the internet. It could be because of the streams, but why is the sound quality significantly less good than the Japanese version?

I prefer Magetta's English voice over the Japanese one

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Post by DHM211 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:27 pm

Son Vegito wrote:but why is the sound quality significantly less good than the Japanese version?
Its just Toonami's version that sound like that. Super sounds fine on bluray/dvd.

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Post by Asura » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:32 pm

Real quick, does anyone watch these episodes on adultswim.com? If so, why is the quality so poor? You'd think getting it right from adultswim it would be in 1080p but nope...

Haven't watched the episode yet so I dunno about Magetta but I saw a clip on YouTube with Hit and oh man, I'm so happy that they decided to change voice actors. Mercer is so fitting for Hit, the other guy from XV2 was just straight up BAD. I know people were like nah don't worry once he's in the anime he'll sound better and yeah, he sure does sound better now that he's got a new voice actor lol.

If the XV2 voice actors aren't final for the anime then I really hope they replace Zamasu too. I don't care how much people like James Marsters or how much he likes Dragon Ball, his take on Zamasu is just so old and dreary and emotionless, I've seen people compare him to Microsoft Sam. If they don't replace him, then I at least hope he decides to change up how he'll voice Zamasu because I think the interpretation he's going with now is really bad. Zamasu isn't supposed to sound like an emotionless old man, on the contrary he should be showing a lot of emotion in his voice since we see how passionate he is about his cause and about himself.

Only time will tell I guess. How far off are we from the start of the FT arc anyhow? Are we going to reach it somewhere around March or so?

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Post by Saturnine » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:51 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fsx09hDU0Sw

Can't believe I'm the only guy who was reminded of this by Magetta's voice.

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Post by DHM211 » Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:57 pm

Asura wrote: Only time will tell I guess. How far off are we from the start of the FT arc anyhow? Are we going to reach it somewhere around March or so?
Accounting for US holidays we should reach it around mid January.

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Post by Lord Frieza » Sun Oct 01, 2017 2:25 pm

Hit sounds a lot better then he did in XV2, he's got the edge that was sourly missing.

Magetta......WTAF! Why dose he sound like TFS #19!!!! Part of whta made him so fun was how overly jovial and nice he sounded. This suck, CHOO-POO!!!!!

Edit: Also while I like his voice, Fuwa is kind of a dick, not as bad a Rou mind you but not exactly nice either.

Edit 2: :eh: is Magetta british under all that synth?

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Post by Hit!! » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:17 pm

Its so exciting to know that by the end of this year we might be in the Zamasu Arc..

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:41 pm

MajinMan wrote:It's not a matter of preference, it's a matter of accuracy. The old dub was terrible in terms of accuracy. It did not capture what Dragon Ball truly is, it instead created a weird, new Dragon Ball that people now have nostalgia for. You can prefer it all you want, but it's filled with bad dubbing practices that shouldn't be acceptable today. The fact that the Super dub has some of those bad habits slipping in every now and then isn't representative with how they've approached the series in the past 7 years. Now Super is still a much better dub, but it's a shame that it resorts to these dumb practices to appeal to it's older, more nostalgic fans.

And they did rewrite Magetta. Sure he had no lines in the original version, but they decided to turn him into some meme character that talks in text-to-speech because haha so funny.
1. I don't think they're reverting to old dubbing practices at all & certainly not to appeal to old dub fans. Where the hell is this coming from? The episodes are accurate to the original Japanese, & in some cases MORE accurate than the Crunchyroll subs as some have analyzed. Other than dub names, I don't believe they really go too off script from the Japanese. They get pronunciations right, they translate really well, the acting's great, the dub actors fit their rolls, & other things. There's too much being done right to say they're trying to appeal to old dub fans rather than whoever likes the current dub.
2. Who in the hell would find English Magetta funny? He's just saying random words strung together incoherently. I fail to see how that would be humorous, even if that were the intention. Also, what jokes do they throw in? The only thrown in joke I can remember was Goku saying he forgot his tractor, which was an outtake that they decided to keep in anyways because it helped with the humor, which was only physical humor anyways. Personally, I don't think I would've found that scene too funny without that line. It was an in-between arcs episode, so it's not like it really mattered, especially when the episode is accurate in its translation anyways.
3. I've seen a clip of Magetta in Japanese &, honestly, he didn't impress there either for me. Sure, it's an actual person saying the lines rather than text-to-speech, but his lines are, what I assume is, Japanese gibberish & grunts, as opposed to actual words he's saying. In english, he sounds more like Robo Knight from Power Rangers Megaforce with that voice synthesizer, if it's not text-to-speech. That's how this works. Unless robots/androids/cyborgs are more human, in a lot of English media, they have voice synthesizers, when in Japanese, it doesn't really matter. That's just how it goes.
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Post by Scsigs » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:43 pm

Footlong Shoe wrote:Magetta was definitely not saying "Chugga chugga you're fucked". Even Adult Swim censors the F word.

That said, I have no idea what he was actually saying. It sounded like "fuck" to me too, but I know that can't be it.

As for my opinion on his voice, it didn't bother me much. I guess I just don't care about Magetta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRrN0IUkp6Y
He says, "Chugga, chugga, chugga, spark" towards the end of that clip.
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Post by MR.Mark » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:44 pm

Footlong Shoe wrote:Magetta was definitely not saying "Chugga chugga you're fucked". Even Adult Swim censors the F word.

That said, I have no idea what he was actually saying. It sounded like "fuck" to me too, but I know that can't be it.
That's why they did it on purpose, to be sneaky, like a more subtle version of Guldo's "Shiiiiiii"

Could be wrong, and I hope I am.

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Post by MR.Mark » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:47 pm

Scsigs wrote:
Footlong Shoe wrote:Magetta was definitely not saying "Chugga chugga you're fucked". Even Adult Swim censors the F word.

That said, I have no idea what he was actually saying. It sounded like "fuck" to me too, but I know that can't be it.

As for my opinion on his voice, it didn't bother me much. I guess I just don't care about Magetta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRrN0IUkp6Y
He says, "Chugga, chugga, chugga, spark" towards the end of that clip.
Wrong clip, it's right after Vegeta complains about all the heat Megeta is creating.

EDIT, right at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAywCsn1nMo

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:50 pm

MR.Mark wrote:
Scsigs wrote:
Footlong Shoe wrote:Magetta was definitely not saying "Chugga chugga you're fucked". Even Adult Swim censors the F word.

That said, I have no idea what he was actually saying. It sounded like "fuck" to me too, but I know that can't be it.

As for my opinion on his voice, it didn't bother me much. I guess I just don't care about Magetta.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRrN0IUkp6Y
He says, "Chugga, chugga, chugga, spark" towards the end of that clip.
Wrong clip, it's right after Vegeta complains about all the heat Megeta is creating.

EDIT, right at the end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAywCsn1nMo
That's why I PUT, "towards the end."
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Post by MR.Mark » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:51 pm

Um yeah, but again, you posted a completely different scene to which I'm referring. I' m hearing the fucked line at the end of the episode when Vegeta is sweating as a SSJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAywCsn1nMo

"Something's wrong, with this heat!" "chugachugyerfucked"
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Post by Scsigs » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:55 pm

Son Vegito wrote:I don't live in the US so the only way for me to watch DBS dubbed is on the internet. It could be because of the streams, but why is the sound quality significantly less good than the Japanese version?
That's how rights stuff works. Often times, unless it's a special agreement, they just have a Japanese stereo or mono, depending on how old the shows or movies are. Rarely, unless it's a movie or something, do you see anime releases get anything above a stereo language track overseas. It's a means to prevent the reverse importation of Japanese people getting cheaper releases or downloads of the things from other countries into their home country, due to currency exchanges making them worth less. It also gives less incentives to rip the episodes from the streaming services fro those who are audiophiles & care that much.
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Post by Scsigs » Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:57 pm

MR.Mark wrote:Um yeah, but again, you posted a completely different scene to which I'm referring. I' m hearing the fucked line at the end of the episode when Vegeta is sweating as a SSJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAywCsn1nMo

"Something's wrong, with this heat!" "chugachugyerfucked"
Sounds to me like "thwack," not even remotely the other word.
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Post by MR.Mark » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:00 pm

Agree to disagree, to say not even remotely is ludicrous, I have faith in my hearing.

If he's not saying the f bomb, they manipulated his speech to sound pretty damn close to it, whether intentional or not.

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:01 pm

I don't get why they bothered to change his voice. Magetta's dialogue was all gibberish anyway so it's not like he really needed to be dubbed. :eh:

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Post by HeroR » Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:25 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:I don't get why they bothered to change his voice. Magetta's dialogue was all gibberish anyway so it's not like he really needed to be dubbed. :eh:
Very few dubbing companies leave the Japanese voice even if it’s gibberish. Pokémon is one of the few exceptions.
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