The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[DanielSSJ]

SSJ Goku, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo & Cell (Pre) vs 17 & 18

Given that No. 17 thought that Trunks, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan might be too much for No. 18 to handle, I'd say that the group has enough manpower and unique abilities to overwhelm the Androids. There'd be heavy casualties on Team Organic, though.

[TheUltimateNinja]

SSJ Goku, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo & Cell (Pre) vs 17 & 18

Given that No. 17 thought that Trunks, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan might be too much for No. 18 to handle, I'd say that the group has enough manpower and unique abilities to overwhelm the Androids. There'd be heavy casualties on Team Organic, though.

Keep in mind, though, that the difference in power is pretty big.

Cell is the strongest one there and he was a joke to Weighted Piccolo, Piccolo even said he could probably take his Kamehameha. Even after he absorbed Piccolo's arm which reduced Piccolo's power and increased his own, he still didn't stand a chance. 18 is at least as strong as Weighted Piccolo and 17 is stronger still than that, rivaling Piccolo's maximum.

[Gog]

Ultimate Goku V SS4 Goku

[apex_pretador]

Ultimate Goku V SS4 Goku

SS4 goku should win because of the fact that "ultimate" goku should only be stronger than SS3 goku, while SS4 is a lot stronger than SS3.

SSJ Goku, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo & Cell (Pre) vs 17 & 18

Even if we ignore the fact that cell can simply absorb them if he catches them off-guard, he can simply absorb piccolo to cover the strength gap, and then solo on his own.

[Gog]

Ultimate Goku V SS4 Goku

SS4 goku should win because of the fact that "ultimate" goku should only be stronger than SS3 goku, while SS4 is a lot stronger than SS3.

Except for the fact that SS4 unlocks a Saiyan's full power to it's absolute limits, and the Potential Unlock unlocks your potential far, far, far beyond it's limits.

[apex_pretador]

Ultimate Goku V SS4 Goku

SS4 goku should win because of the fact that "ultimate" goku should only be stronger than SS3 goku, while SS4 is a lot stronger than SS3.

Except for the fact that SS4 unlocks a Saiyan's full power to it's absolute limits, and the Potential Unlock unlocks your potential far, far, far beyond it's limits.

SS3 already unlocks your power to absolute limits. SS4 unlocks your powers + ozaroo's powers to the utmost limit.

[Gog]

SS4 goku should win because of the fact that "ultimate" goku should only be stronger than SS3 goku, while SS4 is a lot stronger than SS3.

Except for the fact that SS4 unlocks a Saiyan's full power to it's absolute limits, and the Potential Unlock unlocks your potential far, far, far beyond it's limits.

SS3 already unlocks your power to absolute limits. SS4 unlocks your powers + ozaroo's powers to the utmost limit.

SS3 was retconned to a 4x increase, and besides that Potential unlock, unlocks the power of the user, far, far, far beyond their limits.

Far, far-er than SS4

Anyway

100% Finial Form Freeza(No stamina drain) V Kaio Ken x40 (No strain) Goku

[ryan1227]

SSJ Goku, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo & Cell (Pre) vs 17 & 18

Chapter: 359 (DBZ 165), P2.1, P3.1
Context: talking about the 3 androids being after Goku
Bulma: “Hm~ph, couldn’t you all just gang up on those guys?!”
Trunks: “You’ve got to be kidding. Father, myself, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan all went at them and were helpless.”
Bulma: “Huh, so they’re that incredible…”

17 and 18 stomp the team.

[TheUltimateNinja]

SSJ Goku, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo & Cell (Pre) vs 17 & 18

Chapter: 359 (DBZ 165), P2.1, P3.1
Context: talking about the 3 androids being after Goku
Bulma: “Hm~ph, couldn’t you all just gang up on those guys?!”
Trunks: “You’ve got to be kidding. Father, myself, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan all went at them and were helpless.”
Bulma: “Huh, so they’re that incredible…”

17 and 18 stomp the team.

Goku was out of commission when Trunks said that. Furthermore, they also have Cell who is the strongest one on the team.

[ryan1227]

SSJ Goku, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, Piccolo & Cell (Pre) vs 17 & 18

Chapter: 359 (DBZ 165), P2.1, P3.1
Context: talking about the 3 androids being after Goku
Bulma: “Hm~ph, couldn’t you all just gang up on those guys?!”
Trunks: “You’ve got to be kidding. Father, myself, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan all went at them and were helpless.”
Bulma: “Huh, so they’re that incredible…”

17 and 18 stomp the team.

Goku was out of commission when Trunks said that. Furthermore, they also have Cell who is the strongest one on the team.

The androids are so far above the Super Saiyans that I don't see adding Goku as being of any help. Cell is still a lot below Weighted Kamiccolo, even after draining some power from him. The androids would still almost certainly win this, unless Cell gets lucky and drains 17 with his tail.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Chapter: 359 (DBZ 165), P2.1, P3.1
Context: talking about the 3 androids being after Goku
Bulma: “Hm~ph, couldn’t you all just gang up on those guys?!”
Trunks: “You’ve got to be kidding. Father, myself, Piccolo, and Tenshinhan all went at them and were helpless.”
Bulma: “Huh, so they’re that incredible…”

17 and 18 stomp the team.

Goku was out of commission when Trunks said that. Furthermore, they also have Cell who is the strongest one on the team.

The androids are so far above the Super Saiyans that I don't see adding Goku as being of any help. Cell is still a lot below Weighted Kamiccolo, even after draining some power from him. The androids would still almost certainly win this, unless Cell gets lucky and drains 17 with his tail.

Cell could absorb Piccolo's arm repeatedly until he becomes strong enough to stomp the androids.

[Gog]

Piccolo(Kami adsorbed) V Android 17

[DanielSSJ]

Piccolo(Kami adsorbed) V Android 17

Piccolo seemed to be a smidge stronger, whereas No. 17 had a small advantage in speed, on top of his never-ending stamina. Piccolo definitely win if he brings out a super move like Gekiretsu Kōdan, or otherwise works to finish No. 17 off as soon as possible. However, I'd say that No. 17 has the advantage in this scenario, given his superior stamina and endurance.

[Gog]

ChiChi V Spiderman

[LowRyder2005]

Super Buu (Goku absorbed) vs. Gohan

Buutenks said that not even a regular fusion of Gohan and Goku could defeat him. Some say it was an empty boast, but admitting he's right it'd implicate something like "Super Buu * 2 > Goku * x times", where "x" is a number greater than 2, since fusion is more than the sum of its parts.
In short Super Buu is probably more than a handful of times stronger than Goku, while I'd estimate Gohan at around 60 % to 75% of Buutenks.
Goku's absorption can't overcome that and Super Buu still loses. At least for the original manga.

- Dende, Krillin, Gohan (final Zenkai), Piccolo, Vegeta (final Zenkai), Goku (final Zenkai) vs. Final Form Freeza

Not much they can do, unless we add some PIS on Freeza's part so that he gets Taiyoken'd + Kienzan'd.

- Chaozu, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Krillin, Gohan, Piccolo, Vegeta vs. Mecha Freeza and King Cold

No chance for our team.

- Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Krillin, Gohan, Piccolo, Base Goku (can use Kaioken/SSJ) vs. Android 19 & Android 20

This should easily go in the team's favor. Super Saiyan Goku is more than enough to handle the androids; most likely Piccolo as well.

- SSJ Trunks, SSJ Goku and SSJ Vegeta vs. Android 17 or Android 18
- Tenshinhan, Piccolo, SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Trunks vs. Android 17 or Android 18

Teams lose both times, the three Super Saiyan putting on a braver resistance.

- Tenshinhan, Krillin, SSJ Vegeta and SSJ Trunks vs. Imperfect Cell (Gingertown)

This is interesting. Cell is about as strong as Piccolo, so after Gingertown he should win. Tien's Kikoho could be enough to kill him, though. Team could win with some sacrifices, I'd still give it to Cell 6.5/10.

- Android 16, Android 17, Android 18 and Piccolo vs. Imperfect Cell (Post Humans)

Team should win after a good battle.

- Super Vegeta & Super Trunks vs. Initial Perfect Cell

"Initial" means he can't power-up? If so they may win. Otherwise, Cell.

- Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Krillin, Piccolo, SSJ Trunks, SSJ Vegeta, SSJ Goku and SSJ Gohan vs. Perfect Cell

I think it would be kind of similar to Broly vs. everyone. Team could win with some great teamwork or by amping one of its members with a ki donation (Gohan being the ideal candidate).

- SSJ Goten, SSJ Trunks, Piccolo, SSJ2 Gohan, SSJ2 Vegeta and SSJ2 Goku vs. Fat Boo and Babidi

Fat Buu could win this alone, adding Babidi makes everything even more desperate. Unless the three Super Saiyan 2 self-destruct I don't see anyone getting out of there alive but the evil guys.

- SSJ2 Vegeta, Good Boo and SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Boo

The final battle with no handicap for our heroes. Team should win.

[DanielSSJ]

LightBing got me inspired, what-if most DB battles were team based?

- 21st TB Goku & Krillin vs. 21st Jackie Chun
- Master Roshi, Yamcha, Krillin, Bulma and Lunch vs. The Red Ribbon Army
- 22nd TB Yamcha & Krillin vs. 22nd Tenshinhan
- 22nd TB Yamcha & Krillin vs. Tambourine
- Chaozu, Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Master Roshi vs. Old Piccolo Daimao
- 23rd Chaozu, Yamcha, Krillin, Tenshinhan and Shen vs. 23rd TB Piccolo

- Goku was already pretty close to Jackie Chun in power, holding an advantage over him on some regards. Adding Kuririn here ensures Goku's victory.
- Muten Roshi only really doubted whether or not he would have the stamina to fight off a whole army by himself. If he has folks like Yamcha, Kuririn, and Lunch backing him up, he could probably come out on top.
- Hmmm. Something tells me that Tenshinhan would be too strong and skilled to succumb to Kuririn and Yamcha. If for nothing else than that their Kamehameha wouldn't work against him.
- I suppose it's plausible that the two martial artists would be able to overcome the demon... Unless Tambourine decides to play it safe and fire mouth blasts at them from a distance.
- Baring any Mafuba shenanigans, Piccolo would sweep right through them with zero issues. Tenshinhan's Kikoho might do some damage, but I doubt it would do more than that Genki Dama that Freeza tanked.
- A weakened Piccolo confidently declares that if Goku falls, none of them could stand in his way even if they ganged up on him. Excluding any divine suicides, Piccolo would tear them apart like tissue paper.

[apex_pretador]

LightBing got me inspired, what-if most DB battles were team based?

- 21st TB Goku & Krillin vs. 21st Jackie Chun
- Master Roshi, Yamcha, Krillin, Bulma and Lunch vs. The Red Ribbon Army
- 22nd TB Yamcha & Krillin vs. 22nd Tenshinhan
- 22nd TB Yamcha & Krillin vs. Tambourine
- Chaozu, Yamcha, Tenshinhan and Master Roshi vs. Old Piccolo Daimao
- 23rd Chaozu, Yamcha, Krillin, Tenshinhan and Shen vs. 23rd TB Piccolo

- If Jackie chun stays in his norlam form, he doesn't win but if he goes all out, he can kill both of them with his super kamehameha.

- Master roshi might not hold back on RRA. He would use a mountain-busting kamehameha, and the explosion will kill almost entire army. If someone still remains, the help is there.

- Tenshinhan is capable of moving so fast that the duo can't even see him. In that case, considering his strength advantage, the kamesenin students would be easy pickings.

- Krillin was tired when he fought tambourne. It is possible that he would have put up a fight if he was fresh. There is not enough evidence to predict this fight.

- Unless master roshi uses his moonbuster to wipe out piccolo, in which case the resulting explosion would probably kill him and all others too, the team stands no chance.

- Add roshi too and piccolo could probably take a thousand of them at once, while weakened, Kami included. The team's only hope is Kami's suicide.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Jackie Chun vs 21st Budokai Goku, Kuririn, Yamcha, Giran and Nam.

Jackie can't use his buff form, Goku doesn't have his tail.

[Noah]

- Already happened, the team was losing without spirit bomb. Here, the spirit bomb won't be enough without gohan, kids, krillin and co, mr satan helping them out.

No, it didn't. 3 vs. 1 on Kid Boo? Goku, Vegeta and Boo fighting against him at the same time? That's what I asked.

[DanielSSJ]

Jackie Chun vs 21st Budokai Goku, Kuririn, Yamcha, Giran and Nam.

Jackie can't use his buff form, Goku doesn't have his tail.

I personally don't believe regrowing his tail actually made Goku stronger like everyone else thinks. It's just another appendage for Goku to fight with. As such, if Muten Roshi doesn't have access to his strongest technique and Goku has a bunch of tournament contestants backing him up, he'll win easily.