"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Jinzoningen MULE]

And to think, they're BOTH going to air on my childhood channel, CARTOON NETWORK! Well, Adult Swim, but you get the idea. Honestly, considering how CN has been working in recent years, I was a bit afraid it wasn't going to air there, and that they'd pull a Kai on us, and air it on Nick or something.

I feel like a kid again! Seriously, is it 1997 or something?

No, Toonami just exists again. In all seriousness, I'm so happy that I'll be able to buy DBS Blu-rays soon.

[kinisking]

I hope we get a some more spoilers soon. I can't wait to hear about DragonBalls future

[Neon Z]

If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.

Wasn't the lack of new characters and transformation exactly what hurt Dragonball Kai's merchandising though?

And, really, the only characters who 'benefit' from staying in the gap of 10 years are Trunks and Goten. Goku and Vegeta would continue to be basically the same afterwards. So, I don't see what exactly taking place at this point adds.

There's the old matter of Kuririn and Bulma looking too old in the epilogue, but when we have the Pillaf Gang walking around as kids I don't see why aging is even considered an issue.

[GodKaio-Ken]

If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.

Its not "necessary"

Its just that a lot of people are already put off by the lack of aging and time passing. Also it changes the type of series Dragon Ball is entirely when you take out the passage of time.

Dragon Ball in its basic form is about growth. Its hard to convey that in Super without time.

[ChronoTwigger]

If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.

Its not "necessary"

Its just that a lot of people are already put off by the lack of aging and time passing. Also it changes the type of series Dragon Ball is entirely when you take out the passage of time.

Dragon Ball in its basic form is about growth. Its hard to convey that in Super without time.

Correct, but not entirely. Time passage wasn't a mandatory element, just a nice one, that many fan want to happen again just for a refresh. DB was all about a kid the whole time and no one asked for a time skip.

[TekTheNinja]

If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.

Its not "necessary"

Its just that a lot of people are already put off by the lack of aging and time passing. Also it changes the type of series Dragon Ball is entirely when you take out the passage of time.

Dragon Ball in its basic form is about growth. Its hard to convey that in Super without time.

I think it should happen. Hell, I think Super should have STARTED after EoZ, but I feel like they won't go past it even though I so desperately want them to. Toriyama seems intent on keeping EoZ as the ending to the franchise.

Correct, but not entirely. Time passage wasn't a mandatory element, just a nice one, that many fan want to happen again just for a refresh. DB was all about a kid the whole time and no one asked for a time skip.

It was pretty damn mandatory for Gohan, Z's main character, and to say there wasn't growth with the characters in DB is just a lie.

And to think, they're BOTH going to air on my childhood channel, CARTOON NETWORK! Well, Adult Swim, but you get the idea. Honestly, considering how CN has been working in recent years, I was a bit afraid it wasn't going to air there, and that they'd pull a Kai on us, and air it on Nick or something.

I feel like a kid again! Seriously, is it 1997 or something?

I kinda take a little bit of issue with it being on Toonami actually because they air episodes so god damn infrequently.

[kinisking]

If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.

Its not "necessary"

Its just that a lot of people are already put off by the lack of aging and time passing. Also it changes the type of series Dragon Ball is entirely when you take out the passage of time.

Dragon Ball in its basic form is about growth. Its hard to convey that in Super without time.

Correct, but not entirely. Time passage wasn't a mandatory element, just a nice one, that many fan want to happen again just for a refresh. DB was all about a kid the whole time and no one asked for a time skip.

Db hadn't set a precedent yet. It was something people didn't know they wanted. DB and DBZ has already set a precedent for this so people want it now that they know how beneficial it can be. Honestly, I don't really care if a timeskip will happen or not. I do think one will happen though.

[TekTheNinja]

Its not "necessary"

Its just that a lot of people are already put off by the lack of aging and time passing. Also it changes the type of series Dragon Ball is entirely when you take out the passage of time.

Dragon Ball in its basic form is about growth. Its hard to convey that in Super without time.

Correct, but not entirely. Time passage wasn't a mandatory element, just a nice one, that many fan want to happen again just for a refresh. DB was all about a kid the whole time and no one asked for a time skip.

Db hadn't set a precedent yet. It was something people didn't know they wanted. DB and DBZ has already set a precedent for this so people want it now that they know how beneficial it can be. Honestly, I don't really care if a timeskip will happen or not. I do think one will happen though.

But DB DID have growth, it just wasn't physical growth for the most part. One problem in Super is that characters can't really develop at all because they have to be the same as they were in EoZ.

[ChronoTwigger]

If Ash Ketchum is still 10 years old, then I fail to see why it is necessary for DBS to surpass EoZ to sell more merch.
In fact, I feel that the Buu arc characters are more iconic and it will be a better business move to stay in the timeframe between Buu and EoZ.

Its not "necessary"

Its just that a lot of people are already put off by the lack of aging and time passing. Also it changes the type of series Dragon Ball is entirely when you take out the passage of time.

Dragon Ball in its basic form is about growth. Its hard to convey that in Super without time.

I think it should happen. Hell, I think Super should have STARTED after EoZ, but I feel like they won't go past it even though I so desperately want them to. Toriyama seems intent on keeping EoZ as the ending to the franchise.

Correct, but not entirely. Time passage wasn't a mandatory element, just a nice one, that many fan want to happen again just for a refresh. DB was all about a kid the whole time and no one asked for a time skip.

It was pretty damn mandatory for Gohan, Z's main character, and to say there wasn't growth with the characters in DB is just a lie.

What I'm trying to say is that having Goku growing up the first time was well received by fan. Enough for the series to propose a time skip each arc. But that's not a mandatory element for the story or franchise progress, and the whole thing could have stopped after Cell defeat or even before, focusing on strict timeframes as Super did. From a technical point, another series could focus in the timeframe from Cell defeat to Buu, if not by having the risk of going overboard with powerups that doersn't fit. Growing up is nice, but not strictly necessary.

[Nekis13]

Very exciting news for the dub! Sadly, we won't be reaching new content until around June/July.

Now if only we had info of the LatAm dub... still waiting Toei...

I'm surprised they are airing Buu Kai along with Super though, but I guess that's for the better.

[Noah]

I liked the new ending song, never thought I would despise an ending more than Yoka Yoka Dance but that Chahan Music is worse

So much BETTER than the last few endings. Light Pink is still my favorite ending but this one is great too. I really hope Yamamuro (?) will do this song justice.

Funny, that I started to enjoy more this ending because of Black

[dbs fanboy]

I'm so happy that I'll be able to buy DBS Blu-rays soon.

Even the RoF ones?

[kinisking]

Correct, but not entirely. Time passage wasn't a mandatory element, just a nice one, that many fan want to happen again just for a refresh. DB was all about a kid the whole time and no one asked for a time skip.

Db hadn't set a precedent yet. It was something people didn't know they wanted. DB and DBZ has already set a precedent for this so people want it now that they know how beneficial it can be. Honestly, I don't really care if a timeskip will happen or not. I do think one will happen though.

But DB DID have growth, it just wasn't physical growth for the most part. One problem in Super is that characters can't really develop at all because they have to be the same as they were in EoZ.

That's not really true. We barely saw anyone's personality in EOZ.

[nato25]

Guys it says season 1 will be 26 episodes, however those first two story arcs comprise of 27 episodes according to wikipedia. Anyone else notice this or am I missing something.

[Boo Machine]

Guys it says season 1 will be 26 episodes, however those first two story arcs comprise of 27 episodes according to wikipedia. Anyone else notice this or am I missing something.

I think that's just the way funimation does things. A lot of their "seasons" for long shows like this are 26 episodes long. At least that's what I've gathered from the DVD's I have. A lot of those seasons end in really weird places as well.

[nato25]

But the death of Freeza is episode 27 lol that would certainly be weird. I'm not saying they wont be ready to go straight into the 'next season' to end it properly but that's very strange.

[Psykomatik]

It's normal. When FUNimation / Kazé / AB buy a season, they got 26 episodes delivered.
The next batch of 26 episodes will come when they will get another season for another TV deal.

[nato25]

It's normal. When FUNimation / Kazé / AB buy a season, they got 26 episodes delivered.
The next batch of 26 episodes will come when they will get another season for another TV deal.

Ahh ok, fair enough.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I'm so happy that I'll be able to buy DBS Blu-rays soon.

Even the RoF ones?

I'll be skipping those, just like I did with Kai. No need to own 2 of the exact same thing, especially so when the version that I don't own is irredeemably worse.

[Sodhi]

Anyone know when at Jump Festa they're going to announce the teaser info for the next arc? Dragon Ball doesn't have a stage this year.

I think db does have a stage this year. Looks like it will be named Dragon ball room booth.
http://www.jumpfesta.com/shueisha/dragonball/